Radar Detector

[aston70]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

There are good officers...and there are bad.

I was doing 67 in a 60 seeing the red and blues from a TX state trooper way ahead of me. I slowed down at least a mile away as he was already on a traffic stop. The lights turned off. He stayed there. I passed him. He pulled me over. He claimed I was doing 83 in a 60. BULLSHIT!!!

Did you tell him you were an officer too... And that you'd be on the look out for him? lol...

I once was pulled over by a TN state trooper and he let me go. I could absolutely not friggin' believe it. I though state troopers gave tickets to their own mothers.

It seems to me I got more tickets when I had a radar detector than without one. I was always busted before I could even react to the detector and my laser detector always went nuts when driving into the sun.

I had an officer friend that told me that if they see you with a radar detector they consider that intent to speed, which is an automatic ticket no matter what excuse you came up with.

[DntWrryBeHappy21]

Originally Posted by aston70

I had an officer friend that told me that if they see you with a radar detector they consider that intent to speed, which is an automatic ticket no matter what excuse you came up with.

If i was an officer and I pulled someone over and they had a radar detector i would probably give them a ticket too (if i pulled them over for speeding though) if it was for something else I would ignore it.

Originally Posted by PA FAST

Thank you, you understand where I am coming from. This is exactly how I feel. I truly feel for you, your state has the worse cops ever.

Actually the one ticket I got was in NY and I was doing 80 in a 65 but wouldve been nice if he said he was going to give me a ticket instead of saying he wanted to check if I had problems...

and NJ may have the worst cops but it also has some very nice ones as well



BTW: IMO your more apt to get a ticket when driving out of state (in NY with NJ plates) because you are less likely to fight it in court (which would mean driving farther to fight it)

[divvichild]

Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Check out the new article by motortrend. They have a pic of RVM in V6 model. They look like developmental Camaros but looks like some other goodies in overhead console. Wonder what's there besides a place for garage door remote or sunglass storage.

thanks for that pic, very nice angle.

Wow, this thread really blew up didn't it?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by PA FAST

Now it makes sense, thanks for clarifying.
No problem...I should have done that in the first place.

First for starters am I wrong in assuming that cops are out to get me due to my age? If I am wrong I will eat my words, thats how you learn anyway (By being wrong). How I see it they are out to get me, from my own experiences and experiences of my friends/family who drive. Plus cops are hypocrites and liars.
You're wrong in the assumption that they're out to get you. But you're not wrong in experience. Police Officers are supposed to be professional enforcers of the law. Most, but not all, are; and I grant you that. But generally assuming they're all crooks is wrong in the purest sense of the word. But this has been hammered out already -- so case closed on this front.

First they are supposed to enforce the speed limit, but whenever they get a chance they go much faster than the speed limit. Understandable when they are on call, but they seem to do it all the time on the highway. Don't you think law enforcement should set a good example by not running lights and staying within 5-10 MPH of the speed limit?
Call it a perk of the job, I guess. Officers can be pulled over by other officers, you know. And it's not fair to assume that they're racing down the highway for fun. They may not have lights on, but who says they aren't going somewhere? (Especially if they're running red lights)

I also call cops liars from personal experience. About 2 years ago my family was driving home from NY after picking up our pets (A friend was watching them while we were on vacation). The A/C wasn't working and it was 80+, and we were stuck in traffic for hours. While in NJ my father decided to go 77 MPH to get home faster since our pets were very uncomfortable in the car. A state trooper pulled him over and told him he was doing 82 MPH. Total BS since he never went above 77 MPH, I was watching from the passenger seat. This was the first speeding ticket he got in 25 years of driving.
Speedometers can be off by 5mph -- it's believable (tires, speed, and other factors play a role)...my Mother was once pulled over for doing 45 in a 40. The needle never went over 41, and I was a witness. It could have been the speedo...it could have been his equipment. But descrepancies like this is what court is for. The cop saw what he saw; and he has every right to ticket because it's his job. What would you do in his place, take your father's word for it even though your equipment says something else?

Even so; one guy is not enough to label all officers as liars. If 99% of them were bad eggs; that wouldn't be enough to label them, either...

The stereotype that mostly younger people speed is also total BS IMO. Right now I am in South Carolina on vacation, and on the way down dozens of people from southern states (Especially the people from Florida) were doing 20-30 MPH above the speed limit. Many of the drivers were older people, well into their 60's.
That doesn't prove younger people don't speed. It proves you saw a bunch of old people speeding. Not very conclusive; because I get behind an elderly person every day that does 45 down a 55mph street.

And it's not BS.

