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[SolomonAKOO]

Lol very true! What about the F14s? Are they a good light wheel as well? I'm looking to get 19" or stay 20" but I want lighter than the stock wheels.

[SolomonAKOO]

Also I know your a PSS guy but do you think of the Bridgestone Potenza RE-11?

[ssmike]

Originally Posted by SolomonAKOO

Lol very true! What about the F14s? Are they a good light wheel as well? I'm looking to get 19" or stay 20" but I want lighter than the stock wheels.

The F14's are lighter than stock. They are rotary forged which is a cast wheel that's heated and spun forged to widen the lip and creates a stronger and lighter wheel than full cast, while keeping the price tag lower than full forged! I have the 9 1/2" front and 10 1/2" rear deep concave and the come in a couple pounds lighter than stock and are wider. Expect to pay under $2K for the set. If you plan on road course tracking go with the 19" because they are lighter. For street you can stick with the 20's! Mine are 20" but now that I'm doing road course HPDE days I wish I had gotten the 19's!

[axis]

Originally Posted by TBone

OK boys, tires 101 from someone who has been through many sets at only 25Kish.

Michelin PSS run wider than Nitto's.
PSS's really stick.
Nitto Invo's are decent for the price, PSS' are better.
Pirelli's, don't make me laugh. I went through those in less than 10K.

Width on rims, you can go as wide as you want if the backspacing is right.
I am running 10"/285 in the front and 11.5/315 in the rear for my track tires.

What tire will fit on what rim does depend on manufacturer. If you read the specs on the manufacturer's web page it will say the recommended size rim you need for their tires.

If you want the best rims get the lightest you can afford. The best are Forgeline, CCW, HRE off the top of my head but you pay for it.

If you read the reviews of the PSS on this site you will not find anyone complaining about them, they are worth the money IMHO. I can break loose my street Invo's with ease, the PSS are much more difficult to break loose.

Bottom line, BUY THE PSS!

If they were crap then why are they standard equipment on the new vettes? Hmmmmmmm.

T.

I definitely agree that if you want the max grip track tire, the PSS is what to get. They have some negatives for those that aren't tracking their car a lot though. They are classified as a summer tire so obviously they won't do as well in the cold. They also don't do as well in the rain. There's also the price. They are a couple hundred more than the many others. Just something to consider for those looking for tires. This was the reason I went with Conti DWS's. While they aren't the best at EVERYTHING, they rate very well in most areas. For a DD that see's a little bit of everything, it's hard to beat them.

[Mydivorcegift]

The PSS is a great rain tire...

That was actually one of the reasons when the first set wore out I bought another.

[axis]

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

The PSS is a great rain tire...

That was actually one of the reasons when the first set wore out I bought another.

It all depends on what you're comparing them to.

[vroomapunk]

Originally Posted by TBone

PSS' are a 300 treadwear rating. If you don't abuse them they should last a long time, longer than the Invo's.

Here is SoCal's review of them. HE has been all over the country to run AutoX in his car and he loves them.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295369

T.

I agree, invos dont have all that great of mileage, and Pss's seem to be better, but the price/mileage is what gets me on those.

Maybe I should get PSSs for the rear, and something cheaper for the fronts? I will only be dragging and DD'ing with the car (in mostly dry weather, def no snow here in LA)

[SolomonAKOO]

Originally Posted by ssmike

The F14's are lighter than stock. They are rotary forged which is a cast wheel that's heated and spun forged to widen the lip and creates a stronger and lighter wheel than full cast, while keeping the price tag lower than full forged! I have the 9 1/2" front and 10 1/2" rear deep concave and the come in a couple pounds lighter than stock and are wider. Expect to pay under $2K for the set. If you plan on road course tracking go with the 19" because they are lighter. For street you can stick with the 20's! Mine are 20" but now that I'm doing road course HPDE days I wish I had gotten the 19's!

Thanks! Well I plan on doing a few road course days but not very many and also plan on going to the strip a bit. So that's why I was leaning more towards the 19".

[ssmike]

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

I agree, invos dont have all that great of mileage, and Pss's seem to be better, but the price/mileage is what gets me on those.

Maybe I should get PSSs for the rear, and something cheaper for the fronts? I will only be dragging and DD'ing with the car (in mostly dry weather, def no snow here in LA)

Invo's are pretty good street tires and do OK on a road course but PSS's will blow them away! I get crappy mileage on the rear Invos I think because the tread depth of the 315/35 rears is less than the 275/40 fronts when brand new. Not to mention aggressive throttle driving will wear them down quicker! If you plan on doing any drag racing you definitely don't want Invo's, they just DON'T hook up at all!

Originally Posted by SolomonAKOO

Thanks! Well I plan on doing a few road course days but not very many and also plan on going to the strip a bit. So that's why I was leaning more towards the 19".

Sounds like a good plan! Hit up NineBall for the F14's! He'll get the offsets perfect and give you a good deal!

[Nightmare2012]

Hey guys im selling my tci 3200 stall tight torque converter for 800+shipping obo it only has around 2000 miles and less than 15 total passes at the drag strip. Converter is currently still in vehicle and will remove as soon as i get a truly interested buyer, Its called the street fighter on their page BTW if anyone wants more info on it.

[SolomonAKOO]

Originally Posted by ssmike

Sounds like a good plan! Hit up NineBall for the F14's! He'll get the offsets perfect and give you a good deal!

Yup already have. I set an email through his website and also a pm on here.

[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by axis

It all depends on what you're comparing them to.

Have you ever owned a set?

Every tire test I've ever read said overall it's the best tire on the market and a clear winner. And yes I know in the C&D test it finished second to the Conti in the wet...

And the corvette having them is awesome and says something but...Bugatti could have put whoever's tire on the Veyron...they chose Michelin and a version of the PSS...to me that closes the discussion on the best overall performance tire...

[TBone]

Originally Posted by axis

They also don't do as well in the rain.

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

The PSS is a great rain tire...

That was actually one of the reasons when the first set wore out I bought another.

Doesn't do well in the rain? Really?
I think they do great in the rain. Take a look at this my friend...

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

I agree, invos dont have all that great of mileage, and Pss's seem to be better, but the price/mileage is what gets me on those.

Maybe I should get PSSs for the rear, and something cheaper for the fronts? I will only be dragging and DD'ing with the car (in mostly dry weather, def no snow here in LA)

BWAAAAHAAAAHAAA.....MPG's?!?! Are you kidding? You are in the WRONG thread brother. Lol.

I also would not suggest two different brands of tires front to rear. The 'puter does not really like it.

Guys, I have been through two sets of Invo's to the one set of PSS' in a year. I run Invo's for my street tires and my PSS are my dedicated track tires now. Invo's are good if you can't afford the PSS but the PSS last longer and are stickier. Again, all my opinion.

I did gain 6-7 seconds at my track, Autobahn, just by changing from the Invo's to PSS. Well, rims too but you get the idea.

BTW, I found this this morning and thought y'all would appreciate it.

Full article and video here, http://jalopnik.com/mustang-at-cars-...-at-1514303344

T.

[ssmike]

T, I think he meant tread wear miles.