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Old 05-11-2019, 09:07 AM   #71
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Black wheels look good on cars like Camaros, Mustangs, Challengers, Corvettes, etc. because it makes them look more aggressive and "purpose-built". Black wheels on normal, everyday cars don't look good, IMO.
I agree. But i do feel certain muscle cars look better with silver wheels and still very aggressive.
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:09 AM   #72
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I'm with you. One of the first things I did was order a set of factory chrome wheels
for my SS when new. Also billet door handles, Dusk edition bezels. A little bling is
definitely an age thing.
Chrome never really been my thing. but yours looks bad ass with your setup. Real classic hot rod look!
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:10 AM   #73
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I like gray. I agree whether it's gray, black or chrome they all look good on certain colors.
I think that grey finish color on ya rims goes the best with red imo. Looks aggressive and clean at the same time. You can actually appreciate the wheel more. sick setup
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:23 AM   #74
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Chrome never really been my thing. but yours looks bad ass with your setup. Real classic hot rod look!
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Old 05-11-2019, 12:16 PM   #75
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The nice thing is that everyone is allowed to have their own preference and taste. If everyone had the same color wheels it would be pretty boring. I've had black wheels and I like them on some colors but since everything else is black on my car I wanted a little bit of contrast.
That car is sexy.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:11 PM   #76
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The holes reduced effectiveness less than slots. Slots and holes reduce surface area thus reducing effectiveness and the slots lose more surface area than the holes so therefore you're logic is skewed. The rotors on our cars are huge so the loss is minimal at best. It literally makes no difference for 99% of us daily driving our cars.

People don't like the holes because in extreme situations they can crack. If you aren't tracking your car or driving like an idiot on public roads it won't make a difference.

They do however increase the looks of the brakes a great deal. They break up the monotonous giant disk and add flair. They also stop quite well. Better than my OEMs I took off.



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My logic is skewed??? You've been smoking the cannibis pipe too long dude. Let me explain it to you again.

The cross-drilled holes reduce the effectiveness of the rotor a lot more than the slots. Actually, slots like dimples are good and can INCREASE the effectiveness of the rotor, at least the initial bite, when braking

You should know this. However, maybe you don't. Lol

The more surface area you have on the rotor, the better the rotor can dissipate the heat from the friction of the brake pads when braking. The result is less fade and increased stopping power. That's why high performance cars have multi piston brake calipers and bigger rotors.

Cross drilled rotors are for looks only. However, they actually diminish the effectiveness of the brakes because you lose rotor material during the cross drilling process and therefore lose the capability of shedding heat as effectively compared to a non cross drilled rotor of the same size.

Brakes 101 man.
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:27 PM   #77
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My logic is skewed??? You've been smoking the cannibis pipe too long dude. Let me explain it to you again.

The cross-drilled holes reduce the effectiveness of the rotor a lot more than the slots. Actually, slots like dimples are good and can INCREASE the effectiveness of the rotor, at least the initial bite, when braking

You should know this. However, maybe you don't. Lol

The more surface area you have on the rotor, the better the rotor can dissipate the heat from the friction of the brake pads when braking. The result is less fade and increased stopping power. That's why high performance cars have multi piston brake calipers and bigger rotors.

Cross drilled rotors are for looks only. However, they actually diminish the effectiveness of the brakes because you lose rotor material during the cross drilling process and therefore lose the capability of shedding heat as effectively compared to a non cross drilled rotor of the same size.

Brakes 101 man.
There is zero difference in surface area loss between dimples and holes. Both lose the same amount. Slots lose more surface area because the literally take up more surface area (geometry).
All were designed to get rid of the gas build up between the pad and rotor during hard braking effectively keeping the pad in contact with the rotor more. This in turn negates the loss of surface area because you can have all the surface area in the world but if the pad doesn't touch the rotor you can't stop effectively. Most modern pads do not out gass as much as the old ones so this isn't as relevant anymore.

The issue with drilled vs dimpled was that drilling through creates a stress riser allowing the rotor to crack under extreme conditions where as a simple dimple or slot does not because it does not have the same characteristics that cause a stress riser (metallurgy).

In either case under normal daily driving none of the above need apply therefore doesn't matter really and we can do as we see fit.

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Old 05-13-2019, 12:14 AM   #78
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There is zero difference in surface area loss between dimples and holes. Both lose the same amount. Slots lose more surface area because the literally take up more surface area (geometry).
All were designed to get rid of the gas build up between the pad and rotor during hard braking effectively keeping the pad in contact with the rotor more. This in turn negates the loss of surface area because you can have all the surface area in the world but if the pad doesn't touch the rotor you can't stop effectively. Most modern pads do not out gass as much as the old ones so this isn't as relevant anymore.
I'm not saying that slots or dimples are better than a completely featureless rotor surface. Slots and dimples are better than cross drilled where you take out rotor material through drilling creating those microscopic stress riser cracks and the loss of heat dissipating rotor material.

Your theory about outgassing taking a priority over lost rotor material through cross drilling is flawed. Don't fall for the advertising propaganda that the cross drilled rotor manufacturers want you to believe. You can manage the outgassing issues with pad designs that have slits manufacturered into them.

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The issue with drilled vs dimpled was that drilling through creates a stress riser allowing the rotor to crack under extreme conditions where as a simple dimple or slot does not because it does not have the same characteristics that cause a stress riser (metallurgy).
I never stated or argued otherwise.

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In either case under normal daily driving none of the above need apply therefore doesn't matter really and we can do as we see fit.
This is not a quesion of what we can do as we see fit. Heck, I couldn't care less if you wanted to put drum brakes on the car because you thought it looked better. The whole point of owning a car like this and being an enthusiast about them is to increase the performance, not downgrade it. If you put cross drilled rotors on and it reduces the effectiveness of the stock brakes, that's working backwards in my opinion.

Cross drilled might look better, but it affects the ability of the rotor to shed heat as effectively compared to a non cross drilled rotor.
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:59 AM   #79
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I'm not saying that slots or dimples are better than a completely featureless rotor surface. Slots and dimples are better than cross drilled where you take out rotor material through drilling creating those microscopic stress riser cracks and the loss of heat dissipating rotor material.

Your theory about outgassing taking a priority over lost rotor material through cross drilling is flawed. Don't fall for the advertising propaganda that the cross drilled rotor manufacturers want you to believe. You can manage the outgassing issues with pad designs that have slits manufacturered into them.



I never stated or argued otherwise.



This is not a quesion of what we can do as we see fit. Heck, I couldn't care less if you wanted to put drum brakes on the car because you thought it looked better. The whole point of owning a car like this and being an enthusiast about them is to increase the performance, not downgrade it. If you put cross drilled rotors on and it reduces the effectiveness of the stock brakes, that's working backwards in my opinion.

Cross drilled might look better, but it affects the ability of the rotor to shed heat as effectively compared to a non cross drilled rotor.
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It’s his car so why are you worried? YES, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO OUR OWN CARS! Your opinion is your opinion...why are you arguing about brakes in a wheel thread?

I like black, polished, and chrome but it depends on the color of the car.
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I had chrome rims on mine and silver stripes plus a few other chrome pieces. Then I decided to go with a different theme. And I like them both.
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^^^^ I like the chrome a lot better. I wish I could afford Torque Thrusts.
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^^^^ I like the chrome a lot better. I wish I could afford Torque Thrusts.
The new ones on the car are Torque Thrust to.
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The new ones on the car are Torque Thrust to.
Good looking car!
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Good looking car!

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