#1; there are statistics that work against people our age.
#2; have you been reading what you're writing?
-you want to speed, but you're angry if you get pulled over for speeding because they obviously would have stopped you for your age and not the fact that you were speeding.... you fit the statistics: you speed. So why are you upset that they look for you?


Again as I stated I enjoy driving fast. Other people do it (Cops, people from Florida, etc) and I want to also. I am not concerned about gas prices, I drive a 4 cylinder car most of the time and a Camaro to me would only be a fun car I would drive during my free time when the weather is nice. However, I take offense to you believing I get a thrill out of terrifying people. I just enjoy driving fast, I shouldn't have to explain myself since plenty of other people do it and get away with it due to their position in society or age.
I meant no offense. I'm just trying to understand, because you're running circles around yourself trying to rationalize something that just cannot be rationalized. (and I wrote 'thrill' and 'scaring people' intending them to be two separate things, fyi)

How do you know all those other people "get away with it", anyways? They may have been ticketed in the past, but just haven't learned their lesson. Or they may be ticketed in the future -- good. But if you just enjoy going fast, there are facilities built exactly for that purpose: Go to a track.

As you can see I am not a rarity, a whole industry has developed to counter law enforcement.

It doesn't mean they're right. An entire industry has developed around drugs, too..........

[jdpickering]

I was reading the article from Motor Trend that was posed and they have a good picture of the roof.

[divvichild]

I'm not going to lie. I used to speed and constantly drive 20-30 mph over the speed limit. But ever since I got two tickets, its not worth it. 1 more ticket, and I lose my license, and possible if something goes wrong, my life.

It isn't hard to drive the speed limit, and coming from an adrenaline junkie who used to do it A LOT, it really means something.

Just a fun little physics lesson. Kinetic energy = (1/2)mv^2

Say the PSL is 60miles per hour, and you car weights 2 tons(for simplicity)

That means that your Kinetic energy = (1/2)*2*60^2 = 3600(relative to units)

Increase your speed to 80 mph = (1/2)*2*80^2 = 6400

So by increasing your speed by only 20mph, you almost double the kinetic energy of your car.

You will probably die hitting a car at 60, you do it at 80, you are twice as dead. So you see, really not worth it. Not to mention your and other driver's reaction times are decreased, making it more dangerous.

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by DntWrryBeHappy21

Actually the one ticket I got was in NY and I was doing 80 in a 65 but wouldve been nice if he said he was going to give me a ticket instead of saying he wanted to check if I had problems...

and NJ may have the worst cops but it also has some very nice ones as well



BTW: IMO your more apt to get a ticket when driving out of state (in NY with NJ plates) because you are less likely to fight it in court (which would mean driving farther to fight it)

Just curious how much did you have to pay for that ticket? I haven't met many NJ state troopers, but whenever I drive into NJ I see them all over the place. How can you guys afford to drive as fast as you do (Many fast drivers in NJ I noticed) with as many state troopers that are around?

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by Robert91RS

I consider you all my friends, and that is why I want to say this. Stereotyping officers is as bad as stereotyping the way young people drive. Remember they keep you and your belongings safe. Are there bad cops? Sure, but it's the good ones that keep criminals in fear enough to remain law abiding people. I too enjoy pushing the speed limit and my driving record reflects that, but that doesn't mean I should do it.

In my case I don't hate cops personally, but I am suspicious of them. I always keep my eyes out for marked/unmarked cop cars. The problem I have is how do you tell the good from the bad?

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

It doesn't mean they're right. An entire industry has developed around drugs, too..........

Maybe, but I don't see anyone cracking down on them. Maybe law enforcement has the right to crack down on producers/sellers of Jammers, but what's wrong with detectors? It just lets you know when they are tracking you.

[DntWrryBeHappy21]

Originally Posted by PA FAST

Just curious how much did you have to pay for that ticket? I haven't met many NJ state troopers, but whenever I drive into NJ I see them all over the place. How can you guys afford to drive as fast as you do (Many fast drivers in NJ I noticed) with as many state troopers that are around?

I dont remember it was in upstate New York though....however as far as state troopers in JERSEY dnno I seem em all the time but none have pulled me over yet...did get a ticket recently i have to pay $180 because i was driving my moms car and couldnt find the registration until after the cop started writing the ticket (for not having documents) but i'm going to fight it see what happens because i found the registration right after.


back on topic:
I think the radar detector should be fine because whether or not they get a ticket, if the radar beeps the driver would slow down and TECHNICALLY the police are still doing thier job by enforcing the law and forcing people to drive safely...

