Help me silence my friend's claims of Ford Mustang superiority!

[wbdinger]

Duct tape will shut him up lmao

[Nessal]

Originally Posted by va6291

Had a 2011 Mustang (base) and found out the TRANS was made in CHINA. People were having some major issues with them. Didnt like the seats,headrest so unloaded it and bought the Camaro. Love the Camaro (base) 6spd. DID NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT THE TRANS WAS MADE IN CHINA. I try like hell to NOT buy anything from CHINA ........

Except that every plastic piece in the interior is made there most likely.

[michschi]

Originally Posted by Overflow

Camaro








Mustang




I think the Camaro looks so much better.

I think the front of mine looks pretty good!



Also the 11+ Mustang you posted was a base base car.


A cali special looks much more aggressive

[michschi]

[michschi]

When it comes down it it. It is all preference! Simple as that!

[oldfriend]

Originally Posted by Jason7

Honestly he sounds like a jealous itchbay more than a buddy. Punch him in the stomach and never talk to him again...

Why punch him in the stomach, when you can get it done at once by doing that strait to the chin and get over with ?

Originally Posted by Jason7

The whole gov. Assistance thing doesn't mean Shit to me nor does it affect me in any way. With that in mind I see it as another ignorant statement which has no bearing on either cars current performance or handling...

Well , if wasn't for that $ [which GM is paying back i was told] the G5 probably would not be around !

Originally Posted by Overflow

Camaro








Mustang




I think the Camaro looks so much better.

GEE , you think , or should you have said after the photos ....and i rest my case !!!

[v6sonoma]

Tell him to go buy his own then.

[Camarowguy]

Why have I seen so many times on here that the camaro is faster. It's not. When you compare it to the 2011 mustang it's not. And guess what? Just a couple minor bolt one and it's in the 11's. Face it, right now it's faster. Eventually the tables will turn again, but for now ford has an Awsome engine. And it's only 5.0 liters vs. Our 6.2 liters. I'm my opinion, the camaro is a nicer, better looking car. That's why I chose it. O and the fact that everyone and their brother has a mustang plus it's ugly as shit. Op, choose what you want...because you Want it. Not because the mustang is slightly faster. If it were me, I'd choose they same way I did. Give me a mustang and I'll sell it a buy a camaro. That's how I feel.

[ffrcobra_65]

Open your mind up a bit and see that your friend does have a valid points. Appearance is subjective though. If he has the 2011 5.0, you better know how to drive.

[My 5th]

A co-worker's daughter just bought a new 2010 Mustang GT, and brought it by for a look-see. I was impressed by it. The interior was much nicer than I expected and the features were killer. Hers had the glass top (not a sunroof) with the interior mesh screen and a sound system with big sub-woofers in the trunk--STANDARD. The robin-egg blue color was not so hot IMHO, and the 18" wheels don't compare to our 20's. She said the dealer sold it to her for less than she paid for her 2000 Mustang--no price was actually mentioned, but apparently some Ford dealers are almost giving their remaining 2010's away so they can get an allocation of the 2011's. If I could have gotten a GT500 for within a couple of thou of what I paid for my SS I would have had a serious decision problem...

[VaderSS]

I like them both, but chose the Camaro....mostly due to the LS3 and styling. I think Chevy created a terrific blend of modern and late 60's muscle.

If you are seeking facts, here's an article I ran across:

Vehicle Comparison: The 2011 Chevrolet Camaro SS vs. the Ford Mustang GT
Technical analysis reveals clear advantages for one.

Man had not yet walked on the moon when car magazines published the first comparisons between the Camaro and Mustang. Since the first showdowns of these models in the fall of 1966, car magazines have sold many issues with “Camaro vs. Mustang” cover lines. And more often than not, the Camaro has come out the winner. An in-depth look at these cars reveals key areas of performance and safety where the 2011 Camaro SS excels by a wide margin.

