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Chaz0698 · 05-12-2008, 04:11 PM

unless the new mustang drops 500 lbs.. a 400hp 5.0L is going to get a mid 13 quarter mile. Camaro did that with 300hp

LS9CamaroSS · 05-12-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaz0698

unless the new mustang drops 500 lbs.. a 400hp 5.0L is going to get a mid 13 quarter mile. Camaro did that with 300hp

well there is the problem... the Mustang GT for 2008 weighs 3800 lbs... that is why your 02 camaro ran a better time than the Gt500... that thing has to weigh over 2 tons... if our camaro comes in under the Mustang (which might be hard) we'll have an edge...

Chaz0698 · 05-12-2008, 04:53 PM

do you think the camaro will break into the high 12's for the 1/4mi.?? or will it remain in the low 13's

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-12-2008, 10:22 PM

High twelves. Most definitely High twelves. People have been able to get stock G8s into the mid/low 13's. Less weight, more power = high twelves.

Captain Awesome · 05-12-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

According to this article on Leftlane News: http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-beg...ang-spied.html

The 5.0L is expected to make 400hp, 400 lb-ft. If true, GM has their target to beat. See, this is why we've had to wait for a later release date and limited information. GM has their bogey now, and we'll win as a result (assuming that article is accurate).

Good article!

Looks like ford's test mules beat out the chevy test mules in the category of "most exposed dual mufflers".

LS9CamaroSS · 05-13-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

High twelves. Most definitely High twelves. People have been able to get stock G8s into the mid/low 13's. Less weight, more power = high twelves.

we all hope

*TAG UR IT* · 05-13-2008, 05:01 AM

Which model?

The model I get will be running high twelves. I wonder what the top dog will be running, though!?!?!

LS9CamaroSS · 05-13-2008, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Which model?

The model I get will be running high twelves. I wonder what the top dog will be running, though!?!?!

well he is saying stock G8's so i'm thinking base V8... top dog might get high 11's... i hope!!!

*radz28* · 05-13-2008, 10:29 AM

I haven't read too many reviews about the GT500, but even as much as that car weighs, to only run a low 13 is flat out poor; that driver couldn't drive for crap. Most of these crappy rags' couldn't drive to save their lives; the only magazine I'd trust to run real world numbers would be like GMHTP or Mustangs and Fast Fords. I know that GMHTP runs on a preppd' track, powershifts, and just runs balls out. Those other rags' (save probably Chevy High Performance and Super Chevy) don't powershift, run on a crappy, unprepared surface for drag tests, and drive like "old ladies." A comparison between a nearly stock LS1 F-body to a stock GT500 is crazy; that 500 would run circles around a F-body given a good driver.

Regardless, I'm sure that GM has a fair idea what's going on with the competition and will deliver us a car that is at least the equal of anything on the market upon release.

Chaz0698 · 05-13-2008, 12:02 PM

anyway you look at it.. its pretty impressive to know that our base camaro should be running neck and neck with the top dog mustang. personally im not too worried about their naturally asperated model. those models have never been a threat

EDIT: base v8 that is

*radz28* · 05-13-2008, 01:27 PM

I don't believe that a base Camaro is going to keep up with a 500. Those cars make like and average of 450 RWHP and although they weigh near 4000+ lbs. I can't see the math in a car with 150 horse' less, a couple hundred pounds less, go faster; how's than math work out?... Don't get me wrong; I'd love to see that happen, but I just don't see that happening. It doesn't really matter until we start getting numbers anyway.

JMHO.

Chaz0698 · 05-13-2008, 03:54 PM

heres my logic. from the best data ive read, a stock GT500 run in the 1/4 is 12.8sec.. 500hp or not, those are the numbers. The G8 GXP, (which is heavier than a camaro) is supposed to run similar numbers at 402hp. So there is no reason a lighter 400+hp camaro should not do the same.. right??

TheMadHatter99 · 05-13-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaz0698

heres my logic. from the best data ive read, a stock GT500 run in the 1/4 is 12.8sec.. 500hp or not, those are the numbers. The G8 GXP, (which is heavier than a camaro) is supposed to run similar numbers at 402hp. So there is no reason a lighter 400+hp camaro should not do the same.. right??

Sort of...

The problem is that the faster you go the more the Earth and other physical forces try to resist further acceleration so in order to go faster and faster the necessary HP (or consequently necessary weight-loss) is an exponential curve rather than a linear relationship. Thus it's hard to draw exact comparisons.

Chaz0698 · 05-13-2008, 05:32 PM

how about we take the cobra's supercharger off and see how well it does..

05-12-2008, 10:22 PM	#46
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	High twelves. Most definitely High twelves. People have been able to get stock G8s into the mid/low 13's. Less weight, more power = high twelves. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

05-13-2008, 10:29 AM	#51
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,809 View My Garage	I haven't read too many reviews about the GT500, but even as much as that car weighs, to only run a low 13 is flat out poor; that driver couldn't drive for crap. Most of these crappy rags' couldn't drive to save their lives; the only magazine I'd trust to run real world numbers would be like GMHTP or Mustangs and Fast Fords. I know that GMHTP runs on a preppd' track, powershifts, and just runs balls out. Those other rags' (save probably Chevy High Performance and Super Chevy) don't powershift, run on a crappy, unprepared surface for drag tests, and drive like "old ladies." A comparison between a nearly stock LS1 F-body to a stock GT500 is crazy; that 500 would run circles around a F-body given a good driver. Regardless, I'm sure that GM has a fair idea what's going on with the competition and will deliver us a car that is at least the equal of anything on the market upon release. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

05-13-2008, 01:27 PM	#53
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,809 View My Garage	I don't believe that a base Camaro is going to keep up with a 500. Those cars make like and average of 450 RWHP and although they weigh near 4000+ lbs. I can't see the math in a car with 150 horse' less, a couple hundred pounds less, go faster; how's than math work out?... Don't get me wrong; I'd love to see that happen, but I just don't see that happening. It doesn't really matter until we start getting numbers anyway. JMHO. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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05-12-2008, 04:11 PM	#43
Chaz0698 Drives: 2007 mustang gt Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 18	unless the new mustang drops 500 lbs.. a 400hp 5.0L is going to get a mid 13 quarter mile. Camaro did that with 300hp

05-12-2008, 04:53 PM	#45
Chaz0698 Drives: 2007 mustang gt Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 18	do you think the camaro will break into the high 12's for the 1/4mi.?? or will it remain in the low 13's

05-13-2008, 05:01 AM	#49
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,544 View My Garage	Which model? The model I get will be running high twelves. I wonder what the top dog will be running, though!?!?!

05-13-2008, 12:02 PM	#52
Chaz0698 Drives: 2007 mustang gt Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 18	anyway you look at it.. its pretty impressive to know that our base camaro should be running neck and neck with the top dog mustang. personally im not too worried about their naturally asperated model. those models have never been a threat EDIT: base v8 that is

05-13-2008, 03:54 PM	#54
Chaz0698 Drives: 2007 mustang gt Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 18	heres my logic. from the best data ive read, a stock GT500 run in the 1/4 is 12.8sec.. 500hp or not, those are the numbers. The G8 GXP, (which is heavier than a camaro) is supposed to run similar numbers at 402hp. So there is no reason a lighter 400+hp camaro should not do the same.. right??

05-13-2008, 05:32 PM	#56
Chaz0698 Drives: 2007 mustang gt Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 18	how about we take the cobra's supercharger off and see how well it does..