Are you kidding me?

[mrcowboy]

Just another reason why Texas is the greatest state in the union!

Ok j/k but tx is grand...

[Phoenix328]

Originally Posted by Van

Wow...you shouldn't make blanket statements on things you obviously don't know. In Texas I can shoot someone for spray painting my fence*! Sorry...here's the real law in TEXAS:

Deadly Force to Protect Property

"A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect his property to the degree he reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, theft during the nighttime or criminal mischief *during the nighttime, and he reasonably believes that the property cannot be protected by any other means."

"A person is justified in using deadly force against another to pervent the other who is fleeing after committing burglary, robbery, or theft during the nighttime, from escaping with the property and he reasonable believes that the property cannot be recovered by any other means; or, the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the property would expose him or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury. (Nighttime is defined as the period 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise.)"






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You gotta love Texas! (Except that its damn hot!)

dont read into that too much you still have to prove that the person is about to or just had commited a forcible felony. you will still have to articulat that your or your family was in immediate danger of great bodily harm or death someone spraypainting your fence does not qualify unless he was also spraying the fence with a firearm

[Van]

Originally Posted by Phoenix328

dont read into that too much you still have to prove that the person is about to or just had commited a forcible felony. you will still have to articulat that your or your family was in immediate danger of great bodily harm or death someone spraypainting your fence does not qualify unless he was also spraying the fence with a firearm

It was right in front of you and you still missed it:

A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect his property to the degree he reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, theft during the nighttime or criminal mischief *during the nighttime, and he reasonably believes that the property cannot be protected by any other means."

Granted...I will have to prove that I reasonably believed it was the only way to protect the property...but here in Texas homeowners typically have the benefit of the doubt.

I've had (in my town alone) instances where homeowners shot and killed (1) men attempting to break into their cars without a weapon at night with no legal recourse. (2) An actual incident where some punks kept tagging a fenceline over and over again and the homeowner pulled a shotgun on the guys in the act--only one got hit--but there was no legal recourse. Those guys didn't have guns on them either, just spray cans. (That's where I got the example for my statement in the first place). The individual committing the illegal act against me doesn't have to have a gun...nor does my life need to be threatened. I only have to show that they were committing an illegal act whereby my property was at risk...and it has to be at night.

But you're right that there is a possibility that the courts wouldn't side with me. It's kinda like the old guy Joe in Houston who shot two burglars trying to make away with his neighbors stuff, he shot and killed them both. Media shitstorm because of people saying he was racist...whatever. He didn't go to jail luckily either.

[sabrescamaro]

Originally Posted by Iwantone2

Karma's a good friend of ours...maybe that's why he drives a beat up Ford

And tears his lungs apart with every cancer stick he inhales.

[Thrillz]

I would have got my water bottle out and put some water in his gas tank. Im sorry but doing that your just asking for it.

[patriotpa]

Red fox urine below the windscreen. Get it at any sporting goods store.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by patriotpa

Red fox urine below the windscreen. Get it at any sporting goods store.

lol

[Phoenix328]

Originally Posted by Van

It was right in front of you and you still missed it:



Granted...I will have to prove that I reasonably believed it was the only way to protect the property...but here in Texas homeowners typically have the benefit of the doubt.

I've had (in my town alone) instances where homeowners shot and killed (1) men attempting to break into their cars without a weapon at night with no legal recourse. (2) An actual incident where some punks kept tagging a fenceline over and over again and the homeowner pulled a shotgun on the guys in the act--only one got hit--but there was no legal recourse. Those guys didn't have guns on them either, just spray cans. (That's where I got the example for my statement in the first place). The individual committing the illegal act against me doesn't have to have a gun...nor does my life need to be threatened. I only have to show that they were committing an illegal act whereby my property was at risk...and it has to be at night.

But you're right that there is a possibility that the courts wouldn't side with me. It's kinda like the old guy Joe in Houston who shot two burglars trying to make away with his neighbors stuff, he shot and killed them both. Media shitstorm because of people saying he was racist...whatever. He didn't go to jail luckily either.

im moving to texas!!! here in IL you have to be shot, bleeding out, and the guy has to have had an uzi before you can leagally get away with shooting him. and the kicker is...........im a cop and these things all have to happen for me to shoot them.

