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Jaybird4u · 02-14-2016, 04:42 PM

Midgard.....just yesterday I brought home my car after having the KB 2.8 liquid cooled installed. I haven't really been able to test it out yet seeing as how it's 10* outside. My OEM strut bar will no longer fit. It actually has enough clearance over the blower but not enough clearance over the cold air tube. Do you happen to know if the ZL1 strut would work or any other struts I can try?

cc-rider · 02-14-2016, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaybird4u

Midgard.....just yesterday I brought home my car after having the KB 2.8 liquid cooled installed. I haven't really been able to test it out yet seeing as how it's 10* outside. My OEM strut bar will no longer fit. It actually has enough clearance over the blower but not enough clearance over the cold air tube. Do you happen to know if the ZL1 strut would work or any other struts I can try?

Congrats Jaybird4u. I've got a KB 2.8 as well on my LS3. I put it on last summer. You're going to love it. It's a great blower. I'm currently adding headers and injectors to it as a winter project.

Did you get a dyno? Any numbers or charts you can share?

Jaybird4u · 02-14-2016, 06:10 PM

Thanks and yes I had a Dyno and custom tune. They set it up for a 8lb boost and the rwhp is 525 and torque is 528. I was actually thinking that number would be a little higher but my car is an automatic so that may be why it's a little lower then I thought it would be.

Jaybird4u · 02-14-2016, 06:12 PM

The shop is heated but the temps on the Dyno day were 7* and my shop said if the temps were in the mid 60's to 70's that number would be higher.

cc-rider · 02-14-2016, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaybird4u

The shop is heated but the temps on the Dyno day were 7* and my shop said if the temps were in the mid 60's to 70's that number would be higher.

That's pretty decent number for an automatic. I have a LS3 manual and stock everything else. I put down 525 hp and 502 TQ. So I think that your numbers with headers are right in line and pretty good. Your TQ number is really stout for an auto.

I've never heard that moderate 60 degree temps would deliver more power than really cold temps like 7 degrees. But I suppose the air might get so cold and dense that it has to way over fuel???

Jaybird4u · 02-14-2016, 06:41 PM

Yes, he did say the dense air affects the results. Thanks for making me feel better about the overall results, Haha. How much hp do you anticipate gaining with the knew heads?

cc-rider · 02-14-2016, 06:49 PM

Hoping headers will add another 40 hp. I think with forced induction they can achieve that much...but that may be wishful thinking. NA they typically add 25ish.

So I guess somewhere in the 550-575 range. Maybe on the higher end of that range because I am adding some new injectors and moving to a custom tune. The 525 I laid down was on the stock KB tune.

Jaybird4u · 02-14-2016, 08:25 PM

So would that be the next step for me if I want more power in a year or so? Heads and cam?

cc-rider · 02-14-2016, 08:41 PM

Cam for sure. Cams can really bump up the power. I think they can get you 50-90 hp in supercharged applications assuming that you also drop the pulley size to get the boost back to 8 psi. Here's a thread I started a while ago asking the exact same question:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408984

Heads will probably only get you another 30 or so. Maybe some more since you've got boost.

Keep in mind your fuel system. Not sure what you have now. But as you add more power, you might surpass your fuel system.

It only takes more money!!!

Jaybird4u · 02-14-2016, 08:54 PM

Exactly, more money. Can't look at it as an investment. Definitely a Hobie.

Jaybird4u · 02-14-2016, 09:00 PM

Do you know of a strut bar that will fit our setup.

cc-rider · 02-14-2016, 09:29 PM

No. Sorry. I've never looked into strut bars.

jamesr · 02-14-2016, 09:35 PM

hey cc rider are still 6 rib if so when you start adding header and cam and still are 6 rib i have pulleys all the way down to 3 in let me know if your interest

midgard · 02-16-2016, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cc-rider

What is that bolted onto the top/front of your blower? Covering the pulley and extending out to the sides. Some sort of protector or shroud???

Yes I think you are talking about the guard against a busting belt...used to have that problem before. The belt is so close to the hood.

02-14-2016, 04:42 PM	#407
Jaybird4u Drives: 2014 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: WV Posts: 150	Midgard.....just yesterday I brought home my car after having the KB 2.8 liquid cooled installed. I haven't really been able to test it out yet seeing as how it's 10* outside. My OEM strut bar will no longer fit. It actually has enough clearance over the blower but not enough clearance over the cold air tube. Do you happen to know if the ZL1 strut would work or any other struts I can try? __________________ Color Red Rock, Kooks LT Headers with High FLow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder Axel back, Vmax ported TB, Kenne Bell 2.8 Liquid cooled supercharger, 560 RWHP, Stillen splitter, Vitesse throttle controller, BMR sway bars, BMR 1.2" front springs and 1.0" rear springs, BMR upgraded front end links, 35% tint, Diode Dynamics interior and exterior lighting, Carbon fiber Bowties, Hood spears.

