GM may be on strike!

[Kiss My SS]

Originally Posted by Russell James

Union rants and politics have nothing to do with enjoying your Camaro, hence should be banned, locked, never spoken of here again.

Peoples... enjoy your cars, order new cars if so inclined. Giving any of this BS any of your valuable time to worry about is rediculous. Don't like unions, don't join one.

Starting chicken little thread titles like this is just poking a big pile of shit better left unpoked.

"GM may be on strike!"

Really? Research the facts a bit first before sounding the alarm.

Its not as simple as you make it sound, in MOST cases if you get hired by a unions company you are FORCED to join the union or you dont get the job, how ya like that extortion?....LOL

[77rs]

I am not in the union but work on many prevailing wage government construction jobs. These wages were fought for by the unions- thank-you to the unions for fighting for these wages- I couldn't have gotten a Camaro without them!

[JRT]

Originally Posted by Kiss My SS

well basically you will get your car in January because the union guys sleep from fall until after christmas and still get paid....

You are confusing the unions with Congress. Those assclowns are the real threat to this country. They get paid large sums and don’t produce jack. Same goes for Wall Street.

To your previous post…why should the union or any other middle class workers give up anything? Maybe it is time for CEOs, board members, and upper management to stop taking such enormous salaries. The average American corporate CEO makes 450 times that of the average worker in the company…that is just down right crazy! I forget who the next closet country is, but it is like 45 times as much, that is where the US was in the early 80s.

Then you get companies like Verizon Wireless, Boeing, GE, all making 10-20 billion in profits and paying no taxes while the middle class is expected to carry the burden. Oh and now we are expected to take less pay, contribute more to retirement and shut the **** up. Not this guy…I’m mad as hell and I won’t take it anymore. I could go on and on!

We need to vote these bullshit Republicans out and make some real change in this country and we will go the way of the Romans.

[z28-conv]

I have been on both sides of a company with a union. I was a member and also was management.(worked in a casino). I am very much against unions. As far as I'm concerned if you work hard everyday and do a great job, you don't need a union. Your knowledge and ability to perform a job should show a company they need you.It really depends what your work ethics are. I am not saying there are no good union employees out there because I know from experience there is. The problem is all the useless ones that hide behind them. I love the Camaros I have and had. I have always been a Camaro guy and will always be one. I can't wait for my new one I have on order to come in. Thanks to the union employees who really do care about building a bada-- car and are proud of it!!

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by JRT

You are confusing the unions with Congress. Those assclowns are the real threat to this country. They get paid large sums and don’t produce jack. Same goes for Wall Street.

To your previous post…why should the union or any other middle class workers give up anything? Maybe it is time for CEOs, board members, and upper management to stop taking such enormous salaries. The average American corporate CEO makes 450 times that of the average worker in the company…that is just down right crazy! I forget who the next closet country is, but it is like 45 times as much, that is where the US was in the early 80s.

Then you get companies like Verizon Wireless, Boeing, GE, all making 10-20 billion in profits and paying no taxes while the middle class is expected to carry the burden. Oh and now we are expected to take less pay, contribute more to retirement and shut the **** up. Not this guy…I’m mad as hell and I won’t take it anymore. I could go on and on!

We need to vote these bullshit Republicans out and make some real change in this country and we will go the way of the Romans.

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by 9secs

Unions served thier purpose many years ago... but now they are just money hungry, letting people not show up for work for weeks, not put forward any work effort when they actually are there... why? Because they know they have the union and they wont get fired even if they dont do what they are paid to do.

I did not read the entire thread.....but please people - let's stop posturing and making such horrible statements.

To say that all union workers are money hungry is just not right.

And for the record: I do not belong to a Union - I never have - and I don't expect to.

We have a lot of great people in our assembly plants that go to work each and every day and work very hard and do the best possible job - because they have pride in what they do. They know (in the case of Camaro) that they're building a 'dream' -- so much more than 'just a car.'

The problem is that there will always be a small number of individuals that do bad things..........and the result is that an entire group of people get "painted with the same brush" so to speak.

How wrong and how unfortunate.

I think we all need to take a deep breath -- and let the sides negotiate.

