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jcampos · 11-08-2015, 04:37 PM

@StainTrain416, do not bash Camaro's on its forum. Simply state what your issue is but don't make it out to be a POS. Because Camaro5 does not need people like you especially as you stated, "I don't post on here much as you can probably tell" leads me to believe either you're a TROLL or you are completely anti-Camaro.

So, i leave you with that kind sir have a great day!

paul84043 · 11-08-2015, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TDevilsG

Mustang
-dramatically lighter and faster. Several hundred pound difference.

Not any more.
2015 Mustang GT with the Track Pack and Camaro 1LE, only 72 pounds difference.

Going Independent on the rear added weight but fixed a very long standing problem.

Straight line performance is a consistent dead heat. Anything with a turn and the Camaro walks all over the Mustang.

LynxSSavage · 11-09-2015, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JLSuperfly

Submarines have better visibility than a Camaro.

I haven't had a problem with the visibility. Watching too many reviews had me totally paranoid about the blind spot. Once I set up my mirrors as aI normally do, blind spot, gone.

drew peacock · 11-09-2015, 09:14 AM

mustang is a ford ffs...that is enough reason to steer well clear of it...if u intend to go fast or round corners than the s197 is a big no no..if u intend to go round corners and go over 100mph safely then the camaro is the car to buy

102SS · 11-09-2015, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LynxSSavage

I haven't had a problem with the visibility. Watching too many reviews had me totally paranoid about the blind spot. Once I set up my mirrors as aI normally do, blind spot, gone.

You get spots at certain angles when turning.

My 4th Gens had better visibility.

Outlaw77 · 11-09-2015, 12:22 PM

For me it was the LS3. Great performance out stock and takes to mods really well. I have modded every car I owned so I knew I would need a solid platform as I knew I would be modding it.

The other thing that sold me was the narrow windows. I really liked the narrow visibility for some reason. Still do.

LynxSSavage · 11-09-2015, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 102SS

You get spots at certain angles when turning.

My 4th Gens had better visibility.

Guess I have just been lucky so far. I haven't really noticed them to the point of being what I expected given the reviews.

I do look around more than I did in my RX-8. That is for sure. So perhaps my statement of 'gone' was too dramatic, but it isn't as bad for me, personally, as it was made out to be. LOL

Battlezone580 · 11-09-2015, 04:44 PM

The 2013 mustang is great, the coyote engine is very nice. The SS is a great car to, I loved my 2012 SS very reliable and a lot of fun to drive. LS engines are always great platforms as well and can handle mods like I'm sure the coyote can.

In the end of the day buy the car you like better and what makes you more happy.

BlkCamaroVert · 11-09-2015, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

The throttle response in my 100% bone-stock (except for wheels) 2012 Camaro 1SS is, overall, worse than the throttle response in my 1970 Buick.

The Buick is carbureted and it has better throttle response. You won't get a lot of "here's a bad thing about Camaros" here, but I'm not real shy.

That's easily fixed. http://www.vitesse-motorsports.com/t...010-camaro.htm

CamaroCracka · 11-10-2015, 09:01 AM

A VTC won't make an LS3 have 500+ lbft of torque out of the hole. Stage I Buicks have won the Fastest Muscle Car Shootout over hemis, Formula 400s, LS6es and the like. The 70 GS was arguably the quickest car of it's day, and that is coming from a Mopar guy. The good news in the 80s was you never saw them because they were pretty rare and hipo parts were not easy to come by for them.

Normagene · 11-10-2015, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by paul84043

Not any more.

2015 Mustang GT with the Track Pack and Camaro 1LE, only 72 pounds difference.

Going Independent on the rear added weight but fixed a very long standing problem.

Straight line performance is a consistent dead heat. Anything with a turn and the Camaro walks all over the Mustang.

The 2016 350GT and R

I haven't found any articles with track times. I'd like to see the numbers the new GT350 & the R are putting down. Like to see them compared to Camaro times.

Fords goal was/is for this Mustang to be a damn good track car, good in the turns and acceleration/braking. Pricing is well under Z/28 for the R. 50K for the GT + $6,500 for the track pack. The R is $7,000 above that, so it starts at $63,495.

Peak output of 526 HP @ 7,500 RPMs. Redline at 8,250. The article I just read estimates 0 to 60 time of 3.7 sec and top speed of 175 mph.

Normagene · 11-13-2015, 10:32 AM

Oh, forgot to mention that the GT R edition also comes with factory Carbon-Fiber 19' wheels. 15 pounds lighter than the aluminum wheel.

