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Butcher · 03-25-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Padre

So let's do the math:
- You'll take a bath on your Camaro and lose perhaps $15k in mods you've done and value on the trade-in (or even personal sale).
- Best possible deal on a used GT-R is gonna be $60k+.
- You're going to be extending your current loan (let's say with the trade, you're keeping the same monthly payment), basically adding to your time on the loan, so add say $500/month for another 3 years (best case) = $18k
- Best case, 20k miles a year, gas at $4/gal premium, with the Camaro @ 10mpg (take off the lead shoe!) you'll spend $8k per year on gas. With the GT-R, 20k/year @ 16mpg, you're spending $5k per year. Savings= $3k.

So, add it up:
-15k loss of value on the Camaro
-18k extending your loan
+3k gas savings
= you lose $30k on this deal.
= or, $500/month on top of the ~$400/month you spend on gas, for 5 years.

Do the math!

Padre

You're figuring a loan for 3 years, but only gas savings for 1 year. I think there is a problem with your math.

jd10013 · 03-25-2012, 09:01 AM

it's not about the math.

Dznts · 03-25-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Butcher

The trasmission issue was because of people failing to read the manual. They were using the launch control too often, and that caused the trans to fail.

The GTR is superior the Camaro in every way. If you can afford the GTR, don't pass it up. If you can afford to modify the GTR, then you can own the street (or track).

Here, maybe this will help you make up your mind.

P.S. Still think the $100 bet is BS?

That thing is awesome. I love the gt-r, and would trade my camaro for one anyday if the deal was good. If the money is right then I say go for it, but as some have said it shouldnt matter what we think. You are comparing apples to oranges.

Padre · 03-25-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Butcher

You're figuring a loan for 3 years, but only gas savings for 1 year. I think there is a problem with your math.

Oops.

But it's still $500/month, so he saves $200/month on gas and is still paying $300/month more (ballpark figure).

But I've done similar things.

I just don't think you ever buy a new, more expensive car for the gas savings. But I'll accept the other non-tangible reasons. Ultimately, go with what will make you happy.

Padre

turboguy327 · 03-25-2012, 09:29 AM

Why are you even asking?? The GTR is a much better car in every way possible. If you can swing it go for it. Much more reliable. Way better looking. Huge heritage. Amazing track car that's legal to drive on the street. And you won't see many more if any at all. The camaro isn't a new model anymore and they are everywhere. I was so happy when I got rid of mine. I wish I could have got a GTR instead of my mini and gsxr though.

turboguy327 · 03-25-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cjon9657

Buy American. Not foreign.

Your an idiot. You do realize there isn't much American made about the camaro until it reaches dealer lots right?? Lol. The Camry and most subarus are more American than the camaro.

Dznts · 03-25-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by turboguy327

Your an idiot. You do realize there isn't much American made about the camaro until it reaches dealer lots right?? Lol. The Camry and most subarus are more American than the camaro.

WGAS!

Butcher · 03-25-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Padre

Oops.

But it's still $500/month, so he saves $200/month on gas and is still paying $300/month more (ballpark figure).

But I've done similar things.

I just don't think you ever buy a new, more expensive car for the gas savings. But I'll accept the other non-tangible reasons. Ultimately, go with what will make you happy.

Padre

I don't think He's buying it for the gas savings. That would just be a nice "bonus". BTW, I saw a used one at a Nissan dealer about 6-8 months ago and they were asking $55,000.

Shifty11 · 03-25-2012, 09:44 AM

GT-R Its an east decision if you can truly afford it. Its call GODZILLA for a reason.

Also... GTR a ricer? is like calling a toaster a fridge. It just aint so.