[Beyond Limits]

Originally Posted by divvichild

I don't in any way condone speeding, but we all do it. Especially here in California, which is exactly like you mention in Florida, everyone drives above the speed limit. However, when driving a sports car, you are definitely more scrutinized then other motorists, and will be targeted first. Anyway, once you get hit with laser, if you employ the technique correctly, you slow down anyway, and the officer has accomplished his objective, to make the world a safer place.

An officer can write you a ticket for doing 4 over the speed limit. Its not unusual for Leos to sit on the side of the freeway near the end of the month and just pull over random vehicles for speeding even though they were just going with the flow of traffic, nothing faster.

I live in California where jammers are illegal, so I'm in no way partial to using them. Just offering information to others.

A couple of things... Jammers are illegal everywhere. And it is not a ticket if you get caught with one it is actually a federal offense. Jammers emit a radio signal in an attempt to confuse a police radar and consequently are classified as transmitters by the FCC. Now given the frequencies that radars operate on (24.150GHz for K band and 33.4-36GHz for Ka band) you are required by federal law to have a license before you can operate equipment on those frequencies, which makes the very act of having a jammer illegal to own, not to mention illegal to sell so anyone who is selling you a radar jammer is full of it. So if you get caught with one you are technically at the mercy of the cop and depending on the mood they are in you could spend some time with your local agents.

And as for a laser jammer. Take that $800 bucks, roll it up and throw it out the window on the freeway. Don't even waste your money. You cannot evade a lidar (laser radar which is the technical term for a laser system). Once your detector alerts you to a laser hit it is already way too late. The cop already has your speed by then. The newest lidars cannot be jammed anyhow, they are pulse width modulated emitters which means they can filter out any signal they did not generate in real time.

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by DntWrryBeHappy21

I dont remember it was in upstate New York though....however as far as state troopers in JERSEY dnno I seem em all the time but none have pulled me over yet...did get a ticket recently i have to pay $180 because i was driving my moms car and couldnt find the registration until after the cop started writing the ticket (for not having documents) but i'm going to fight it see what happens because i found the registration right after.

Good luck to you, if you found the papers the cop should of tore up the ticket.

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by DntWrryBeHappy21

Okay....basically, some cops are assholes, some are nice. Hm just like everyone else in this world. Ive met a few been pulled over, one was generous and actually helped me ALOT (in extreme amounts that i cant even explain) in court as far as payments go (and having to wait longer to get my liscense) and then others told me they wanted to "check" if i had any problems with my liscense and comes back with a ticket instead. Thats how the world is. I personally dont like authority but i dont mind at all when the authority is doing his job and not being an ass.

You do have a very good point, but just friendly "fyi" my department requires we check out with everyone...even if I pull a military vet. I have to check everyone's status...nothing personal, some cops just use that "cop talk" and they come off as jerks....Don't read to much into it, but yes in society and in law enforecement you have good and bad. But the bad (JUST LIKE IN SOCIETY) are the minority believe it or not.

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by Beyond Limits

A couple of things... Jammers are illegal everywhere. And it is not a ticket if you get caught with one it is actually a federal offense. Jammers emit a radio signal in an attempt to confuse a police radar and consequently are classified as transmitters by the FCC. Now given the frequencies that radars operate on (24.150GHz for K band and 33.4-36GHz for Ka band) you are required by federal law to have a license before you can operate equipment on those frequencies, which makes the very act of having a jammer illegal to own, not to mention illegal to sell so anyone who is selling you a radar jammer is full of it. So if you get caught with one you are technically at the mercy of the cop and depending on the mood they are in you could spend some time with your local agents.

And as for a laser jammer. Take that $800 bucks, roll it up and throw it out the window on the freeway. Don't even waste your money. You cannot evade a lidar (laser radar which is the technical term for a laser system). Once your detector alerts you to a laser hit it is already way too late. The cop already has your speed by then. The newest lidars cannot be jammed anyhow, they are pulse width modulated emitters which means they can filter out any signal they did not generate in real time.

amen, and like I said..its just a matter of time.

Originally Posted by DntWrryBeHappy21

I dont remember it was in upstate New York though....however as far as state troopers in JERSEY dnno I seem em all the time but none have pulled me over yet...did get a ticket recently i have to pay $180 because i was driving my moms car and couldnt find the registration until after the cop started writing the ticket (for not having documents) but i'm going to fight it see what happens because i found the registration right after.

Unfortunately, statute will state that you must have it on demand. You "technically" did not have it at the officer's demand and will PROBABLY lose along with court costs, AGAIN, just friendly "fyi" you may have a forgiving judge. Just some heads up before you go....