02-14-2016, 06:10 PM	#409
Jaybird4u Drives: 2014 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: WV Posts: 150	Thanks and yes I had a Dyno and custom tune. They set it up for a 8lb boost and the rwhp is 525 and torque is 528. I was actually thinking that number would be a little higher but my car is an automatic so that may be why it's a little lower then I thought it would be. __________________ Color Red Rock, Kooks LT Headers with High FLow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder Axel back, Vmax ported TB, Kenne Bell 2.8 Liquid cooled supercharger, 560 RWHP, Stillen splitter, Vitesse throttle controller, BMR sway bars, BMR 1.2" front springs and 1.0" rear springs, BMR upgraded front end links, 35% tint, Diode Dynamics interior and exterior lighting, Carbon fiber Bowties, Hood spears.

02-14-2016, 06:12 PM	#410
Jaybird4u Drives: 2014 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: WV Posts: 150	The shop is heated but the temps on the Dyno day were 7* and my shop said if the temps were in the mid 60's to 70's that number would be higher. __________________ Color Red Rock, Kooks LT Headers with High FLow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder Axel back, Vmax ported TB, Kenne Bell 2.8 Liquid cooled supercharger, 560 RWHP, Stillen splitter, Vitesse throttle controller, BMR sway bars, BMR 1.2" front springs and 1.0" rear springs, BMR upgraded front end links, 35% tint, Diode Dynamics interior and exterior lighting, Carbon fiber Bowties, Hood spears.

02-14-2016, 06:41 PM	#412
Jaybird4u Drives: 2014 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: WV Posts: 150	Yes, he did say the dense air affects the results. Thanks for making me feel better about the overall results, Haha. How much hp do you anticipate gaining with the knew heads? __________________ Color Red Rock, Kooks LT Headers with High FLow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder Axel back, Vmax ported TB, Kenne Bell 2.8 Liquid cooled supercharger, 560 RWHP, Stillen splitter, Vitesse throttle controller, BMR sway bars, BMR 1.2" front springs and 1.0" rear springs, BMR upgraded front end links, 35% tint, Diode Dynamics interior and exterior lighting, Carbon fiber Bowties, Hood spears.

02-14-2016, 08:25 PM	#414
Jaybird4u Drives: 2014 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: WV Posts: 150	So would that be the next step for me if I want more power in a year or so? Heads and cam? __________________ Color Red Rock, Kooks LT Headers with High FLow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder Axel back, Vmax ported TB, Kenne Bell 2.8 Liquid cooled supercharger, 560 RWHP, Stillen splitter, Vitesse throttle controller, BMR sway bars, BMR 1.2" front springs and 1.0" rear springs, BMR upgraded front end links, 35% tint, Diode Dynamics interior and exterior lighting, Carbon fiber Bowties, Hood spears.

02-14-2016, 06:49 PM	#413
cc-rider Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,179	Hoping headers will add another 40 hp. I think with forced induction they can achieve that much...but that may be wishful thinking. NA they typically add 25ish. So I guess somewhere in the 550-575 range. Maybe on the higher end of that range because I am adding some new injectors and moving to a custom tune. The 525 I laid down was on the stock KB tune.

02-14-2016, 08:41 PM	#415
cc-rider Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,179	Cam for sure. Cams can really bump up the power. I think they can get you 50-90 hp in supercharged applications assuming that you also drop the pulley size to get the boost back to 8 psi. Here's a thread I started a while ago asking the exact same question: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=408984 Heads will probably only get you another 30 or so. Maybe some more since you've got boost. Keep in mind your fuel system. Not sure what you have now. But as you add more power, you might surpass your fuel system. It only takes more money!!!

02-14-2016, 08:54 PM	#416
Jaybird4u Drives: 2014 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: WV Posts: 150	Exactly, more money. Can't look at it as an investment. Definitely a Hobie. __________________ Color Red Rock, Kooks LT Headers with High FLow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder Axel back, Vmax ported TB, Kenne Bell 2.8 Liquid cooled supercharger, 560 RWHP, Stillen splitter, Vitesse throttle controller, BMR sway bars, BMR 1.2" front springs and 1.0" rear springs, BMR upgraded front end links, 35% tint, Diode Dynamics interior and exterior lighting, Carbon fiber Bowties, Hood spears.

02-14-2016, 09:00 PM	#417
Jaybird4u Drives: 2014 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: WV Posts: 150	Do you know of a strut bar that will fit our setup. __________________ Color Red Rock, Kooks LT Headers with High FLow cats, Flowmaster American Thunder Axel back, Vmax ported TB, Kenne Bell 2.8 Liquid cooled supercharger, 560 RWHP, Stillen splitter, Vitesse throttle controller, BMR sway bars, BMR 1.2" front springs and 1.0" rear springs, BMR upgraded front end links, 35% tint, Diode Dynamics interior and exterior lighting, Carbon fiber Bowties, Hood spears.

02-14-2016, 09:29 PM	#418
cc-rider Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,179	No. Sorry. I've never looked into strut bars.

02-14-2016, 09:35 PM	#419
jamesr Drives: 2012 Camaro ss Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Topeka,Kansas Posts: 147 View My Garage	hey cc rider are still 6 rib if so when you start adding header and cam and still are 6 rib i have pulleys all the way down to 3 in let me know if your interest __________________

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