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Blade · 05-26-2010, 11:07 AM

I had 3M done on the rockers, quarters and half way up the hood. My priority was to get the metal parts down. The plastic front fascia woulda cost me as much as the stuff I got done, so I said screw it. Plus I can always have the plastic repainted in the future when I have some change for it and then do the 3M on the fascia too.

I do think that a good way to avoid chips on the driver side gills is to stay off the line on the interstate. The best way I believe is to grab those splash guards, because they will keep the tires from kickin back all them tiny chips

Dakota Kid · 05-26-2010, 12:06 PM

I have 6500 miles on my RJT SS, and too many paint chips. Too many. There is no doubt this IS a legitimate problem, but there is nothing I can do right now about other than not drive closely behind others, and touch up the paint chips as necessary.

myold88 · 05-26-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HeaterMan

I have had over 150 collector cars with nice and /or new paint and these cars chip way worse than any of them. Gm cut corners in materials or in procedure.. plain and simple. I am picking up a new challenger R/T this weekend and i have been all over the challenger forums and dont read anything about paint chipping issues over there. the cars are painted in Canada.. U.S enviromental laws don't apply there.

Exactly- I've been restoring antique cars for 40 + years. Base coat/clear coat is all thats used now and I never have a chippping problem. I also have an '06 Impala with 60,000 plus miles without one chip. Chipping on this new Camaro is GM's fault. It's definately a paint preperation process problem and nothing to do with the EPA, etc.
GM will never fess up to this as it would cost them millions. They will probably solve the problem on new Camaros, but they will never correct currently built Camaros due to cost. Just my 2 cents worth.

black2black10 · 05-26-2010, 02:29 PM

Are late vin numbers having paint trouble as much?

Buhmblbe · 05-26-2010, 02:37 PM

My VIN is in the 84K range and I do get chips despite driving like I'm on eggshells.

I actually just added the moulded splash guards from GM and am hoping it will curtail some of this nonsense. My wife has a '08 Impala with 30K miles and the only scratches/chips are from parking lot dings and mishaps. This paint that GM provided to us sucks rotten monkey tails(trying to keep it G rated).

So here's the stupid question of the day...

How much would it cost(approximately) to have the whole car repainted PROPERLY by a body shop/professional?

FinMan · 05-26-2010, 02:42 PM

I have a 3 month old car with 4K miles. I drive all over Houston freeways at 80 mph (lots of big trucks) and do not have one rock chip.

Other than I never tailgate, I have no idea why.

TooCool5 · 05-26-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FinMan

I have a 3 month old car with 4K miles. I drive all over Houston freeways at 80 mph (lots of big trucks) and do not have one rock chip.

Other than I never tailgate, I have no idea why.

Maybe the premium paints (IOM, RJT) don't chip as easy.

04Ram2500Hemi · 05-26-2010, 03:20 PM

Threads like this make me glad I spent the $750 on the Clear Bra. It won't stop them all, but it will stop a good amount of them.

2SSRSB · 05-26-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TooCool5

Maybe the premium paints (IOM, RJT) don't chip as easy.

I hope that's it! I have 2,300 miles on the car in a little over two months with no chips.

bumblebeecamaro · 05-26-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

DUDE, sure GM may suck for not putting on enough paint, but you have to be damn nuts to be crying about those infinitesimally small chips! That s*** most likely cant be seen from a distance, at all! Which means,.....it's invisible! So what?! The human eye isn't even designed to pick up s*** that small from mid to long distance. Dude come on.......your obsessing. The car will not stay in perfect condition.

some people like myself take A LOT of pride in our car's appearance. so while some people might now care that there front end looks like something from a Madd Maxx movie, other people like myself do care.

plus... I paid a lot of money for my car. therefore I would expect to have the highest quality of paint as possible. the fact that these cars chip so easily tells me GM is cheaping out somewhere down the line.

kinda funny that this is my only new car I have ever owned that has chipped so easily. so this obviously means this isn't normal.

O2BQIK · 05-26-2010, 04:06 PM

My suspicion is that there are two things at work causing more chips on this car than others. First, the paint or the clear may be thin...seems that way to me. But second, the lines of this car seem to direct objects into the surface more directly. I mean I find bug guts when the roof meets the windshield. Never seen that before. And the front end has a lot of area where it is perpendicular to the road. My guess is that these two things together leads to more chips than normal.

