Can you wait for the top versions/models?

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by Z284ever

Yes, I know it to be fact.....why else would I post it.
To make us...
just continue posting round and round in circles.

Originally Posted by blindingillusion

You sound way to assured of anything you post.

I realize they are building mostly V8 versions at release, but what stops them from throwing the performance model in with the mix at the beginning. eh?! Don't you dare crush my dreams... or I will crush your knees.

Originally Posted by Z284ever

Crush my knees? Please. That's a Chicago specialty.
Even more...

It's not just a matter of "throwing" the performance model into the mix. The Z/28 will require more developement by a specific team.

Also, it probably doesn't make sense from a marketing perspective to rollout all the models all at once.

And I agree to both of these points.

Originally Posted by Z284ever

Do you really think Chevy will have any trouble selling all the Camaros that they can build the first 12-18 months of production?

Besides, like you said, I'm betting the available at launch SS, will clean the SRT8's clock.

And that, it will.

I won't disagree with you on the Z28 being top dog issue. I have good knowledge that it will be top dog as well. Of course, this knowledge of how the message was conveyed wasn't exactly, "the Z28 will be top dog." You know...

But, even with that fact, I won't go and say it for fact unless I know it for fact.... Which means, IMO, you claim to know it for fact and would then have probably been told the fact. As a matter of fact, the fact is, I would very much like to know the fact of how you obtained your fact.

[GothamCamaro]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

But, even with that fact, I won't go and say it for fact unless I know it for fact.... Which means, IMO, you claim to know it for fact and would then have probably been told the fact. As a matter of fact, the fact is, I would very much like to know the fact of how you obtained your fact.

Huh?

[smokn']

so i'm confused, what's his face has already said there will be an ss(in that video that was just discovered recently). so for you z28ites, are you suggesting there will be both an ss and a z? or are you just refusing to accept the supposed ss?

[LS9CamaroSS]

Originally Posted by smokn'

here we go with this age old battle! in my opinion, the ss was and still is the one. look at 1969. there were 20,302 z/28's built, but only 13,970 ss's were built. we all agree that the hp ratings were complete farces, so i won't try to say the z had the stated 290, it dynoed closer to 400. the ss was stated at 375 [B]rwhp[B]. there's no telling if it was undershot, but that was rear wheel, so in truth, they were probably very close, regardless of the z's 94 less ci. however, to make it more complicated, the z was $3185 while the ss was $3100. but wait, there's more, the z ran the 0-60 in 7.4 with a 15.12 1/4 at 94.8 mph. the ss did an impressive 6.8 0-60 with a 14.7 1/4 at 98.7 mph. so what makes the decision? hp is hard to say, rarity the ss wins, prices the z was more, engine size the ss takes it, and speed the ss takes it. it's really pretty close, but i would have to say the ss, just cuz nothing says good ol' chevy power like them 2 crooked letters! but to each his own!
sorry, i just had to get all that out. i got my #'s from howstuffworks.com

no one on here ever gives props to the 2nd gen camaro!!!! that is what irks me!!! anyone remember how sick the 70 z looked with the RS package on it?! that was a 350 with the best handling of any camaro up to that time... that year the Z's engine made more power than the base SS 360hp for the Z and 300hp for the SS. They made the same 380ft/lb of torque, but the z had the handling to back it up... i just wish that GM had put the 454 in the Camaro SS that year... that would have been one sick ride that would have lifted the nose off the ground stock... this is all according to nastyz28.com the best 2nd gen camaro site on the planet

http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro70.php

[The_Blur]

I just had a thought for those who want to wait. Something better will come around. Think about it. This car is bringing back a better version of what was the Camaro. If someone in 2002 knew about something that was coming out in 2005, they would have waited 3 years for it, just like we're waiting now. Why wait? In 2012, the Camaro will have some sort of tweak. They'll change the radio or the hood or something that changes the car. By 2015, they'll probably be releasing another generation of the Camaro with a few more horses and trim changes. You could get one in 2010, but if you wait till 2015, something better might be coming. Are you really willing to wait another uncertain amount of time before finally accepting that it's the best in its class? It's not going to get much better out of the factory. Even if I'm wrong, you could match that power yourself and call it an upgraded clone. Don't wait. Get one now. Enjoy it. When the next generation comes out, I'm sure you'll love it, too.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by smokn'

so i'm confused, what's his face has already said there will be an ss(in that video that was just discovered recently). so for you z28ites, are you suggesting there will be both an ss and a z? or are you just refusing to accept the supposed ss?

Bingo! Or should I say...no, just 'bingo'.

The strongest 'rumors'/speculation to date is this:

The 'Average', 'normal', 'everyday' (I use those terms very loosely. There's nothing normal about 400 hp) V8; otherwise known as 'the base V8' will be the SS.
Then the GT-500 fighter, the limited production one, the car that everyone expects to see Forced Induction on, the "Top Dog", will be the Z28.

Of course, these are still just speculation as far as I'm concerned...but it's the most likely outcome.

Confused still??

