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Old 07-16-2008, 09:15 PM   #561
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boxmonkeyracing: Okay. I'm not going to press the issue. We just don't see eye to eye on everything. Hopefully that's okay. Sorry to pounce on you.

gtahvit: Like I said. I've accepted the car will be different and didn't complain about it. Really. You can go check. I happen to LIKE a lot of things about the car. I really didn't say anything "negative" about it for days now.

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Old 07-16-2008, 09:17 PM   #562
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Please.

To those of you are close to the Camaro and take the time to communicate with us.

Don't let the complaints of a few over shadow the accolades of the many. We all know not everyone is gonna like everything. I can't imagine what having your work, on a global project like the Camaro, come under such close scrutiny feels like. There are a lot of us here who would love to jump in and join the frey, but have decided to stay out of it. Just because we are silent here doesn't me we aren't as overwhelmed with the successes as some are with what they perceive to be failures.

For what it's worth, I can confidently say most of us here don't agree with the complaints made here. Call us the silent majority if you like...

Or maybe not: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5124



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Captian Awesome, I'm politely requesting that you agree to disagree. Because if there isn't an end to this banter soon, I'm pretty sure the Mods will kill it. Which would be a shame because this is supposed to be a pretty positive thread for those of us who are pleased with the new Camaro.
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Is it hot in this thread or its just me

I understand the complaints, but why is everyone making a big deal over it, still going to take your asses to the dealership and buy

Hate to say, every car has its faults, the chally a pig, the stang is..........., the maro needs plastic surgrey ( judging by everyone's response)

get over it
Double , The reason I think everyone is so burnt about this is because we were not there to see and understand the changes. I didn't like the mirrors when we first saw the pre pro....... but it grew on me. but thats just me. Now everyone hold there breath and count to 10..... see thats better. but opinions are what make people different and GM cant meet all the DIFFERENT peoples opinons.
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The ONLY reason that this argument hasn't been closed and cancelled before now, is because this is one darn important thread.

I'm asking you all, for the sake of the thread; to just give it a rest. Wait until Monday. You will have FINAL pictures; you can decide to not like it then...though I wager you won't.
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Double , The reason I think everyone is so burnt about this is because we were not there to see and understand the changes. I didn't like the mirrors when we first saw the pre pro....... but it grew on me. but thats just me. Now everyone hold there breath and count to 10..... see thats better. but opinions are what make people different and GM cant meet all the DIFFERENT peoples opinons.
Damgascap...wrongsidenotontopwaaaaaaaa

Still love the (amazingly close to the concept) car...

So Monday we get the
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The ONLY reason that this argument hasn't been closed and cancelled before now, is because this is one darn important thread.

I'm asking you all, for the sake of the thread; to just give it a rest. Wait until Monday. You will have FINAL pictures; you can decide to not like it then...though I wager you won't.
Who said I didn't like it? I love the Camaro.
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Who said I didn't like it? I love the Camaro.
Wha? I ---..........Not me!!


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Old 07-17-2008, 12:24 AM   #568
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Ok, whether it solves the ploblems or not... someone close this thread or delete it, or something.... becasue the hostility has gotten slightly out of hand. I hope no one kills me for saying that, but its true. This thread was meant to show what we might be getting. Some people liek it, some don't. The ones that dont have accepted it and agreed to move on, so can we please do that? Can we just move on? I would say kiss and make up but that is jsut a little freaky... so can we shake hands?? Start new.... be friends?

EDIT: I was typing when boxmonkey posted his last responce, so i didn't see it. BTW
I agree. We're now starting to make our beloved fbodfather angry. The car is great. Leave it at that. Please close this thread.
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:19 AM   #569
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Not true, there are TONS of bumps under 5mph. You just don't notice them because the 5mph standard says there has to be NO damage from such a collision. You'd sure notice if you backed into a wall or a pole or another car or whatever and found $550 worth of damage to your trunk lid and rear window because your bumper had no lip. And you'd sure notice a LOT higher insurance payment every month too if we didn't meet that standard. Now everyone stop asking about the rear bumper or I'm going to freak out.





