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SSOOCH · 06-28-2011, 09:52 AM

Remember, Mrs. SSOOCH had to install my AIRAID CAI

Darth_Emma · 06-28-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SSOOCH

I'm joking...you know I have no idea what the hell I'm taking about!! LOL

Even I knew that! However, I also know SSOOCH is the king of comic relief! Now where is that spatula video...

Dr Jkel · 06-28-2011, 09:58 AM

I have a dumb question. I heard on one bolt cams that the original cam bolt is a one time use bolt and has to be thrown away once it is removed and the new bolt from the kit HAS to be installed, something about torque tension bolt or something like that is only good for one time use.

Huggerorange73 · 06-28-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Jkel

I have a dumb question. I heard on one bolt cams that the original cam bolt is a one time use bolt and has to be thrown away once it is removed and the new bolt from the kit HAS to be installed, something about torque tension bolt or something like that is only good for one time use.

You are correct....the cam bolt is a torque to yield one time use bolt.

That bolt was replaced per the installer...it's on the bill as PN # GM-11561283 @ $5.20

garcmol · 06-28-2011, 10:08 AM

Same with the crank bolt, if my learnin' serves me correctly. Torque to yield, 1 time use.

Huggerorange73 · 06-28-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by garcmol

Same with the crank bolt, if my learnin' serves me correctly. Torque to yield, 1 time use.

You are 100% correct!

thesnoopster · 06-28-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by garcmol

Same with the crank bolt, if my learnin' serves me correctly. Torque to yield, 1 time use.

Wow Norm been doing his homework!

Dr Jkel · 06-28-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

You are correct....the cam bolt is a torque to yield one time use bolt.

That bolt was replaced per the installer...it's on the bill as PN # GM-11561283 @ $5.20

Ok was just a thought of why it may have failed.

PAUL SS · 06-28-2011, 12:03 PM

On the cam bolt washer or shoulder is there any evidence of the pin making contact as the bolt was turning during the torqueing down? If you can follow that...

Huggerorange73 · 06-28-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PAUL SS

On the cam bolt washer or shoulder is there any evidence of the pin making contact as the bolt was turning during the torqueing down? If you can follow that...

Hard to say...this is what the bolt looks like now.

PAUL SS · 06-28-2011, 12:16 PM

That's interesting, there is a mark there and I believe photos have shown the pin is that relative position. Did they use a ft lb plux xx degrees? How many degrees is that mark around that bolt?

Huggerorange73 · 06-28-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PAUL SS

That's interesting, there is a mark there and I believe photos have shown the pin is that relative position. Did they use a ft lb plux xx degrees? How many degrees is that mark around that bolt?

I'm going to have to assume they followed GM spec with regards to proper torque + degrees.

The bolt is at home, but that mark is about 180 degrees around the bolt...

PAUL SS · 06-28-2011, 12:23 PM

Then its chicken and egg time, did the mark on the bolt happen when it was torqued or when the pin broke? If it happened when it was torqued (which I am leaning to) then there was insufficient clamping force on the gear forcing the pin to bear more stress than it was designed for.

Huggerorange73 · 06-28-2011, 12:23 PM

Better look at the gear and marks.....

06-28-2011, 09:52 AM	#547
SSOOCH Camaro SL,UTs Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,357 View My Garage	Remember, Mrs. SSOOCH had to install my AIRAID CAI __________________

06-28-2011, 09:58 AM	#549
Dr Jkel Roll Tide Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Talladega, Alabama Posts: 4,378	I have a dumb question. I heard on one bolt cams that the original cam bolt is a one time use bolt and has to be thrown away once it is removed and the new bolt from the kit HAS to be installed, something about torque tension bolt or something like that is only good for one time use. __________________ MUSTANG...Like Bringing a Hot Dog to a Steak Dinner....There is no comparison.

06-28-2011, 10:08 AM	#551
garcmol Drives: 10 1LT SIM; 91 B4C sleeper Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Mitchell, Alabama Posts: 7,198	Same with the crank bolt, if my learnin' serves me correctly. Torque to yield, 1 time use. __________________ Pedders Pace Car Package, Injen CAI, Flowmaster AT, AAC Lighting, ZL1 fascia/skirts, RKSport Ram Air hood, vented fenders, painted stripes (Gary's Customz), Honor and Valor badged (Thank you, John)

06-28-2011, 12:03 PM	#555
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,688 View My Garage	On the cam bolt washer or shoulder is there any evidence of the pin making contact as the bolt was turning during the torqueing down? If you can follow that... __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

06-28-2011, 12:16 PM	#557
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,688 View My Garage	That's interesting, there is a mark there and I believe photos have shown the pin is that relative position. Did they use a ft lb plux xx degrees? How many degrees is that mark around that bolt? __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

06-28-2011, 12:23 PM	#559
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,688 View My Garage	Then its chicken and egg time, did the mark on the bolt happen when it was torqued or when the pin broke? If it happened when it was torqued (which I am leaning to) then there was insufficient clamping force on the gear forcing the pin to bear more stress than it was designed for. __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

06-28-2011, 12:23 PM	#560
Huggerorange73 Banned Drives: The REAL C5 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Norridge, IL Posts: 1,830	Better look at the gear and marks..... Attached Images

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