In 2011, drivers expect more than just straight-line performance from even muscle cars. Still, it’s worth noting that when Car and Driver matched the 2011 Camaro SS six-speed stick shift against the 2011 Mustang GT six-speed stick shift, the Camaro blasted through the quarter-mile in 13 seconds flat at 111 mph. The Mustang came up a bit short at 13.2 seconds at 109 mph. That equates to about two car lengths in a race.

When you look at the performance equipment each of these cars offers, you’ll find a decided advantage in the Camaro SS, which has an MSRP of $31,070 for the standard SS1 model. The 2012 Mustang GT begins at an MSRP of $29,310, but a disparity in braking technology favoring the Camaro SS quickly closes that gap. All Camaro SS models come standard with Brembo high-performance brand four-wheel disc brakes and 20-inch alloy wheels. The Mustang GT comes standard with 18-inch alloy wheels; upgrading to Brembo brakes and 19-inch wheels requires adding an option package for $1,695. However, odd but true, the package puts genuine Brembo brakes only on the Mustang GT’s front wheels.

Each of these cars arrives at its performance peak differently. Under the long Camaro hood beats the latest generation Chevy small block V8, in this case, essentially the same 6.2-liter engine used by the Corvette. The Camaro SS with a six-speed manual shift pounds out 426 hp at 5,900 rpm and 420 lb/ft of peak torque at 4,600 rpm. Those figures beat the Mustang GT’s smaller-displacement 5.0-liter V8, which offers 412 hp and 390 lb/ft of torque. Both cars offer an optional six-speed automatic transmission.

If you know your muscle car engines, you can tell from those figures that the Camaro SS is going to provide a more classic muscle car feel from its bigger-engine/higher torque personality. Edmunds Inside Line went a step further, measuring these cars’ ability to do a burnout; the Camaro SS laid down an astounding 186 feet of rubber, continuing right through second gear. The Mustang could muster just 72 feet. Though hardly a valid performance test, it does provide a fun demonstration of the superior low-end power of the Camaro.

On a more serious note, there is an area of chassis technology where the Mustang trails the Camaro in an undisputable way: All Camaro models, including the SS versions, ride on four-wheel independent suspensions while the Mustang remains among the last rear-wheel drive cars built with a solid rear axle. That’s a bit of muscle car nostalgia that drivers of other modern sports coupes would never accept. Drive a Camaro SS over a bumpy road, and that independent rear helps keep the big rear tires planted; a car with a solid axle car tends to “hop” a bit over bumps.

Style is a matter of preference, of course, but one cannot deny that the new Camaro knocked peoples’ socks off from the time it appeared as a concept car in 2006. The 2011 Camaro SS emotionally evokes the 1969 Camaro, but does not copy it.
Both of these muscle coupes offer safety that’s light-years better than their 1960s forbears. Both are equipped with traction control and electronic stability control, for example. In terms of occupant protection, the Camaro comes standard with six standard airbags including side-curtain airbags for front and rear occupants. The Mustang, however, does not offer side-curtain airbags, which seems like a glaring omission in 2011.

On the fun side of the ledger, you can equip the Camaro SS with a power tilt and slide sunroof, but not the Mustang GT. When it comes to connectivity, the Camaro SS comes standard with OnStar® including a subscription to Directions and Connections with Automatic Crash Response, Turn-by-Turn Navigation and other services for six months. The Mustang offers Ford’s SYNC® system, but you have to step up to the costlier GT Premium model to get it, and SYNC does not provide the full telematics capability that OnStar does.

Both the Camaro SS and Mustang GT have their share of partisan supporters who might not consider the other car. However, for those who analyze performance, safety and value, the 2011 Camaro SS clearly leads its esteemed competitor. Come in and test-drive this modern legend soon.

[darkrider01]

Originally Posted by TSSUNAMI

a bunch of points where TSSUNAMI basically read my mind

Seriously TSSUNAMI, we were cut from the same cloth. Excellent points, even if they weren't 100% accurate

[mothraisnotapokemon]

In the movies:
Bumblebee vs Barricade

case won

[mothraisnotapokemon]

Movies:Bumblebee vs Barricade

Car Magazines: in order to compete against stock model Dodges and Chevy the ford gotta sup up.