zl1 or 1le

[charlie46]

If you are purchasing a 1le and are keeping it stock , then go for the 1le . if you plan on modifying a new 1le ie: supercharger go for the zl1 !

[J-vette]

Everybody is losing what the op asked, the zl1 is better than the 1le. The 1le is the better value. The 1le takes, uses parts from the zl1 & that makes it a lot better than the SS even if it's just a package. The 1le package changes the SS or transforms it to a beast. The zl1 is a beast also, but it's not the king camaro anymore - z/28 is when it comes out. The z/28 uses a lot of parts from the 1le, that came from the zl1.
The 1le is just the best value you can get in the form of a camaro, it's not the best camaro you can get.
Also the 1le is closer to the z/28, not the zl1. I'm not knocking the zl1 bc I was going to get one until I found out about the 1le.

[Scott 78]

Originally Posted by StoutSnout

Not quite the same comparison. The ZL1 isn't an SS w/ZL1 package, where the 1LE is specifically that, an SS with a package.

They are all the same frame for the most part. Just different equipment bolted to it. I'm not picking on the ZL1 or standing up for the 1LE. They both fill different markets. But a camaro is a camaro is a camaro. Only difference are bolt ons.

[Camaro Dude]

Originally Posted by Front Runner

Boils down to what you really want. Test drive both and decide then. That's the fun of it all. You can't go wrong either way.

1LE= great car, awesome performer, less cash
ZL1 = big dog Camaro, does all well, more cash

It's a win, win decision!



Quick question, if he did blow & tune the 1LE, wouldn't it be the same cost (or very close) as the ZL1 he's looking at? If so, why not purchase the ZL1 to begin with?

Only problem is, many dealers(well here anyways), do not allow test drives in 1LE's and Zl1's. They allow them in the V6 and some regular base SS's...

It's true to never build what you can already buy, but adding a SC or TT on a 1LE with 1SS packaging, you are still coming out waaaay ahead in the wallet over a ZL1. A ZL1 still adds lots n lots of electronic goodies, like magnetic ride suspension, which the SS even under 1LE guise, does not have at all, and adds to the cost out of the box.

This is precisely why I bought my 1LE. Very excellent value, anyway you slice it.

[charles s]

ok so what besides the supercharger are the actual differences between the 2 ? lets compare

[CamaroTom]

With the ZL1 you are not just paying for a supercharger. You are paying for a driveline and motor engineered for the added stress of a supercharger, with a track warranty. Those are things a 1LE will not have just slapping a supercharger on it. You also get mag ride and a lot better aero. The price of the ZL1 is fully justified. The 1LE for its bargain price would not be possible without all the ZL1 innovations.

[Msmall143]

Originally Posted by SSRS55

Hey brain surgeon... dollar for dollar your car holds value zero percent better then my 1Le. A used Zl1 can be had for mid forties now and in some cases low forties, I don't consider that holding good value at all. And if we talk about your wrecked one even less value, so not sure what point your trying to make.

My car on the other hand is worth what someone will pay for it.. it has tasteful and professionally installed parts with all receipts and will appeal to a certain crowd and if it doesn't then so be it, I'll keep it and when the deal comes along then maybe I'll sell it IF I feel I need to move on!!
I bought this car to have fun and mod and smash cars like yours for fun not for an investment.
I'm not to worried !! I've had many many cars in my life and I am yet to be upside down or make a bad deal when it comes for something new.

Oh and the last thing I'm trying to do is make my car a ZL1 , your the only poser around here trying to fit in!

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What's with the name calling and personal attacks!....poser, really...please explain.

I was referencing a stock car (any car) vs the value of a modded car (any car). With the exception of some slp', henneseys and what not, stock is always going to be better when you look at the amount of money you get back out of it.

You come in here, make obnoxious post then say you "unsubscribe"

Classy

[SSMY1LE]

Wow, what a debate, there will never be a right answer on this. Being that I just ordered a new 1LE on Friday and not a ZL1, I can honestly tell you my 2 main reasons:
1. Price, with everything else going on in my life the 1LE gives me the best bang for the money.
2. Power, not going to be racing just a nice touring/cruising machine with great looks that I don't have to alter.

This kind of debate has been going on for years, I'm sure it was the same when people asked "why not the Hemi instead of the 440 6 pak" or "why not the 427 tri power" or "why not the 429 Boss". Everyone has their reasons and they make sense to them.
Buy what you want and can afford............enjoy it and stop worrying about what other people have.

[Fraxum]

Holy cow. Why all the anger? Both are do it all performance cars.

If you want a car you will use as a serious or weekend track car the 1LE is a super deal and the car to buy.

If you can afford the extra ZL1 tariff and you like the idea of a very reliable FI car with a warranty that also can track and ride like a cruiser, then the ZL1 is an easy choice.