That question sure proves that it's not as bad as you whiners are making it out to be. I bet most people would NEVER notice that lip and half of the people that see it would like it. We've told you 100x that NOTHING was changed on a whim and you still act like we just got bored with the original design or decided that the fans weren't worth seeing it through. We worked so much harder than you armchair critics can possibly imagine to make it look as good as possible and as close to the concept as possible and I sincerely hope that if you don't like it that you never even see one, let alone have the privilege of owning one. You'd think we made it look like a Malibu Max for God's sake. A one inch wide lip on the bottom of the bumper is what you're complaining about.
Please don't have a freak out You wouldn't want to scare Shunt any more than he already is now would we.. You know what I recommend, going over to your local Sharper Image and sitting in one of those massage chairs and relaxing for an hour or two.. Listen to some Yanni or other elevator music and your set to return to this site and take a few more bumper insults without a freak out episode..
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Who said I didn't like it? I love the Camaro.
Do you have a link so we can check out the shunt 08 presidential platform?
Is he Independent/green/ or libertarian party???
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Hey all, and welcome to the Camaro5.com chat forums, here are some basic rules we should all try to live by

1) Respect. By far the most important rule here. Through the generations of Camaros, enthusiasts have come together for the love of the car and the community (in fact, the name "Camaro" means "friend, pal, or comrade"). So, the basic rules of real life apply here, show each other respect and you will get respect as well. Don't bash someone else here because you feel like it. Personally insulting other members will not be tolerated.

2) Disagree, don't attack. Disagree on topics, but try to leave it at that. Just because you don't like someones opinion on the car's engine, doesn't mean you should call him and his mother all sorts of names Disagreements are fine, and you should feel free to express your difference of opinion, but don't go out of your way to insult and flame someone. Please consider if you would say to someone's face the same thing you are posting.

4) Help. Be helpful, we are all probably here because of a question and people will go out of their way to help you. Try to do the same if you have the answer to a question posted. Camaro enthusiasts have to stick together. If you think not telling others about some technical info you have will make you and your car unique and prefer to be unique rather than share this information, then this forum is not for you. Help each other with questions and answers and I guarantee you, one day you will be helped out in kind here.

These rules will be enforced but only to improve everyone's stay here In the end, we're all enthusiasts here, so help each other out !
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Well, that definitely makes sense about the rear bumper Fbodfather and Camero. Sorry, it's just at times I ignore the rear lip and sometimes I pay too close attention to it. It kind of bothers the lines of the car IMO. Like I said, I'm still buying a Camaro (Z28 hopefully) but I may go aftermarket for the rear bumper. You guys are right though, I should judge when I see the final product AND in person. I was just amazed when I saw the red concept in person so I'm kinda expecting the production Camaro to WOW me more than the concept.
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Hey all, and welcome to the Camaro5.com chat forums, here are some basic rules we should all try to live by

1) Respect. By far the most important rule here. Through the generations of Camaros, enthusiasts have come together for the love of the car and the community (in fact, the name "Camaro" means "friend, pal, or comrade"). So, the basic rules of real life apply here, show each other respect and you will get respect as well. Don't bash someone else here because you feel like it. Personally insulting other members will not be tolerated.

2) Disagree, don't attack. Disagree on topics, but try to leave it at that. Just because you don't like someones opinion on the car's engine, doesn't mean you should call him and his mother all sorts of names Disagreements are fine, and you should feel free to express your difference of opinion, but don't go out of your way to insult and flame someone. Please consider if you would say to someone's face the same thing you are posting.

4) Help. Be helpful, we are all probably here because of a question and people will go out of their way to help you. Try to do the same if you have the answer to a question posted. Camaro enthusiasts have to stick together. If you think not telling others about some technical info you have will make you and your car unique and prefer to be unique rather than share this information, then this forum is not for you. Help each other with questions and answers and I guarantee you, one day you will be helped out in kind here.

These rules will be enforced but only to improve everyone's stay here In the end, we're all enthusiasts here, so help each other out !
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