I hate the 1LE - Page 7 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Darwood · 04-09-2014, 09:03 PM

1st to 51? Compared to my STi that's long. The OP thread continues to amuse me.

tramtwo · 04-09-2014, 09:12 PM

Well I guess I have to stop posting "everyone loves the 1le" hey it was true for a year and a half...

BUSHMASTER · 04-09-2014, 09:18 PM

Tramtwo you can still say it... You just have to specify that everyone in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA loves the 1LE.

Firefighter · 04-09-2014, 09:20 PM

I was gonna say something but I see it's all been said already... lol

IMHO the 1LE is damn near perfect out of the box. A few things needed to be turned up though.

DSX_Camaro · 04-09-2014, 09:20 PM

>Get new tires
>>Don't get a 1LE

Pretty easy. Honestly I would have gotten a 2SS/RS 1LE but it probably wouldn't have been a good idea. That's a lot of gear in a very fast car. Again, like the first few responses, not for everyone.

toehead93 · 04-09-2014, 09:21 PM

The 1lE gearing is not as drastic as you people think, it is designed to pull a little harder in 3rd and 4th gears by giving up a little in 2nd. The trans gearing makes up for the 3.91 gears. 1st gear in the SS and 1LE are nearly identical at 10.38 vs 10.40 pverall gearing which means first gear tops speeds are 53.37mph vs 51.79mph. If you think that is a big difference i think you are crazy.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270747

markgws6 · 04-09-2014, 09:46 PM

OP, if you are still reading these posts, I test drove a 2013 "standard" manual 2SS before buying my 1LE SS and I never even got to test the 1LE out. The standard 2SS "sucked". Hey if you can complain about the 1LE, I'm gonna complain about the "Standard" 2SS. The ride was "way too soft". I did not feel like I was driving a modern sports car which is what the Camaro is BTW. I had a 1LT/RS Gen 5 and even it had a better ride than the 2013 standard SS in terms of handling. And don't get me started on the shifting or handling of the standard 2SS. I love every single thing about my 1LE and have no remorse whatsoever about buying it. Sure some days I curse at the amount of gas I'm sucking up and sure some days I think the tires are crap in the cold. But you know what, I still want to go drive the hell outta it. And also the roads here in San Jose are some of the worst in the country and I don't think the ride is that harsh. (Although I've driven lowered cars before.)

MarkSS · 04-09-2014, 10:12 PM

Wait..... someone is getting 10,000 miles out of their tires? You must be driving it wrong....

Cooley · 04-10-2014, 06:05 AM

I see two positive outcomes to the OP's hatred of the 1LE:
1. Someone will get and appreciate an almost new 1LE at a good price.
2. A Smart car salesman will make commission from OP in the near future.

SGDM · 04-10-2014, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkSS

Wait..... someone is getting 10,000 miles out of their tires? You must be driving it wrong....

I got 10 K...out of the fronts.

ST1LE · 04-10-2014, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SGDM

I got 10 K...out of the fronts.

And what...500 on the rears? HAHAHA...with that RWHP you are pushing I would think not much at all from the rears.

flyinlow · 04-10-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by madmax13

Missed this post... the 1LE is a great car but yes it can be harsh on the street, especially where I am with broken pavement and potholes galore. But that comes with the territory. Magnetic dampers would be the best of both worlds, wish I could afford them.

Are you basing this on driving around Orlando? I've been to Orlando many times, you have nothing to complain about. Come to Minnesota and drive on our roads that freeze and buckle during the winter. I wish I had roads like yours to drive on.

flyinlow · 04-10-2014, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by madmax13

And also, 1st is annoyingly short. Haven't gotten mine to the track but the close ratio transmission is probably pretty nice there, but on the street, it sucks.

On the 1LE you should only need first gear to start from a dead stop, if you are moving at all just use second gear, plenty of torque to move the car if its already rolling.

RickRay · 04-10-2014, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I agree he could have said it better than he did. I can understand when someone buys something they later regret because it did not meet their expectations to say things they wouldn't normally say out of anger.
I'm just saying let him blow off steam a little, everyone needs to vent sometimes.