If you want to create your own supercar and think warranties are for worry warts, then starting with the 1LE is a great choice. You can build a reliable car with ZL1 performance for less. But of course no cruiser ride. And you have hurt your cars value. A modded car loses value much faster than any ZL1.

The ZL1 has that warranty. And is built to safely withstand really sick HP. So If I wanted to build a 1,000 HP Camaro, I would start with a ZL1.

Isn't it great we have these choices?

All of these cars are losers in the depreciation game, some more than others. If you want the smartest HiPo car buy of this era, you should have bought a Ford GT. But you have missed the opportunity for that screaming deal. Not sure if the Z/28 will be anything like the Ford.

And BTW, stock 1LE versus stock ZL1 in the 1/4? ZL1 FTW. No contest.

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by 1LE801

As an owner of a 1LE , let me just say, anyone who says they would take a 1LE over a ZL1 is just helping themselves cope with the fact that they couldn't afford the ZL1. Myself included ;-)

ZL1 IS the mecca

Well, I can afford a 1LE, A ZL1, a Corvette .. Actually, I could afford buying all of them at once.

However, i did buy a 1LE because:
- To me a muscle/pony car as to be atmo. No turbo or supercharger in
- To me, ZL1 had an awesome front and a horrible rear. That rear and rockers killed me.
- Being in Europe, was little scared 'bout the ZL1 magnetic ride. brand new might brand break so i decided to reduce the risk.

So I ride a 1LE coz' the 1LE (2013 , i find the 14 really ugly) is, to me, everything a Camaro should be: a performing simple atmo muscle car with style and american spirit.

ZL1 was to much of a GTR that would have had a baby with a SS.

So sayin' buying a 1LE is only a default choice is just untrue and kind of disrespectful (not a big deal though, I could live with that! lol)

[TxBandit911]

Wow, you guys have lost your minds. This reminds me of years ago the corvette owners would look down at me cause I had a WS6, then I would destroy them at the track.

This is simple, OP get the car you really love, the one that speaks to you. Accept nothing else. Both are great cars, even if you never see a track...

Everyone else, grow the hell up. I love my 1LE, its exactly what I wanted and it serves two purposes. 1: autox, road racing. 2: To make me happy. You guys acting like you're better than someone else because of your own personal value of your car is absurd.

[ChocoTaco369]

Originally Posted by 1LEMayhem

With the ZL1 you are not just paying for a supercharger. You are paying for a driveline and motor engineered for the added stress of a supercharger, with a track warranty. Those are things a 1LE will not have just slapping a supercharger on it. You also get mag ride and a lot better aero. The price of the ZL1 is fully justified. The 1LE for its bargain price would not be possible without all the ZL1 innovations.

This. A 1LE with a supercharger isn't that much cheaper than a ZL1 once you purchase all the parts, get them all installed and tune it. And then you'll have a car making ZL1-like power not designed for the power with no warranty.

Or you could spend a couple more dollars and get a full warranty on a chassis designed to handle the power with more future potential.

For me, the choice is obvious with the ZL1. There's a lot of hate on the ZL1 on Camaro5. I wonder if the ZR1 gets treated the same on Corvette forums.

People invariably defend what they have. I have a 2SS. The 1LE is a better car than a plain 2SS, I chose to save the 7 grand because it wasn't worth it to me, but that doesn't change the fact that the 1LE is a better performer. And the ZL1 is superior to the 1LE in almost every way as well. That doesn't make the 1LE a bad car, it just isn't a ZL1.

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

This. A 1LE with a supercharger isn't that much cheaper than a ZL1 once you purchase all the parts, get them all installed and tune it. And then you'll have a car making ZL1-like power not designed for the power with no warranty.

Or you could spend a couple more dollars and get a full warranty on a chassis designed to handle the power with more future potential.

For me, the choice is obvious with the ZL1. There's a lot of hate on the ZL1 on Camaro5. I wonder if the ZR1 gets treated the same on Corvette forums.

People invariably defend what they have. I have a 2SS. The 1LE is a better car than a plain 2SS, I chose to save the 7 grand because it wasn't worth it to me, but that doesn't change the fact that the 1LE is a better performer. And the ZL1 is superior to the 1LE in almost every way as well. That doesn't make the 1LE a bad car, it just isn't a ZL1.

2SS option and 1LE option are both about $3500. I get that you like the features of the 2SS over the features of the 1LE, and I know plenty of folks that would agree (actually many more folks would agree with you than disagree with you), but where does the $7000 come in?

[45thAnniversary2SS]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

2SS option and 1SS option are both about $3500. I get that you like the features of the 2SS over the features of the 1LE, and I know plenty of folks that would agree (actually many more folks would agree with you than disagree with you), but where does the $7000 come in?

A few questions.

1. How could the 2SS option and the 1SS option cost the same?
2. How can you pick the 2SS option over the 1LE option? They are both options. You can get a 2SS/1LE, right?