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SS Mike · 08-21-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by giod

I have a non RS SS (not my choice) but i called the dealer to install the halo on my car, they are waiting on a harness, I wonder how the non rs center button on the switch will affect averything. why do people keep saying the fog lights are the DRL on the SS they are not.. they do not come on unless you push the button. the DRL are the standard halogens..

They are DRL's with the RS package, not with just the SS. On an RS, any trim, the "fogs" are the DRL's.

SS Mike · 08-21-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jrhaus76

GREAT IDEA! You do it first and tell me what you did so I can copy!

The non-RS switch is an excellent idea!

Haha, you got it!! I'll do a write up and everything! With pictures!!!

patriotpa · 08-21-2009, 06:40 PM

Let me make one point VERY clear: I am NOT looking to start a pissing contest, so don't try!

I prefer the standard lights. The HIDs are too harsh, more toward the blue/white spectrum, creating massive glare.

Here's the Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-in...ischarge_lamps

Education is your friend!

Rocky918 · 08-21-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by patriotpa

Let me make one point VERY clear: I am NOT looking to start a pissing contest, so don't try!

I prefer the standard lights. The HIDs are too harsh, more toward the blue/white spectrum, creating massive glare.

Education is your friend!

theres no such thing as blue/white spectrum... white light is a combination of all the colors of light together... therefore the white spectrum encompasses blue and everyother spectrum as well...

education is not your friend

... lol sorry i had to be technical

SS Mike · 08-21-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky918

theres no such thing as blue/white spectrum... white light is a combination of all the colors of light together... therefore the white spectrum encompasses blue and everyother spectrum as well...

education is not your friend

... lol sorry i had to be technical

Haha, good point. Also, the point of the Kelvin measurment of HID's (around 4200 for stock HIDs on most cars) is supposed to be closer to the natural color of light such as from the sun. When you look at the beam itself it is white, the blue comes from the bending of the light near the cut off shield due to the lens. HID's are very bright and harsh, when you look straight into them, that's what the cutoff shield is for. You absolutely can't beat the width of HIDs, and the brights are absolutely incredible, turning night into day

patriotpa · 08-21-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky918

There's no such thing as blue/white spectrum. White light is a combination of all the colors of light together... therefore the white spectrum encompasses blue and every other color as well...

Education is not your friend.

... Lol. Sorry I had to be "technical".

I fixed your post for you.

I post something to be helpful and add meaningful content to the thread and you have to be an ass?

Pick nits much? If you want technical, I'm an EE and can measure the exact light output both level and frequency and post it. You know exactly what I was saying. You just chose to be a jerk. (No smiley or other indication of attempt at humor)

Here's a nice Wiki that's pretty simple to understand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum

If you want to see a chart of the entire spectrum from VLF to gamma, the FCC has a nice chart on their website. I leave it to you to go search for it. It will be educational. Consider it penance.

Here's another Wiki about HID lighting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-dis...ischarge_lamps

IROCanSS · 08-21-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by patriotpa

I fixed your post for you.

Pick nits much? If you want technical, I'm an EE and can measure the exact light output both level and frequency and post it. You know exactly what I was saying. You just chose to be a jerk. (No smiley or other indication of attempt at humor)

Here's a nice Wiki that's pretty simple to understand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum

If you want to see a chart of the entire spectrum from VLF to gamma, the FCC has a nice chart on their website. I leave it to you to go search for it. It will be educational. Consider it penance.

Here's another Wiki about HID lighting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-dis...ischarge_lamps

where is the :YAWN: smiley? I got an A in Electical Engineering in College but don't really care how many lumens or where the lights fall in the spectrum between VLF and gamma... all I care about is that the HID and halos look BAD ASS!!

IROCanSS · 08-21-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Mike

Haha, you got it!! I'll do a write up and everything! With pictures!!!

Gentry78 · 08-21-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jrhaus76

I am working on some ideas to change this. I want to be able to run the DRL with the halos. I think it will look asewome. I NEVER run the DRLs during the day. Totally pointless. First thing I do is switch them off. Did on the C5 and C6 too so i am used to it. Anyhow, I am going to rewire the the fogs to come on with the halos so they will always be on when the halos are. I may do a switch so i can have just the halos and not the fogs. It will be easy, just more wires and then I have to figure where to mount the switch inside the car without drilling any holes.

Anyone done this yet?

yes but you need to change the DRLs over to HID or that would just look ugly

Gentry78 · 08-21-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Mike

Haha, good point. Also, the point of the Lumens measurment of HID's (around 4200 for stock HIDs on most cars) is supposed to be closer to the natural color of light such as from the sun. When you look at the beam itself it is white, the blue comes from the bending of the light near the cut off shield due to the lens. HID's are very bright and harsh, when you look straight into them, that's what the cutoff shield is for. You absolutely can't beat the width of HIDs, and the brights are absolutely incredible, turning night into day

you mean K not lumens

sorry everybody else is being technical

IROCanSS · 08-21-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentry78

yes but you need to change the DRLs over to HID or that would just look ugly

Not disagreeing but why? Or is it b/c when the head lights are on I'd have HID lights and then crappy halogen "fogs" (I know they aren't technially fogs)?

SS Mike · 08-21-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentry78

you mean K not lumens

sorry everybody else is being technical

Haha, yes k as in Kelvin, measurement if temp, not light. Sorry i wrote that in a hurry at work and it was a long day

Gentry78 · 08-21-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Mike

Haha, yes k as in Kelvin, measurement if temp, not light. Sorry i wrote that in a hurry at work and it was a long day

lol i knew what ya meant

SS Mike · 08-21-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jrhaus76

Not disagreeing but why? Or is it b/c when the head lights are on I'd have HID lights and then crappy halogen "fogs" (I know they aren't technially fogs)?

I think thats what he meant, the HIDs wouldn't look good with halogen fogs below. I feel the same way

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08-21-2009, 06:40 PM	#45
patriotpa Account Suspended Drives: 02 Silverado, 09 Vue, 10 1SS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tired of apologizing when we should be kickin' butt! Posts: 1,962 View My Garage	Let me make one point VERY clear: I am NOT looking to start a pissing contest, so don't try! I prefer the standard lights. The HIDs are too harsh, more toward the blue/white spectrum, creating massive glare. Here's the Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-in...ischarge_lamps Education is your friend!