Normagene · 11-21-2015, 11:07 AM

Just finished reading the cover story on the Dec issue of Car & Driver, New Camaro vs Mustang. Still haven't found an actual track comparison, but this article was decent.

Price as Tested: Camaro SS $47,480 - and the Mustang: $43,070

They easily chose the Camaro over the Mustang. It's just more of a Muscle car and performs better. Quicker, better in the turns, and sounds like a Muscle Car should.

0-60 in 3.9 vs 4.4 for the mustang.
1/4 mile @ 12.3 sec @ 116 vs 13.0 sec @ 112.

Great numbers, those are about the same as my ZL1, for 10K less. Pretty impressive.

snarky · 11-21-2015, 11:19 AM

i've owned a couple of mustangs. *yawn

this thread tho...

11-09-2015, 04:44 PM	#92
Battlezone580 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE, 1969 Nova SS 396 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 790 View My Garage	The 2013 mustang is great, the coyote engine is very nice. The SS is a great car to, I loved my 2012 SS very reliable and a lot of fun to drive. LS engines are always great platforms as well and can handle mods like I'm sure the coyote can. In the end of the day buy the car you like better and what makes you more happy. __________________ 18 ZL1 1LE\|M6\|Nav\|PDR\|CF Hood\|CF WING\|CF Dash\|Tow Hook\|

11-10-2015, 09:01 AM	#94
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 3,042	A VTC won't make an LS3 have 500+ lbft of torque out of the hole. Stage I Buicks have won the Fastest Muscle Car Shootout over hemis, Formula 400s, LS6es and the like. The 70 GS was arguably the quickest car of it's day, and that is coming from a Mopar guy. The good news in the 80s was you never saw them because they were pretty rare and hipo parts were not easy to come by for them. __________________ 2010 SS - Kind of an On3 kit, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1 brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. Gen6 ZL1 brakes. Last edited by CamaroCracka; 11-10-2015 at 09:53 AM.

11-21-2015, 11:19 AM	#98
snarky ultracrepidarianism Drives: '14 1SS/RS/1LE/NPP '18 Accord Sport Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: where folks drive like shit Posts: 1,297	i've owned a couple of mustangs. *yawn this thread tho... __________________

11-08-2015, 04:37 PM	#85
jcampos Drives: 2014 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: San Antonio Posts: 821	@StainTrain416, do not bash Camaro's on its forum. Simply state what your issue is but don't make it out to be a POS. Because Camaro5 does not need people like you especially as you stated, "I don't post on here much as you can probably tell" leads me to believe either you're a TROLL or you are completely anti-Camaro. So, i leave you with that kind sir have a great day!

11-09-2015, 09:14 AM	#88
drew peacock Banned Drives: 2012 2SS INFERNO ORANGE Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: sweden Posts: 1,841	mustang is a ford ffs...that is enough reason to steer well clear of it...if u intend to go fast or round corners than the s197 is a big no no..if u intend to go round corners and go over 100mph safely then the camaro is the car to buy

11-09-2015, 12:22 PM	#90
Outlaw77 Drives: 2018 Charger SRT 392 F8 Green Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Oakville Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,910	For me it was the LS3. Great performance out stock and takes to mods really well. I have modded every car I owned so I knew I would need a solid platform as I knew I would be modding it. The other thing that sold me was the narrow windows. I really liked the narrow visibility for some reason. Still do.

11-13-2015, 10:32 AM	#96
Normagene Drives: 2013 Ashen Gray M6 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 2,615 View My Garage	Oh, forgot to mention that the GT R edition also comes with factory Carbon-Fiber 19' wheels. 15 pounds lighter than the aluminum wheel.

11-21-2015, 11:07 AM	#97
Normagene Drives: 2013 Ashen Gray M6 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 2,615 View My Garage	Just finished reading the cover story on the Dec issue of Car & Driver, New Camaro vs Mustang. Still haven't found an actual track comparison, but this article was decent. Price as Tested: Camaro SS $47,480 - and the Mustang: $43,070 They easily chose the Camaro over the Mustang. It's just more of a Muscle car and performs better. Quicker, better in the turns, and sounds like a Muscle Car should. 0-60 in 3.9 vs 4.4 for the mustang. 1/4 mile @ 12.3 sec @ 116 vs 13.0 sec @ 112. Great numbers, those are about the same as my ZL1, for 10K less. Pretty impressive.