Potential Huge Problem.... 2010 Camaro Nose Cracks (UPDATE: NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL!)

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by KJS

Hey ever hear of a strong headwind buddy boy!
Oh ok you're now the guy whose going to decide how fast I can go?
Hey didn't know you were installing speed limiters on our cars.
55 the max?
So how long ago did you order?

ever heard of the law and there is a limiter on the camaro. just be glad that it's set for the tires and not the speed limit. wait maybe we can get our elected officials to change it where all manufacturers put the max speed in for 70 mph seeing how that's the fastest most people in american can legally go. no one needs to go any faster. hell they don't even need to go that so why not 55. . .that solves the whole problem and you'll be getting better gas mileage too. yess I'm going to write to my elected official now and suggest this! thanks.

to answer your last question just because you've ordered or haven't doesn't mean you haven't been waiting for it longer or not. guess life doesn't happen that makes you prioritize other things ahead of a car. . .wait that might be what's wrong with america today. . .they buy what they can't afford just because they can get the credit for it. . .yess. . .hmmm guess you're right I haven't wanted it bad enough or long enough. I'm sorry. please forgive me. all mighty one.

[fireresq157]

Originally Posted by Indpowr

Wow, the car should have been tested and sustained at the max speed for a short time to confirm how the car will hold up.

Most of the public will not hit those speeds but what it does show is a weak spot that over time and continued resistance and body flex will lead too.

I am very sorry about your car and I hope GM takes care of it. Considering you were no using the car as "normal" conditions I would be surprised if they do something about it.

It its governed up to 155 it should be able to hold 155 sustained without damage. Your right this just greatly spead up what may happen after a couple of years driving 80 with some strong occasional gust against the car.

[Nine Ball]

Originally Posted by 3 SS's

Yep...it'll be on my mind until the issue's addressed, assuming my cars built before it is..... but why did you have to do it to an IOM car??

Because I hate orange. BTW, here is a pic of some of my cars:





Nah, I'm an orange junkie. I didn't do this damage, the shop guys did earlier in the week.

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by Ghost Rider

If the facia can crack after one high speed run, how will it hold up over time at normal highway speeds? What will happen when you drive into a stong head wind? What will happen after one year? Three? Five?

This is a legitimate issue, not whining.

I am officially worried too. It will be interesting to hear how gm will fix this issue and how many production bumpers already pre built have this issue. I do plan on going fast on a track and now this puts a halt on that.

[mmbarberoilman]

Sounds like bullshit to me. GM has a big boo boo and it better be fixed. The other side of the coin is where does it say you can NOT drive at the limit for warrenty to exist to fix this problem. How much headwind at 75 miles an hour and for how long or how many times will this problem surface on cars that never do over 120??? I guess those comments of mine about who needs a 155 or 170 car are justified. I would rather better gears and only capable of 130 or 120. Going through the 1/4 in 3 gears is a joke for a 6 speed trans. We do not have an autobahn in this country anyways. To each his own again. I want quick and great looks, not Nascar capable.

[espo19047]

Originally Posted by Nine Ball

How do you know which speed it failed at? It could have cracked at 125 mph. Just because they went up to 155, that doesn't mean that 155 caused it. Telling Camaro owners to do the speed limit is a lot like telling a room full of straight men to kiss boys.

OK if we go with "how do you know" then I will ask how do you know how it really happened? How do you know the car did not hit something? How do you know if it is an isolated case? I am going to wait and see how things play out.

[Nine Ball]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

ever heard of the law and there is a limiter on the camaro. just be glad that it's set for the tires and not the speed limit. wait maybe we can get our elected officials to change it where all manufacturers put the max speed in for 70 mph seeing how that's the fastest most people in american can legally go. no one needs to go any faster. hell they don't even need to go that so why not 55. . .that solves the whole problem and you'll be getting better gas mileage too. yess I'm going to write to my elected official now and suggest this! thanks.

to answer your last question just because you've ordered or haven't doesn't mean you haven't been waiting for it longer or not. guess life doesn't happen that makes you prioritize other things ahead of a car. . .wait that might be what's wrong with america today. . .they buy what they can't afford just because they can get the credit for it. . .yess. . .hmmm guess you're right I haven't wanted it bad enough or long enough. I'm sorry. please forgive me. all mighty one.

Seriously, can you please quit posting in this thread? Nobody really cares that you had to wait for your car. Find another thread (or create your own) to rant and complain about speeding in. This thread is about a possible issue that DOES exist, and your solution of staying under the speed limit is just ridiculous. How do you solve tire wear, avoid driving the car? Just as ridiculous. Please utilize your back button, or continue to get flamed by others here. I'm sure that somewhere a "Slow Driving Camaro Owner Club" exists, and your role as President is needed.

[KJS]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

ever heard of the law and there is a limiter on the camaro. just be glad that it's set for the tires and not the speed limit. wait maybe we can get our elected officials to change it where all manufacturers put the max speed in for 70 mph seeing how that's the fastest most people in american can legally go. no one needs to go any faster. hell they don't even need to go that so why not 55. . .that solves the whole problem and you'll be getting better gas mileage too. yess I'm going to write to my elected official now and suggest this! thanks.

to answer your last question just because you've ordered or haven't doesn't mean you haven't been waiting for it longer or not. guess life doesn't happen that makes you prioritize other things ahead of a car. . .wait that might be what's wrong with america today. . .they buy what they can't afford just because they can get the credit for it. . .yess. . .hmmm guess you're right I haven't wanted it bad enough or long enough. I'm sorry. please forgive me. all mighty one.