We were 14,000 buyers back in 2009 when we bought the Camaro without even trying it. I`m sure there was lots of people that did regret buying it back then for whatever dislikes... IMO

04-09-2014, 09:20 PM	#88
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	I was gonna say something but I see it's all been said already... lol IMHO the 1LE is damn near perfect out of the box. A few things needed to be turned up though. __________________ My Build Thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285054

04-09-2014, 09:20 PM	#89
DSX_Camaro Drives: 2013 SW 2LT/RS LFX/AY6 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,741	>Get new tires >>Don't get a 1LE Pretty easy. Honestly I would have gotten a 2SS/RS 1LE but it probably wouldn't have been a good idea. That's a lot of gear in a very fast car. Again, like the first few responses, not for everyone. __________________ K&N CAI, 1LE Strut Tower Brace, Elite Engineering Catch Can and Clean Side Separator, Apex Scoop w/ Washer Relocation Kit, CTS Front Calipers and Rotors, JacFab Ported Intake Manifold, JacFab Intake Manifold Spacer, 80mm Overkill Throttle Body, SS Brake Lines, Ideal Garage Master Cylinder, Monster Twin Disc Clutch, NPP Retrofit w/ Magnaflow Resonated X, ARH Catless Downpipes, JRE Built 3.45 Diff, 1LE Axles, 1LE Hubs, Overkill Tuned, BMR Anti Wheel-hop Kit Stage I, ACS TL1 Hood Insert, ZL1 Spoiler

04-09-2014, 09:21 PM	#90
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,136 View My Garage	The 1lE gearing is not as drastic as you people think, it is designed to pull a little harder in 3rd and 4th gears by giving up a little in 2nd. The trans gearing makes up for the 3.91 gears. 1st gear in the SS and 1LE are nearly identical at 10.38 vs 10.40 pverall gearing which means first gear tops speeds are 53.37mph vs 51.79mph. If you think that is a big difference i think you are crazy. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270747 __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

04-09-2014, 09:46 PM	#91
markgws6 Drives: 2019 Chevy Equinox Premier AWD Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 1,344 View My Garage	OP, if you are still reading these posts, I test drove a 2013 "standard" manual 2SS before buying my 1LE SS and I never even got to test the 1LE out. The standard 2SS "sucked". Hey if you can complain about the 1LE, I'm gonna complain about the "Standard" 2SS. The ride was "way too soft". I did not feel like I was driving a modern sports car which is what the Camaro is BTW. I had a 1LT/RS Gen 5 and even it had a better ride than the 2013 standard SS in terms of handling. And don't get me started on the shifting or handling of the standard 2SS. I love every single thing about my 1LE and have no remorse whatsoever about buying it. Sure some days I curse at the amount of gas I'm sucking up and sure some days I think the tires are crap in the cold. But you know what, I still want to go drive the hell outta it. And also the roads here in San Jose are some of the worst in the country and I don't think the ride is that harsh. (Although I've driven lowered cars before.) __________________ 2013 AGM 1SS/1LE, NPP, Camera (1 of 43)

04-10-2014, 06:05 AM	#93
Cooley Drives: 2013 2SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bluff City, Baby!!! Posts: 563	I see two positive outcomes to the OP's hatred of the 1LE: 1. Someone will get and appreciate an almost new 1LE at a good price. 2. A Smart car salesman will make commission from OP in the near future. __________________

04-09-2014, 09:03 PM	#85
Darwood Drives: 2014 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Tejas Posts: 187	1st to 51? Compared to my STi that's long. The OP thread continues to amuse me.

04-09-2014, 09:12 PM	#86
tramtwo Drives: 2021 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: N'Awlinz Posts: 6,315	Well I guess I have to stop posting "everyone loves the 1le" hey it was true for a year and a half...

04-09-2014, 09:18 PM	#87
BUSHMASTER Drives: 2013 VR 2SS RS 1LE NPP Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: SAN ANTONIO Posts: 185	Tramtwo you can still say it... You just have to specify that everyone in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA loves the 1LE.

04-09-2014, 10:12 PM	#92
MarkSS Drives: 2014 Z/28 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 412	Wait..... someone is getting 10,000 miles out of their tires? You must be driving it wrong....