Now - i'm going to say something that is MY OPINION - not that of the company for which I work:

Some need to go and look at the landscape as it relates to the auto industry. it is not a level playing field!

Go look at tarriffs that foreign countries put on U.S./Canadian built cars and trucks. Yet we allow them to bring their automobiles into our countries tarriff free.

It STUNS me that there are U.S. citizens that hope that GM and Chrysler will fail......................I just don't quite understand WHY some Americans hope the worst for their fellow Americans -- and yet they buy a car built by "American Honda"

(...let me assure you that it's still "honda" -- a japanese company)

I may lose my job by posting this - but I take the risk because it bothers me that people 'posture' when they don't know what they're talking about..........

I do hope that we can reach an agreement that is beneficial to everyone involved............I pray that happens.

[BLU DUCE]

Originally Posted by Kiss My SS

Im not gonna get into a pissing match with you because your obiously alot bigger and badder on the internet than you really are for sure. But lets just say this, Remember what Ronald Reagan did to the Air Traffic Controllers Unions?... and If Obummer wasnt owned by the unions it could be done again!...Lets keep hope alive Bro!

Yah and he was president of Screen Actors Guild. And he tried too bust the Air Traffic Controllers. He was a good President,but a two faced Union Man. My opinion and my right to say so. From a Truck driving Union man & union family for close to 40 years.

[phantom]

Amazing how folks that supported the great work The Oshawa Team provides so quickly turns when the word Union is inserted into the delivery of a desired vehicle. I'd let the folks in Oshawa negotiate their contract as desired and let the market decide on the economics of the product. Mike and team, thanks again for 2 fantastic vehicles, the second my 12 ZL1.

[Deke736]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

I did not read the entire thread.....but please people - let's stop posturing and making such horrible statements.

To say that all union workers are money hungry is just not right.

And for the record: I do not belong to a Union - I never have - and I don't expect to.

We have a lot of great people in our assembly plants that go to work each and every day and work very hard and do the best possible job - because they have pride in what they do. They know (in the case of Camaro) that they're building a 'dream' -- so much more than 'just a car.'

The problem is that there will always be a small number of individuals that do bad things..........and the result is that an entire group of people get "painted with the same brush" so to speak.

How wrong and how unfortunate.

I think we all need to take a deep breath -- and let the sides negotiate.

Now - i'm going to say something that is MY OPINION - not that of the company for which I work:

Some need to go and look at the landscape as it relates to the auto industry. it is not a level playing field!

Go look at tarriffs that foreign countries put on U.S./Canadian built cars and trucks. Yet we allow them to bring their automobiles into our countries tarriff free.

It STUNS me that there are U.S. citizens that hope that GM and Chrysler will fail......................I just don't quite understand WHY some Americans hope the worst for their fellow Americans -- and yet they buy a car built by "American Honda"

(...let me assure you that it's still "honda" -- a japanese company)

I may lose my job by posting this - but I take the risk because it bothers me that people 'posture' when they don't know what they're talking about..........

I do hope that we can reach an agreement that is beneficial to everyone involved............I pray that happens.

Excellent points! Thank you for sharing your opinion. I feel very much the same way, and I appreciate you putting yourself out there like that to state what may be an unpopular opinion for some.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

I did not read the entire thread.....but please people - let's stop posturing and making such horrible statements.

To say that all union workers are money hungry is just not right.

And for the record: I do not belong to a Union - I never have - and I don't expect to.

We have a lot of great people in our assembly plants that go to work each and every day and work very hard and do the best possible job - because they have pride in what they do. They know (in the case of Camaro) that they're building a 'dream' -- so much more than 'just a car.'

The problem is that there will always be a small number of individuals that do bad things..........and the result is that an entire group of people get "painted with the same brush" so to speak.

How wrong and how unfortunate.

I think we all need to take a deep breath -- and let the sides negotiate.

Now - i'm going to say something that is MY OPINION - not that of the company for which I work:

Some need to go and look at the landscape as it relates to the auto industry. it is not a level playing field!

Go look at tarriffs that foreign countries put on U.S./Canadian built cars and trucks. Yet we allow them to bring their automobiles into our countries tarriff free.

