Z28 Higher than SS?

[Mindz]

I'm not quite sure it's a retro theme so much as retro inspired. I always thought the z/28 was the more luxury end of the car, leather seats, sunroof, more options and the SS package was the "go" part of it. Bigger engine, suspension, etc. etc. I know the SS maros of recent years are alot faster stock then the z/28's.

[cabaret2]

U are correct. Of recent years, the SS had hands down, but comparing the two from back in the day the Z/28 was the shiznit!! Seeing as how it is retro inspired, I think it would complete the "inspiration".

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Hmmm. Yup. This was posted waaaay back. I was a little aprehensive at first with Saleen (the Ford guy) and all. When Scott clarified rumors were not true, I dismissed the entire article. Well...we know there was some truth to Saleens message. Now I wonder if he still has anything in the works w/ GM. Heck, I didn't want to see a Saleen Camaro. Now, I'm thinking it might be pretty cool. The more "versions" for us to choose from, the better. 600 supercharged horses??? Might be kinda nice. I seriously wonder how they plan on getting all that power to the ground.:headbang

ok Tag...We usually think alike...except your faster at posting than i am so it seems like I am always copying you....

Here I have to disagree. If you look at the mustang - there are so many different versions of the poor car. It takes away from the essence. If Saleen makes more "versions" of the Camaro to choose from, I would be afraid the same thing might happen to the Camaro......just me:p

[TAG UR IT]

There were actually many versions of the 4th Gen made by many different companies/dealers. It wasn't just a V6, Z28, and SS. Heck, I'm still finding out about them today. I'll go back and find the thread, but it was kinda cool to see all the types. There's a member w/ us who has a red or white 4th Gen, can't recall the name, but he's from the WMCC crowd (WMCC Doug?). His was a special edition as well....loved the car.

I'm not saying make 82 versions of the car. I want a GM made Camaro w/ 3 or 4 different models. V6, V6 hi-po, V8, V8 Z28, V8 SS. But, it's very cool IMO to see the Berger, Tom Henry, etc. That's what I mean. Saleen is just another that would get in there and build a camaro. I think Ford when I think of Saleen, but would love to see what he has in that brain of his for the 5th Gen. Might be kinda cool, you know.

And yes, we do think alike!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=5582#post5582

It was the white "Hot Rod" edition.
Here's a couple more of what I meant...check out the link. This is what I'd like to see.
http://www.gmmginc.net/
Click on the cars link. Gotta love these!!!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Thanks for the links...I see what you're saying now.

[MattD]

Originally Posted by Mindz

I'm not quite sure it's a retro theme so much as retro inspired. I always thought the z/28 was the more luxury end of the car, leather seats, sunroof, more options and the SS package was the "go" part of it. Bigger engine, suspension, etc. etc. I know the SS maros of recent years are alot faster stock then the z/28's.

The SS's were not any faster than the regular Z28. If anything they are a little bit slower because they are heavier due to the wheels, heavier supension, brakes and the like. On a dyno they would put down the same rwhp.

[Kahlis]

I'll take this from someone else's post:

"Any Chevy can be an SS, but only one car can be a Z28."

Enough said.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Very Nice I agree whole heartedly...but I still want SS to be top...if there is an SS on this Car......

[TAG UR IT]

Right now, it could go either way. Then again, it could all be in perception. Z28 being the course racing Camaro and the SS owning the strip. I've owned all three...V6, Z28, and SS. But, I'm kinda partial to the SS nameplate myself. Those in the Camaro crowd who know Camaros (especially 4th Gens), know the SS to be top dog. It could be confusing switching things around for a few. Either way, I'll be fine...because I'll be in one!

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Kahlis

"Any Chevy can be an SS, but only one car can be a Z28."

thats called OWNAGE! lol


v6..<..base v8..<..Z28..<..SS..<..ZR1 = overall rating
300.......400.......450.......500......600 = hp rating

how does that work for everyone?

[AFSNightrod]

I'm up in the air completely. Z28 would fit in with Z06 as being known as top current performance models, along with in the past Z24 Cavalier, Z26 Baretta, Z34 Lumina/Monte Carlo, Z71 Silverados and so on. SS would fit in with the rest of the current cars and truck having SS as their top designation. I think I would prefer Z28 myself. From past history it seems to equal out to SS being the big power street model and the Z designation being the performance suspension track/offroading model. It will be interesting to see how this pans out, as this is a hot debate among enthusiasts. Also thrown into the mix is the designation for the super Vette. As much as magazines tell you it's the Z07 or the SS, there currently is no official name for the car. GM, however, has renewed the trademark on the ZR1 name. That will also be interesting to see how it pans out.

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by AFSNightrod

GM, however, has renewed the trademark on the ZR1 name. That will also be interesting to see how it pans out.

??? When and from whom did you hear this?

And, you both mean ZL1, right? ZR1 is corvette derived. ZL1 is Camaro.

[AFSNightrod]

No I'm talking about ZR-1 for the super Corvette. It was in the May 2007 issue of GM High Tech Performance. I will quote the article from page 10:

"ZR-1 REBORN?
So far it's been called SS, Stingray, Z06, and Blue Devil by enthusiasts and even GM insiders, and now another name can be given to the new super-'Vette: ZR-1. As of November 6, 2006, GM has applied for the ZR-1 name to be trademarked with reference to "G&S: Motor land vehicles, namely automobiles" (G&S stands for goods and services), as well as numerous apparel items such as watches and jackets. Will the LS9-powered 'Vette wear the same badge as the first modern up-level Corvette?"

It could be just to remarket ZR-1 memoribilia or to actually use as the name for the car. It would be really interesting to see what other names GM has trademarked from the past. Like I said in the 'Vette thread about this: It could be a ploy by GM to keep everyone guessing.

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by Mindz

I'm not quite sure it's a retro theme so much as retro inspired. I always thought the z/28 was the more luxury end of the car, leather seats, sunroof, more options and the SS package was the "go" part of it. Bigger engine, suspension, etc. etc. I know the SS maros of recent years are alot faster stock then the z/28's.

Maybe that was how Z/28s ended up being, but that was not their beginning/heritage. The first gen. Z/28s were basically production race cars manufactured so that GM/Chevy could meet SCCA Trans AM requirements to compete in the Trans Am series. They were not available with automatic transmissions, air conditioning, or in a convertible. Designed to be a well handling "sports car" type of suspension with a high revving solid lifter small block (only available as 302 cid), they were pretty much bare bones cars back then, certainly not what I would ever call the "luxury end" of the Camaro. Now perhaps they evolved into that luxury concept in later generations, but I'm certainly looking for a fifth gen. Z/28 that is closer to the original.
Clyde