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Old 07-25-2010, 05:30 PM   #519
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i will never understand how the Z28 can be higher rate in performance standards over the SS!!

as i remember in the 90's the SS was more powerful and more expansive than the Z28
Well, up until the late 90s and GM took it in-house, those SSs were SLP-modified cars.
In the first-generation, the two namplates were equal-but-different depending who you talk to...one was a handler, one was a drag racer.

For the rest of the Camaro's history, Z28 was always on top. And it's a car-specific model...like "Z06"...SS is brand-specific.


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Who else thinks we will see the production Z-28 unveiled at the 2011 Detroit auto show?
I would like to. A Convertible at the end of this year, and a Z, at NAIAS?
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Old 07-25-2010, 05:38 PM   #520
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if you guys are buying these for value.... good luck. Everyone knows a modded car sales for less than a stock car. Saying a Z28 will have better value than a SS yeh I would think so but we are talking cars here.... Values in cars suck as we know it and will only get worse look at Z06's for instance; they are so cheap compared to new model even with low miles. The same ole saying goes once its off the lot its worth less like that so why pay more for a z28 when you can have a conversion with more power and the same look. Now if your a "I have a Z28 and the SS is inferior no matter how fast or better it looks" then I understand there is no swaying you. If you want a warranty on a S/C from factory then I understand but warrantlys suck anyway... I mean we have dealers that wont even change axles or output shafts on stock hp cars without a S/C because they say "you were racing" so do you think that warranty work on a S/C factory car will be easy lol good luck with that. Either way this will be a great release but they will be all over the place much like the 4th gens are now.... why because camaros ROCK!
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Old 07-25-2010, 05:47 PM   #521
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Who else thinks we will see the production Z-28 unveiled at the 2011 Detroit auto show?
Oh, Oh, I do, I do!!!
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:42 PM   #522
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The ol' saying "A picture is worth a thousand words".........

Well the CAMARO5 family has surpassed that saying by MILLIONS of words.

This has been one of the most entertaining threads to read ever
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:52 PM   #523
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yum yum yum yum yuummm haha
Im loving this, the front fascia intrigues the hell out of me, i like it a lot, i was really really hoping GM wouldnt super charge the Z but eh, we cant always get what we want, plus at least its a V8 and at least its supercharged and not turbocharged, so i can always give myself ultimatums to keep myself happy xD
This babe is beautiful, im wondering what, if anything they're gonna do to the interior, this interior doesnt look changed much.
And whats the arguement about buying for value? Come on people, we all know how the car market works, you buy a car, it goes down in value, stays for 10 years, and starts rising again...at least...the American muscle car market that is xD

This Camaro is going to own the road when it hits the market, if people thought the SS was mean look out, this is gonna change the game again >=}
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:54 PM   #524
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I can't wait to see where this leads. I may be tradin the ss if all the variables are what I'm lookin for.
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:13 PM   #525
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I just noticed a possible subtle difference in body panels. in a few of the photos, the camaro logo on the drivers side appears to start right behind the end of the flare from the wheel well. On my ss, the sheetmetal nxt to the logo is smooth, no prononced flare at all. could this be an entirely different panel from the current camaro; one that fits with the new front end? These logos are put in the exact same spot from the factory, so I doubt mine is just lower and away from the location of the one n the pics.
Also, the exhaust cutout is oval, and not round. Prolly just to accomodate the twin pipes. Nice to see the giant trashcan mufflers are gone.
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:30 PM   #526
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...while it's not a confirmation of any production plan, it gets the adrenaline pumping...
It has been confirmed.

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Old 07-25-2010, 07:40 PM   #527
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So let the debate begin....when to stop the mods....looks like now and save up some cash!
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:49 PM   #528
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Yes you can, it's the 45th anniversary of the date of the first Camaro.. you don't have to be in full production for all those years, remember there was no 83 model Corvette...but 2003 was the Corvettes 50th anniversary...
EXACTLY! and lets also not forget Ford celebrating Mustang anniversaries and there was a time that all you could get was a Mustang II, not the Mustang... so its not the number of years produced, its the anniversary of the car's existence

and I'm looking forward to a 2012 45th Anniversary Z28
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:43 PM   #529
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Well I didn't take the time to read 22 pages lol so if this is something already posted forgive the repeat. I pulled one of the posted images into photoshop and did some image processing on it and the badge on the side of the car that's taped over looks like it says Z/SC in the front with the Z being small and the SC being bigger. After that it looks like a 3 or 4 letter word ending in O but it almost looks like 440. I put red lines on one of the images to show the Z/SC.

This is an odd test mule. No backup sensors but based on wheels and brakes looks definitely like a road race car like the original Z/28's were. The checkered tape on the bottom indicates to me they have ground effects planned which are not on this car.

There has to be a spoiler planned. Interesting mule.
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:49 PM   #530
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Well I didn't take the time to read 22 pages lol so if this is something already posted forgive the repeat. I pulled one of the posted images into photoshop and did some image processing on it and the badge on the side of the car that's taped over looks like it says Z/SC in the front with the Z being small and the SC being bigger. After that it looks like a 3 or 4 letter word ending in O but it almost looks like 440. I put red lines on one of the images to show the Z/SC.

This is an odd test mule. No backup sensors but based on wheels and brakes looks definitely like a road race car like the original Z/28's were. The checkered tape on the bottom indicates to me they have ground effects planned which are not on this car.

There has to be a spoiler planned. Interesting mule.
if you are close to right about the image it would make more sense for it to say Z/28 not Z/SC kinda close in what you poster thou.
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:58 PM   #531
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This is an odd test mule. No backup sensors but based on wheels and brakes looks definitely like a road race car like the original Z/28's were. The checkered tape on the bottom indicates to me they have ground effects planned which are not on this car.
I wouldn't take ANY design hints from this car. This vehicle clearly started its life as an LS, or 1LT model Camaro. There's no spoiler, and the interior features a rubberized shift knob. That, and they've hacked up the diffuser to fit the quad tips, I think you're right about the ground effects, too.

The wheels aren't factory, the brakes don't match, the interior has panels taped to the carpet, and there are a set of "not the real headlights" in the front fascia intakes....

Overall, this is nothing more than an engineering mule, Z28 or no. They'll probably keep the true design components in the basement, or the wind tunnel....which means we'll never TRULY know what the Z28 will look like until they show us.

...yay.....
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did someone say wind tunnel? off to the bat cave I go. . .!
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