Regarding speed limits - READ the thread! its more than speed limits, its speed limit AND HEADWIND and repeated over time!
Waiting vs getting right away? Waiting after ORDERING a car vs "waiting for the right time" which is apparently what you're doing are two COMPLETLY DIFFERENT THINGS.
Oh, I've saved my $ and will be paying CASH!
Your is appology accepted - The Almighty one!
Now you can go away son, go away!

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

ever heard of the law and there is a limiter on the camaro. just be glad that it's set for the tires and not the speed limit. wait maybe we can get our elected officials to change it where all manufacturers put the max speed in for 70 mph seeing how that's the fastest most people in american can legally go. no one needs to go any faster. hell they don't even need to go that so why not 55. . .that solves the whole problem and you'll be getting better gas mileage too. yess I'm going to write to my elected official now and suggest this! thanks.

Where was the law about racing the car? So it's illegal to drive a car faster than 70mph anywhere in the US?

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

to answer your last question just because you've ordered or haven't doesn't mean you haven't been waiting for it longer or not. guess life doesn't happen that makes you prioritize other things ahead of a car. . .wait that might be what's wrong with america today. . .they buy what they can't afford just because they can get the credit for it. . .yess. . .hmmm guess you're right I haven't wanted it bad enough or long enough. I'm sorry. please forgive me. all mighty one.

Waiting is YOUR choice. You decided to set your priorities in a way that results in you having to wait as long as you will. Don't put yourself in the same place as the GM customer - as far as the Camaro is concerned, you are a fan and fans have not committed to GM anywhere near as much as those Camaro buyers that are bringing up ligitimate concerns any customer would bring up.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by espo19047

OK if we go with "how do you know" then I will ask how do you know how it really happened? How do you know the car did not hit something? How do you know if it is an isolated case?

exactly my point it's one car and not multiple cars yet. and it's already been said gm needs to fix this it's a big problem. well it's one car and it could have been a fluke. yes it is a concern but before you know why jump on the bash gm band wagon on here? that question is directed at everyone that's telling me that it's a huge issue.

Originally Posted by Hylton

Where was the law about racing the car? So it's illegal to drive a car faster than 70mph anywhere in the US?

if you read the post it said because most people don't have a need to go over 70. which is a valid point. and also never said anything about taking the car to the race track. but hell if you keep going off the mentality of some people in the states then there's no need to race cars so why even be capable of going faster then the speed limit?

Waiting is YOUR choice. You decided to set your priorities in a way that results in you having to wait as long as you will. Don't put yourself in the same place as the GM customer - as far as the Camaro is concerned, you are a fan and fans have not committed to GM anywhere near as much as those Camaro buyers that are bringing up ligitimate concerns any customer would bring up.

he brought up the question of when I ordered not that it has anything to do with how long someone has wanted the car. he was trying to make the point that I didn't want or haven't wanted it as bad as him because he's got one or has one on order. either way I don't care what he's got or done. the point was just because you've got the money and can order doesn't mean the poor man over here can. I never said it wasn't my choice to wait. and read the reply to the post above this. that's my point. one car. . .

[b4z]

This will be a PITA because if GM strengthens the front fascia then all of the new fascias will have to be repainted, they won't match perfectly and we all know that
the paints they use will chip easier than the factory paint.

[Nine Ball]

Originally Posted by espo19047

OK if we go with "how do you know" then I will ask how do you know how it really happened? How do you know the car did not hit something? How do you know if it is an isolated case?

Before speaking with the tech, myself and my other two staff noticed the cracks and looked high and low for signs of impact or curb type damage. The paint was still flawless, no signs of scuffs or spiderwebs. Originally, I assumed it might have hit something, on the lower bumper, to push the bumper down and cause a crack. The tech came out later and we asked, he said the cracks formed after some high speed runs. Keep in mind, this shop has a full 1/4-mile and long shutdown lane on site. They hold several 60-130 mph events on this track, basically from rolling through the staging lanes and hitting the starting lane at 50+ mph. They log these 60-130 runs on several cars, some pushing 1500 rwhp. So, this wasn't done on the street.

Maybe this is an isolated case. Maybe it was a freak of automotive occurrences. The ONLY fact we have here is that these cracks exist, and the fact that this shop did some high speed trial runs. They have had the car about a week, it is a production car from a local Chevy dealer.

[2010 SS RS]

There are a lot of cars already delivered out there. Before we all start to panic and piss ourselves we should wait and see if other members are having the same issue. Word out to all that have Camaro's we need high speed testing as soon as possible to test the plastic facia. Go out today and blast off into a strong headwind and report your results immediately.

[GM'r_For_Life]

I know this is many many years ago but when I use to put the nose cone on the front corner of the 1978 impala if our gun was set at too high of a tourque it would show a hairline crack which could exagurate when the car hit a big bump. Yes even at 25 mph.
This could be all it is and just a slight loosening of the nuts holding the front facia on could cure the problem. Just a thought. Agree this should be caught during the build.
I have no doubt that some of these slipped out the door back in 1978. PS some may have been to tight and did not show the crack at the plant also.