It would seem the car world have lost the fews between RICER and TUNER and Supercar.
Ricer = RX7, bad body kit, and just a loud exhaust with a retardedky big spoiler, trying to make it look fast instead of making it go fast.
Tuner = RX7, worthy body kit, full performance overhaul, making it sound like a blender, but they sure as hell are fast, Unlike ricers where they just look stupid and the person is trying to make it seem fast. Aka..big bucks for a proper tuner.
Supercar = GTR. Stock madness, beautiful lines (that any person should appreciate) and even more beautiful performance, which you'd obviously have to be a complete inbred SOB that had his skull beat in as a child not to see.

People need to stop giving a rats ass about where the car is made and who its sold by, Look at the numbers. GTR will smoke a camaro, challenger, mustang, vette. any day of the week. You may be hurt by this, but only because your can't accept it. GTR legitimately rules the streets. There is no getting around it.

Shifty

Dznts · 03-25-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ShiftySS

who its sold by, Look at the numbers. GTR will smoke a camaro, challenger, mustang, vette. any day of the week. You may be hurt by this, but only because your can't accept it. GTR legitimately rules the streets. There is no getting around it.

Shifty

not completely true. It wont smoke every corvette thats for sure

10BlkSS · 03-25-2012, 10:01 AM

WOw 9MPGs was the first thing I noticed too...thats terrible. I would imagine if you can swing a GTR you shouldnt have a problem keeping the current car though, arent they like $75,000+ even used?

Shifty11 · 03-25-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dznts

not completely true. It wont smoke every corvette thats for sure

Aha, ive never seen a GTR lose. (okay maybe once, but that was to a veyron.) But thats just from me.

Shifty

Xedes · 03-25-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dznts

not completely true. It wont smoke every corvette thats for sure

I think there's a YouTube video where it barely lost to a C6R. BARELY!!! Sorry to say but a ZR1 would be a smudge in its rear view mirror.

On a positive note, a vette is a world wide icon. Only car people actually know about a GTR and it's insane power. To most it's just a Nissan.

jd10013 · 03-25-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 10BlkSS

WOw 9MPGs was the first thing I noticed too...thats terrible. I would imagine if you can swing a GTR you shouldnt have a problem keeping the current car though, arent they like $75,000+ even used?

sounds about right, the new ones start at 96. Heck, you can go over to Nissan's website and build one if you want.

03-25-2012, 09:44 AM	#79
Shifty11 Proud Challenger Owner Drives: Black '11 Challenger. Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Fredericton, Canada, New Brunswick Posts: 56	GT-R Its an east decision if you can truly afford it. Its call GODZILLA for a reason. Also... GTR a ricer? is like calling a toaster a fridge. It just aint so. It would seem the car world have lost the fews between RICER and TUNER and Supercar. Ricer = RX7, bad body kit, and just a loud exhaust with a retardedky big spoiler, trying to make it look fast instead of making it go fast. Tuner = RX7, worthy body kit, full performance overhaul, making it sound like a blender, but they sure as hell are fast, Unlike ricers where they just look stupid and the person is trying to make it seem fast. Aka..big bucks for a proper tuner. Supercar = GTR. Stock madness, beautiful lines (that any person should appreciate) and even more beautiful performance, which you'd obviously have to be a complete inbred SOB that had his skull beat in as a child not to see. People need to stop giving a rats ass about where the car is made and who its sold by, Look at the numbers. GTR will smoke a camaro, challenger, mustang, vette. any day of the week. You may be hurt by this, but only because your can't accept it. GTR legitimately rules the streets. There is no getting around it. Shifty __________________ -Fredericton, New Brunswick "The North Side" I make Youtube Videos. Challenger's, Camaro's, Video Games, and the occasional randomness. Please go check out my channel! Please Subscribe, Thumbs Up & Comment!! It'd really help me out! http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJackedGamer?feature=mhee

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10BlkSS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Grand Island NY Posts: 248	WOw 9MPGs was the first thing I noticed too...thats terrible. I would imagine if you can swing a GTR you shouldnt have a problem keeping the current car though, arent they like $75,000+ even used? __________________ Maxima SE (Traded) Camaro SS Hummer H3

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