Update on Mod that improved mpg's drastically!

[Can't_C_Me]

Also check to see if you have the faulty MAF GM put in some of the Camaro's. It may help getting a accurate reading overall using any method to determine this. Here is the thread on this. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133383

[Doc]

Take it to a dyno shop and have them check what's happening inside the fuel system. If it's running lean you want to know about it now before damage is done. If it's not, then for some odd reason your setup is accomplishing something no one else has figured out yet. The results you're reporting are certainly interesting enough to check out and verify. If it's legit, then not only would every V6 owner want this mod but Chevy themselves would be interested in studying what's happening.

[myold88]

Originally Posted by White-2-SS

I can tell you this. If it was that easy K&N and every other manufacture of after market intakes would market the hell out of that. Just saying...

As I stated on the prior thread if it was this easy G.M. engineers would have built them this way. Imagine the advertising potential plus the additional Camaros sold with these MPG figures.
Makes no sense IMO.

[RanDMC]

Until you put this thing on a stand every comment on here will be pure speculation. I do have to say it looks sweet, but as others have said it really doesn't make much sense. You are sucking in warm air from the engine compartment and seem to be getting better performance...?

[Russell James]

It's all in your head.

You do something that you think will improve your mpgs and then when you are retesting your mind is concentrated on the improved mpgs - so without realizing it probably driving a bit easier.

Cars are so sensitive to speed and how heavy the foot is - affecting mpgs. Pretty easy to skew the results by driving just a hair easier after the mod.

You see this all the time with different brands of oils. Someone puts in a designer oil, and magically they are getting great mpgs - BS.


For this situation to be true, the one filter would have to be so restrictive that it was negatively impacting mpgs, then adding the second one just brought it back to the baseline of the stock airflow. More likely though just inacurate testing.

[VTXrider]

Originally Posted by camaroc5

Can you elaborate on this? I don't want to hurt anything. From what I understand; the v6 flow rates are absolutely horrible in and out. Since I wasn't sure about this I asked numerous people ad they said the car won't take in more air than it wants regardless of number of filters even ram air. They mentioned it might just breath easier.

After driving on the highway for a while pull over and immediately shut off the engine (really you should put it in neutral at speed, shut off, and coast to a stop but to to be safe just drive off at a rest stop).

Pull out a spark plug (or all of them) and check the color of the tip, if it's white you are running too lean. The color should be a honey like tan color.

[blizzpat]

You also have to test it more than 15 miles lol...

I remember resetting my SS once and driving like 10 miles really calmly and my mpg was like 37......

[2010SLVRBULIT]

first thought would be hot engine air being sucked in..but since your driving habits aren't too intense? but I'd be concerned about premature engine wear. Do you notice higher RPMs, or burning more oil? Cool idea if no harm done.

[UCABlackChevy]

Originally Posted by rolnslo

Only while the ECM has the engine running in an open loop condition, which usually only occurs during deceleration or high RPM acceleration with the V6. The rest of the time, it is running in a closed loop mode and making adjustments based on the MAF readings.

Wait, what? The O2 sensors make adjustments while in closed loop. In open loop the amount of fuel is pre-determined based on a chart (RPM vs MAP). The car should only be in open loop (unless the 02's are bad a throwing a code) for a few minutes after a cold start and while in PE (WOT).

[Angelsilhouette]

Originally Posted by Doc

Take it to a dyno shop and have them check what's happening inside the fuel system. If it's running lean you want to know about it now before damage is done. If it's not, then for some odd reason your setup is accomplishing something no one else has figured out yet. The results you're reporting are certainly interesting enough to check out and verify. If it's legit, then not only would every V6 owner want this mod but Chevy themselves would be interested in studying what's happening.

What he said. Dooo eeet!

[CamaroC-17]

So who can tell me what I can make a heat shield/box out of? Something that is easy to get my hands on.

[dmginc]

just an FYI to some of you...twin cone air intakes have been done before for the Trans Am
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/VNT-15958C3/

not sure how well this works, but to those who were saying if this were any good some company would make it well...someone does

[DarkneSS]

Originally Posted by camaroc5

So who can tell me what I can make a heat shield/box out of? Something that is easy to get my hands on.

Im working on it, Ill let you know when I figure it out lol. I think plastic should do just fine, the hard part is shape and fitment.

[CamaroC-17]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Im working on it, Ill let you know when I figure it out lol. I think plastic should do just fine, the hard part is shape and fitment.

Ha I was just looknig at your threads trying to find yours! but your videos are removed.