[Oldrocker]

Man there sure are alot of testosterone filled morons here. Most of you would of done what the OP did, stand amazed at the brazen behaviour of an idiot. Hopefully some of you will fully mature someday. Reminds me of a joke.... A cop pulls over a car for speeding. The driver starts smarting off and the cap smacks him across the face while the passenger sits and quietly watches, doing nothing. Then the cop procedes to walk around to the passenger and smacks him across the face. The passenger says "what was that for, I wasn't doing anything". The cops says, I did it because I know as soon as I walked off you would have said "I wish that mother f***er would of hit me, I would have kicked his ass".
It is a shame that there are people that don't respect others, but taking the high road and realizing you're the better person, not trying to retaliate is the proper way to handle the situation. Who knows, if you retaliate, you might end up being sued by the piece of trash and have to watch them drive by in your Camaro that he got in the settlement.

[JerseyMonte]

Originally Posted by Vuron00

My wife and I were running errands Saturday in her 1LT ABM. She always parks as far away as possible to avoid door dings and people messing with her car. She had to make a quick stop to get some copies made, so she parked pretty far away, but the spot that she parked in was facing the main road coming into the strip mall that we were in. There was a walkway and a little grass area between the parking space and the road.

So, she goes into the store and I'm standing beside the car having a smoke and watching the cars roll by. A dirty, nasty, greasy haired guy in a beat up Ford truck drives by, stares at me and the car, and flicks his cigarette right onto the hood of her car!

I couldn't believe it. I just stared in shock for a few seconds before I came around. I tried to get his license plate, but there was a car right behind him blocking it from view. I thought about jumping in the car and chasing his ass down, but just wasn't thinking clearly.

I know a bunch of you have had your cars keyed, egged, and vandalized, but can you believe somebody would do something right in front of you? This was unreal.

Sorry... just had to vent a little.

Just the fact he threw it with you watching is a good
cause for an major @$$ kickin
Something similar to that happened to me about ten years
ago I just finished a restoration job on a 67 Olds 442
buffed out the new paint job and drove it down to the
Jersey shore, parked in the lot about 400 feet from the
store no cars within 100 feet. I come out guess what?
theres a high top van parked with about 1 foot from me
I imediatly check the whole car out well there's a ding
that lines up to his door on my door.
Well I freaked out my wife started crying as I kicked and scratched
that custom van I know there were no scratches or dings I went from the shop to the store.
well that made me feel better even though I had to refinish the door

[Van]

Originally Posted by Oldrocker

Man there sure are alot of testosterone filled morons here. Most of you would of done what the OP did, stand amazed at the brazen behaviour of an idiot. Hopefully some of you will fully mature someday. Reminds me of a joke.... A cop pulls over a car for speeding. The driver starts smarting off and the cap smacks him across the face while the passenger sits and quietly watches, doing nothing. Then the cop procedes to walk around to the passenger and smacks him across the face. The passenger says "what was that for, I wasn't doing anything". The cops says, I did it because I know as soon as I walked off you would have said "I wish that mother f***er would of hit me, I would have kicked his ass".
It is a shame that there are people that don't respect others, but taking the high road and realizing you're the better person, not trying to retaliate is the proper way to handle the situation. Who knows, if you retaliate, you might end up being sued by the piece of trash and have to watch them drive by in your Camaro that he got in the settlement.

Yeaaaaaa. I guess you don't know me. Being a military vet--I've taken up some bad habits of letting people know when they are idiots, or when they're stupid, or when they've crossed the line. It has nothing to do with maturity, it has to do with being fed up with dirtbags and morons.

To be honest (because I know the law will protect that scumbag) I more than likely would have gotten the license plate and subsequently his address and made sure "karma" had his way with him. Because you're right that the law is ass backwards here and if I'd just smacked him for doing what he did he'll end up filing a civil suit for the injuries you inflicted upon him just because "he didn't notice where he flicked his cigarette".

Then again you can also go back with the cigarette and not attack him, but let him know that he fugged up...if he hits you first...so be it (there are ways around the civil suits you see because now you're having to defend yourself after returning a piece of his property!).

Good joke though!

[Van]

Originally Posted by Phoenix328

im moving to texas!!! here in IL you have to be shot, bleeding out, and the guy has to have had an uzi before you can leagally get away with shooting him. and the kicker is...........im a cop and these things all have to happen for me to shoot them.

Well...you're right though that its not guaranteed. It all depends on how the news channel portrayed the story!

[Camaro-Teskey]

find his truck and piss in the gas tank, or put sugar in it... try to make sure it's dark though

[greenrail]

Holy smokes. Geez, not excusing the perpetrtor, but, there are proper ways of handling something like this.

Obviously he was a bit jealous. Not excusing his actions. But, the reaction to be violent or cause more damage and risking personal exposure to charges is not a real good answer.

I would have done my best to follow, get his plate number and report the clown to the local authorities. Let the PD handle in a proper manner.

Like one of the other posters here said, you can't enjoy your Camaro from behind bars. What would be the point of that?