MSRP or below, Dealers

[robby]

Hoskins Chevrolet
175 N. Arlington Hts Rd.
Elk Grove Village Il. 60007

847-439-0900

Tell whatever salesperson who answers that Robby sent you.
Dealer does not nor have they ever sold over retail and there are no bogus add ons. (Paint sealant, rustproofing, glass etching, you all know the routine)

Rob

[InfernoFlame]

Knoephler Chevrolet
Marty Roth (great guy )
712-279-7194 (office line)
100 Jackson St.
Sioux City,IA 51101

$500 deposit and honesty cant beat it

[nassau97]

Just this afternoon ordered a black 2SSRS, 6 speed, polished wheels, sunroof and quicksilver stripes. Got it for under MSRP on a cash deal and using a GM supplier number. They have about 6 spots left on their allocation list. Very, very nice dealer to work with. Required $500 deposit.

Greenwood Chevrolet
Austintown, Ohio

[siggy]

My dealer called me today. Advised it was in transport. I ordered 10/16/08. I am getting GMS pricing. Rose Chevrolet, Hamilton, OH ask for Aaron White. The last I heard back before Easter, GM had accepted my order.

[2010SSRSM6]

Originally Posted by mikenmar

Ordered mine from Ed Cerepak at Putnam GM in Burlingame, CA: ecerepak@putnamgm.com

I emailed him, he emailed back the quote out-the-door (MSRP plus taxes and registration). Called up and put down the deposit this AM. Totally trouble-free, highly recommended.

This dealership just refused to sell a car to a member here for the agreed to price of M.S.R.P. You may want to rethink your arrangment.

Here is a link: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23797

This is becoming a problem and we need to do everything possible to nip it in the bud. I wouldn't consider this a non price gouging dealer.

[z06invb]

Originally Posted by Wareal

How were you ripped off? The Black SS was a preordered car and a MSRP deal. There is more to this deal that I will not discuss on a public forum. The Camaro may indeed be a limited production car. The ZR1 was sold to the CEO of a Fortune 500 company--just another "idiot" who banks seven figures.

Well it may have been pre ordered but that not how RK portrays it. In fact they actually advertised the car and then when you would go in to look at it when it was displayed they would say " oh we sold that one quick for 10 % over sticker ". So if it was a pre order sold at MSRP they are lying and they are a rip off.

Here is how they had the car on Craigslist.

New never titled. 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Black/black leather automatic six speed. Loaded. Ready for delivery.

SOLD! That didn't take long.

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/ctd/1166839760.html

[Chrisrp454]

Classic of Granbury, Texas
MSRP!

[2010SSRS]

College Chevy in Albion Michigan
www.collegechevy.com

517.629.2151

ask for Thomas
thomas@collegechevy.com

MSRP/GMS

i called him because they had one on the internet showing for sale and it was our exact order. i figured they'd want over MSRP, but to my suprise..........nope.

great little dealership.

[pruettfan]

Originally Posted by Shadowmind

There is a VERY high probability that the SS series will be a limited production run. With the new CAFE standards that are passed, GM will not be able to reasonably make the SS with a V8 to meet those standards. At least not for another decade. My hypothesis is that 2012 will be Camaro's last run year, or.. They'll gut it to the point that it has no power. But definitely, the SS will not be around by then.

The '10 SS will in all likelihood become the '69 SS collector's idol of the future.

But that still doesn't give dealerships the right to gouge us 20% over MSRP... Considering they win on invoice, plus 3% holdbacks, not to mention, they don't have to advertise the vehicle. It's simply, plain robbery.

I don't agree with your analysis about the future of the Camaro. This car was designed with these standards in mind. That is the reason they chose a direct injection V6 and the L99. The standards you speak of don't go into full effect until 2016 which is after this generation of Camaro will be redesigned.

[pruettfan]

Originally Posted by Blue Joe

By the way z06's have been selling for $4000-$5000 below MSRP for 4-5 months now.

Actually I have seen many for 9-10k under msrp. A regular C6 can be had for under 40k at one dealer in CA.