[My-302-Z28]

Originally Posted by LS9CamaroSS

no one on here ever gives props to the 2nd gen camaro!!!! that is what irks me!!! anyone remember how sick the 70 z looked with the RS package on it?! that was a 350 with the best handling of any camaro up to that time... that year the Z's engine made more power than the base SS 360hp for the Z and 300hp for the SS. They made the same 380ft/lb of torque, but the z had the handling to back it up... i just wish that GM had put the 454 in the Camaro SS that year... that would have been one sick ride that would have lifted the nose off the ground stock... this is all according to nastyz28.com the best 2nd gen camaro site on the planet

http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro70.php

All good points about 2nd gen. The 70 1/2 RS-Z/28 model was awesome. And speaking of the 454, I had a 70 SS a long time ago that we dropped a factory crate LS7 460hp in it, and it did lift the front tires. What a ride !

[TAG UR IT]

I'm sure there will be both the SS and Z28...Z28 being top dog.

[LDiablo]

no one on here ever gives props to the 2nd gen camaro!!!! that is what irks me!!!

Amen to that. Second gen was underrated. My best friend's '74 LT with a 383 stroker was awesome. (If only he'd stopped at that stop sign... sigh). And while this IS a Camaro community, can't deny the Firebirds a la Smokey and the Bandit. I can hear Jerry Reed's banjos now... hard to be a child of the Seventies and not still have a weak spot for a T-tops bird.

[LS9CamaroSS]

Originally Posted by LDiablo

Amen to that. Second gen was underrated. My best friend's '74 LT with a 383 stroker was awesome. (If only he'd stopped at that stop sign... sigh). And while this IS a Camaro community, can't deny the Firebirds a la Smokey and the Bandit. I can hear Jerry Reed's banjos now... hard to be a child of the Seventies and not still have a weak spot for a T-tops bird.

i actually once saw a later 70's camaro (78-81) that a guy made into a convertible... it looked... interesting to say the least... i like the 70-74 and 77-78 model years. definitely the best run of the camaro (it was the longest so we have a good argument here!) one of the only if not the only run that for at least one year bested the mustang's sales!!!! 2nd gen forever!!!!!!

[radz28]

I've been thinking about this more-and-more and have come to the conclusion, IMHO, that the SS had always been a top-dog; I am still a Z-fan though I mean, it was always the bruiser of the line-up, and to my knowledge and recollection, carried the higher price tag. The Z28 was always more nimble and a better handler that would bob-and-weave, whereas the SS would just sock you in the mouth. I can forsee an SS being the top-dog even though I'd prefer the Z28. I don't think they are going to bring back any old ZL1 or other COPO-like monikers. I definately don't see anything wrong with cross-breeding Z28/SS/RS packages though. Z28 handling, SS power, and RS appearance. I personally just want the bruiser but the more options the better, IMHO.

[LS9CamaroSS]

Originally Posted by radz282003

I've been thinking about this more-and-more and have come to the conclusion, IMHO, that the SS had always been a top-dog; I am still a Z-fan though I mean, it was always the bruiser of the line-up, and to my knowledge and recollection, carried the higher price tag. The Z28 was always more nimble and a better handler that would bob-and-weave, whereas the SS would just sock you in the mouth. I can forsee an SS being the top-dog even though I'd prefer the Z28. I don't think they are going to bring back any old ZL1 or other COPO-like monikers. I definately don't see anything wrong with cross-breeding Z28/SS/RS packages though. Z28 handling, SS power, and RS appearance. I personally just want the bruiser but the more options the better, IMHO.

i guess that it is a matter of definition of what "top dog" means. if it means all around performance i'd have to say that even the 5.0L 67-69 Camaro Z/28 would take that award. it didn't have the top end pull that some cars had back then, but it sure as hell did accelerate faster than most. the handling just made the car that much better. However if you mean "top dog" as in who had the more ponies then it was the SS every time. It all really depends on what you value more performance wise. if you want the well rounded vehicle then you want the Z ( ) if you want omigawd power and torque you go with the SS and a few different sets of shoes every year cuz you know that many ponies will tear up any tire you put on the car...

[LadiesMan217]

Here's a question...

I'm very much planning on getting a V8 'vert. Currently I have a '07 Avalanche and an Infiniti M35 (which is leased). The lease on the Infiniti is up in November '09. If I do the math correctly, that's "9 months after the coupe goes on sale."

So, I plan on walking away from the lease on the Infiniti and going with the Camaro. My problem is that I need two vehicles (myself and future wife) and there will, most likely, be a waiting list. I can't pre-order one because I won't know if there are going to be any dues needed with the lease end and I probably won't be able to put that much down on one prior to getting rid of the Infiniti...and if I don't preorder...I'll probably be stuck without a second vehicle for a couple months or more!

Any advice?

(BTW, I have financed the Avalanche and plan on doing that with the Camaro...I don't think I'd ever lease again).

I didn't feel like starting a new thread and this thread was about waiting...and I'll be waiting for the vert...not necessarily the SS though.

[radz28]

I could've swore I've read that some dealers are taking deposits as low as $1K. I can't afford something like that right now, but maybe by then you could, and probably find a dealer willing to work with you on that deposit.

LS9CamaroSS - you articulated my thoughts better than I did. I meant top-dog as best accelerating bruiser of the bunch. Where acceleration was number one, and handling number two.

As far as the tires, Summitomo makes a pretty crappy tire that is cheap. If I want good track times, I have some Mickey Thompson ET Street shoes I can slap on her