It STUNS me that there are U.S. citizens that hope that GM and Chrysler will fail......................I just don't quite understand WHY some Americans hope the worst for their fellow Americans -- and yet they buy a car built by "American Honda"

(...let me assure you that it's still "honda" -- a japanese company)

I may lose my job by posting this - but I take the risk because it bothers me that people 'posture' when they don't know what they're talking about..........

I do hope that we can reach an agreement that is beneficial to everyone involved............I pray that happens.

Help has arrived ! Camaro world can rest again!

[GbrilliantQ]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

I did not read the entire thread.....but please people - let's stop posturing and making such horrible statements.

To say that all union workers are money hungry is just not right.

And for the record: I do not belong to a Union - I never have - and I don't expect to.

We have a lot of great people in our assembly plants that go to work each and every day and work very hard and do the best possible job - because they have pride in what they do. They know (in the case of Camaro) that they're building a 'dream' -- so much more than 'just a car.'

The problem is that there will always be a small number of individuals that do bad things..........and the result is that an entire group of people get "painted with the same brush" so to speak.

How wrong and how unfortunate.

I think we all need to take a deep breath -- and let the sides negotiate.

Now - i'm going to say something that is MY OPINION - not that of the company for which I work:

Some need to go and look at the landscape as it relates to the auto industry. it is not a level playing field!

Go look at tarriffs that foreign countries put on U.S./Canadian built cars and trucks. Yet we allow them to bring their automobiles into our countries tarriff free.

It STUNS me that there are U.S. citizens that hope that GM and Chrysler will fail......................I just don't quite understand WHY some Americans hope the worst for their fellow Americans -- and yet they buy a car built by "American Honda"

(...let me assure you that it's still "honda" -- a japanese company)

I may lose my job by posting this - but I take the risk because it bothers me that people 'posture' when they don't know what they're talking about..........

I do hope that we can reach an agreement that is beneficial to everyone involved............I pray that happens.

Yeah, I like this guy..

Sent from my Galaxy Note

[Fixer]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

I did not read the entire thread.....but please people - let's stop posturing and making such horrible statements.

To say that all union workers are money hungry is just not right.

And for the record: I do not belong to a Union - I never have - and I don't expect to.

We have a lot of great people in our assembly plants that go to work each and every day and work very hard and do the best possible job - because they have pride in what they do. They know (in the case of Camaro) that they're building a 'dream' -- so much more than 'just a car.'

The problem is that there will always be a small number of individuals that do bad things..........and the result is that an entire group of people get "painted with the same brush" so to speak.

How wrong and how unfortunate.

I think we all need to take a deep breath -- and let the sides negotiate.

Now - i'm going to say something that is MY OPINION - not that of the company for which I work:

Some need to go and look at the landscape as it relates to the auto industry. it is not a level playing field!

Go look at tarriffs that foreign countries put on U.S./Canadian built cars and trucks. Yet we allow them to bring their automobiles into our countries tarriff free.

It STUNS me that there are U.S. citizens that hope that GM and Chrysler will fail......................I just don't quite understand WHY some Americans hope the worst for their fellow Americans -- and yet they buy a car built by "American Honda"

(...let me assure you that it's still "honda" -- a japanese company)

I may lose my job by posting this - but I take the risk because it bothers me that people 'posture' when they don't know what they're talking about..........

I do hope that we can reach an agreement that is beneficial to everyone involved............I pray that happens.

[Sweet Zness]

Originally Posted by Kiss My SS

We got a dictator....

Still a million times better than the assclown buffoon we had, ruining this country for the previous 8 years.....mission accomplished!

[Pappa Joe]

Originally Posted by oldfriend

I will need an explanation from a senior union member on how one can understand that one UNION BOSS in my area have his all family working at the Union Hall and that he made $ 500K per year on the back of the members fees , this happen a few years back , [ 3/4 ] ago , then you would have to add to that all expenses paid to go for [ meetings ] in places like , ARIZONA , LAS VEGAS , PALM DESERT , and others , hey i am all ears .

Well, now your talkin top of food chain! No different than corporation big wigs ,United way.... who have massive parties at fancy Hotels etc and make large sums of cash from peoples donations. I guess you gotta look it this way..If you want top CEO,you gotta pay em. Are Football,Baseball ,Soccer,Hockey players worth the kind of money they make?