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shaffe · 08-25-2012, 12:45 AM

Glad to see the z is starting to perform better in tests. I know a lot of people here think I want it to fail,but I want it to be better.

Bc in the end it forces ford to make a better mustang which in time makes gm build a better camaro and the consumer wins

2012 IngotSilver 5.0 · 08-25-2012, 10:42 AM

I know this test was done in 7/12 from C&D's 8/12 issue, but that wasn't the point.

The point is there's more than one instrumented test that shows the ZL1 is a low 12 sec. car, but because some private owners have yet to become proficient with the vehicle a lot people on this forum continuously rag on it.

And troubling enough, this most often includes Camaro owners.

People also need to stop crying the nonsensical "I'm not a mag racer" whine, because the "mags" actually support faster times than what most individuals are getting right now.

Realizing those people are relatively new to this forum and have low post counts, I'm more than happy to help out and clarify things for them.

Fenderaddict2 · 08-25-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MEDISIN

Judging by the smile on Randy's face, I'm thinking the 911 is in first place followed by the C63. A little bit surprised by the C63 - it's chassis has been called unruly by some reviews but this black edition seems bred for the track. I predict the ZL1 will come out ahead of the Ford but something tells me the BRZ is going to slip ahead of both. The Jaguar and Lamborghini seemed a little twitchy. The Lamborghini boiled its brake fluid, really?
I hope they do the side-by-side drag race on Friday - it's so absurd you have to love it!

"A little bit surprised by the C63 - it's chassis has been called unruly by some reviews" was true, this is the latest modified version. Still wild enough to please Clarkson, but refined enough to actually turn rather than drift through a corner. Love this car myself, just rare as hen's teeth an waaaaaaay outta my snack bracket.

Fenderaddict2 · 08-25-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

FACT is that the BRZ costs less than half of what we spent on our cars and it's undeniably better.

So we both suck.

No arguing against it either since the magazine placed it higher.

Better tires, brake upgrade and a turbo and it would beat the 911. LOL. Being serious though it is a great car to drive in the real world as it's always fun at legal speeds. Wish I could justify one.

L99CAMA2011 · 08-25-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HpJunkie69

I may be wrong but im willing to bet that this drag race wasnt even timed. It was just a shootout for fun to see where the cars would turn out next to each other. Notice that the 1/4 mile & mph are the same exact results they got from the head to head test.

L99CAMA2011 · 08-25-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

Better tires, brake upgrade and a turbo and it would beat the 911. LOL. Being serious though it is a great car to drive in the real world as it's always fun at legal speeds. Wish I could justify one.

I Actually drove the scion version and was highly disappointed. Didn't even handle as well as they claim,

2cnd chance · 08-25-2012, 03:27 PM

If you listen to Randy and look at the numbers (except $$$$$) the AMG and ZL1 seem very close. Now add in the price and you could get a ZL1 and a GT500! I'll take the 2 latter, please.

The IOM Ninja · 08-25-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HpJunkie69

Thats a tough one!! Something about that Benz. Isnt it NA?

Yup it's a Naturally Aspirated 6.2L DOHC 32 Valve V8

Sweet Zness · 08-25-2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

Yup it's a Naturally Aspirated 6.2L DOHC 32 Valve V8

You ever sit in the ****pit of one of those C63's and mash the go pedal? Sounds like pure heaven. Like a real muscle car.

It seems it MB out muscles the muscle cars.

Stephen12ZL1 · 08-25-2012, 09:41 PM

I love AMG's. I owned an '06 S65 AMG with the V12 Twin turbo 604hp/738tq. What a stump puller...gobs of torque. It ran 11.95@120 stock and 11.23@126 with a computer tune by Renntech.

Renegade · 08-25-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

I love AMG's. I owned an '06 S65 AMG with the V12 Twin turbo 604hp/738tq. What a stump puller...gobs of torque. It ran 11.95@120 stock and 11.23@126 with a computer tune by Renntech.

AMG's are a sweet ride indeed. Check out this one.

OldScoolCamaro · 08-25-2012, 10:33 PM

It's all good for the entire elite HP group of cars. I would like to see an as equipped price comparison for the first through last finishing cars, just for grins and giggles.

2cnd chance · 08-25-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Zness

You ever sit in the ****pit of one of those C63's and mash the go pedal? Sounds like pure heaven. Like a real muscle car.

It seems it MB out muscles the muscle cars.

On that note, I'd love to see the 1LE with an LS7. Over 500 HP NA and would take considerable weight off the nose VS. a ZL1.

tfghung · 08-27-2012, 10:11 PM

How did they choose these cars for the test?

If the BRZ is there, why not a MINI Cooper S JCW?

Where are the Ferraris?

08-25-2012, 10:42 AM	#86
2012 IngotSilver 5.0 FIVE.OH Drives: 2016 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 665 View My Garage	I know this test was done in 7/12 from C&D's 8/12 issue, but that wasn't the point. The point is there's more than one instrumented test that shows the ZL1 is a low 12 sec. car, but because some private owners have yet to become proficient with the vehicle a lot people on this forum continuously rag on it. And troubling enough, this most often includes Camaro owners. People also need to stop crying the nonsensical "I'm not a mag racer" whine, because the "mags" actually support faster times than what most individuals are getting right now. Realizing those people are relatively new to this forum and have low post counts, I'm more than happy to help out and clarify things for them. __________________ 2016 Mustang GT 6R80 Magnetic Metallic

08-25-2012, 09:41 PM	#94
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,824	I love AMG's. I owned an '06 S65 AMG with the V12 Twin turbo 604hp/738tq. What a stump puller...gobs of torque. It ran 11.95@120 stock and 11.23@126 with a computer tune by Renntech. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

08-25-2012, 10:33 PM	#96
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	It's all good for the entire elite HP group of cars. I would like to see an as equipped price comparison for the first through last finishing cars, just for grins and giggles. __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

08-25-2012, 12:45 AM	#85
shaffe Drives: 21 Bronco Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Carol Stream Posts: 6,041	Glad to see the z is starting to perform better in tests. I know a lot of people here think I want it to fail,but I want it to be better. Bc in the end it forces ford to make a better mustang which in time makes gm build a better camaro and the consumer wins

08-25-2012, 03:27 PM	#91
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	If you listen to Randy and look at the numbers (except $$$$$) the AMG and ZL1 seem very close. Now add in the price and you could get a ZL1 and a GT500! I'll take the 2 latter, please.

08-27-2012, 10:11 PM	#98
tfghung Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 215	How did they choose these cars for the test? If the BRZ is there, why not a MINI Cooper S JCW? Where are the Ferraris?