[Treadstone]

Lynch Chevrolet
Auburn, Alabama.

[Treadstone]

John (forum name allmotor) works for Lynch chevrolet in auburn. Great cs from them ordering was extremely simple and easy and fast.

[Shadowmind]

Originally Posted by pruettfan

I don't agree with your analysis about the future of the Camaro. This car was designed with these standards in mind. That is the reason they chose a direct injection V6 and the L99. The standards you speak of don't go into full effect until 2016 which is after this generation of Camaro will be redesigned.

Given a choice between a thirsty corvette, the Chevy icon, and thirsty Camaro V8, in addition to all of the thirsty trucks GM makes, GM will reduce its line-up to better 'average' its MPG consumption.

The CAFE standards not only require a maker to have an average MPG on its vehicle line up, but it also sets new standards to testing the validity of MPG on the sticker. We all know that the sticker MPG is typically 25% more than the actual MPG of the vehicle.

Also bear in mind a few, 'right now' goings on.

GM is about to file bankruptcy. I don't think there is any way for them to avoid it right now. Through the bankruptcy, large chunks of GM are going to be severed off. Once the bankruptcy is complete, the company will be a shell of what it was several years ago. They will have no possible revenue to 'redesign' any vehicle they currently have on the market right now, to meet those standards. They're more likely to stop production on thirsty vehicles and sell mass inventory instead until things pick up.

The government, won't lend them anymore $$, to redevelop 'performance' cars either.

The LS99 is a great technology, but they'd need to overhaul it, and combine the variable cylinder tech with the HCCI to get some real gains in MPG. Combine that with Hybrid cell tech in the Camaro and they 'may' have something by 2016.

But seriously.... Do you think they're going to devote several billion more dollars on a HCCI V4/8 Hybrid SS Camaro within the next decade?

Neither do I.

This may be the last breed of SS we see for awhile. But again, I can't stomach dealers marking up a vehicle 30%, that looses 60% of its value out the door, that "might" become a collectors car in 20 years.

[theholycow]

Shadowmind, you have a couple fact errors...

Originally Posted by Shadowmind

Given a choice between a thirsty corvette

The 2009 Corvette is EPA rated 16/26. The 2009 Toyota Camry V6 is rated 19/28. I'd say the Corvette is not "thirsty" when it compares so closely to a Toyota family sedan.

Now compare it to a 2009 Acura RL: 16/22. Yikes! Most of Toyota's Lexus line also gets worse fuel economy than a Corvette. This is without even trying to compare in its own class, I'm just going for comparisons to cars that should do better than the Corvette.

Dodge Viper: 13/22. This car is in the same class, right?
Honda S2000: 18/25. WTF??? How can a smaller, lighter, Honda-made, lower displacement, higher-tech car do worse on even the highway rating (and only 2mpg better city)? I am genuinely surprised. I was sure that the S2000 would be rated way better than a Corvette. That wraps it up for me, I'm not checking any more ratings.

The CAFE standards not only require a maker to have an average MPG on its vehicle line up, but it also sets new standards to testing the validity of MPG on the sticker. We all know that the sticker MPG is typically 25% more than the actual MPG of the vehicle.

Here is where you actually seem to be confused.

• The EPA ratings on the window sticker are not related to the CAFE ratings and are significantly lower. If a car is EPA rated 29mpg, it might be CAFE rated 42mpg.
• The EPA changed the test procedure for the ratings on the window sticker beginning in model year 2008 (and they adjusted old ratings to approximate the new procedure so it's possible to compare). The new procedure produces ratings that represent the fuel economy that average drivers really will accomplish. I significantly exceed the EPA's ratings, generally getting 30% better in my automatic pickup and 50% better in my manual car, but most people should expect approximately the EPA rating.

This may be the last breed of SS we see for awhile. But again, I can't stomach dealers marking up a vehicle 30%, that looses 60% of its value out the door, that "might" become a collectors car in 20 years.

Agreed. It's unacceptable, and when I buy my next new Chevy, I'm going to check these threads to see who marked up and who didn't -- and I won't visit the ones that did. There's plenty of dealers and plenty of cars out there.