But to those asking what GM is going to do about it...my money is on "nothing", because it's "normal."

O2BQIK · 05-26-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

plus... I paid a lot of money for my car. therefore I would expect to have the highest quality of paint as possible. the fact that these cars chip so easily tells me GM is cheaping out somewhere down the line.

Not to rain on your parade, because I absolutely agree with you. But I would suggest that if you are going to be as particular as this about a car, you may not have bought the right car. This is a Chevrolet...GM's entry level brand and you spent a lot less on this car than you would on a similar-performing machine that was made to a higher level of quality. There's a reason the Camaro is a performance bargain.

Again, I agree with you that the paint should be better. But I do think maybe your expectations are a little high too.

Santos · 05-26-2010, 04:12 PM

i have alot aswell and i barley drive it, when i do i try not to even be behind people. just another way US policy sucks tow hitch, dont get me started on rock chips though i turn hulk green when i hear that "POP" makes me want to get in front of people and throw bags of coins

rez333 · 05-26-2010, 05:10 PM

clear bra is not ugly. It's only ugly if you don't cover the entire panel. If you cover the entire panel, it's invisible.

05-26-2010, 11:07 AM	#43
Blade Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS BVM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 4,689 View My Garage	I had 3M done on the rockers, quarters and half way up the hood. My priority was to get the metal parts down. The plastic front fascia woulda cost me as much as the stuff I got done, so I said screw it. Plus I can always have the plastic repainted in the future when I have some change for it and then do the 3M on the fascia too. I do think that a good way to avoid chips on the driver side gills is to stay off the line on the interstate. The best way I believe is to grab those splash guards, because they will keep the tires from kickin back all them tiny chips __________________ Formerly owner of: 2012 2SS/RS Build Thread - Totaled by red light runner 2010 LT/RS Build Thread - Traded in for 2012 2SS 2007 Acura TSX 1992 Oldsmobile Achieva V6 1992 Mercury Sable

05-26-2010, 12:06 PM	#44
Dakota Kid Drives: 2010 2SS/RJT/L99 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,151	I have 6500 miles on my RJT SS, and too many paint chips. Too many. There is no doubt this IS a legitimate problem, but there is nothing I can do right now about other than not drive closely behind others, and touch up the paint chips as necessary. __________________ 2SS/RJT/L99

05-26-2010, 02:37 PM	#47
Buhmblbe Growing Up=Optional Drives: 2010 Camaro Transformers 2LT RS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Setauket NY Posts: 165 View My Garage	My VIN is in the 84K range and I do get chips despite driving like I'm on eggshells. I actually just added the moulded splash guards from GM and am hoping it will curtail some of this nonsense. My wife has a '08 Impala with 30K miles and the only scratches/chips are from parking lot dings and mishaps. This paint that GM provided to us sucks rotten monkey tails(trying to keep it G rated). So here's the stupid question of the day... How much would it cost(approximately) to have the whole car repainted PROPERLY by a body shop/professional? __________________ "Sleep is an inconvenience to living...Get up and start living." Last edited by Buhmblbe; 05-26-2010 at 02:38 PM. Reason: grammer

05-26-2010, 04:12 PM	#55
Santos Santos Drives: 1SS Blk 6M ECS 1500 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 606 View My Garage	i have alot aswell and i barley drive it, when i do i try not to even be behind people. just another way US policy sucks tow hitch, dont get me started on rock chips though i turn hulk green when i hear that "POP" makes me want to get in front of people and throw bags of coins __________________

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O2BQIK Drives: 1991 Camaro RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dallas area Posts: 596	My suspicion is that there are two things at work causing more chips on this car than others. First, the paint or the clear may be thin...seems that way to me. But second, the lines of this car seem to direct objects into the surface more directly. I mean I find bug guts when the roof meets the windshield. Never seen that before. And the front end has a lot of area where it is perpendicular to the road. My guess is that these two things together leads to more chips than normal. But to those asking what GM is going to do about it...my money is on "nothing", because it's "normal."

05-26-2010, 05:10 PM	#56
rez333 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Joseph Posts: 1,283	clear bra is not ugly. It's only ugly if you don't cover the entire panel. If you cover the entire panel, it's invisible.