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2cnd chance · 09-09-2011, 03:40 PM

I dont find it necessary. The ZL1 will do it with extra power and electronics. My Z28 will do it with me.

JusticePete · 09-09-2011, 03:53 PM

I am putting my faith in the 'off the shelf' LS7. The one they plan to put in the Vette. Rumor has it the C7 would have a 570 HP 525 TQ LS7. Given that these numbers are pure speculation by various print and Internet 'news' sources it may be pure fiction. On the other hand, since I am connecting the dots...... GM has the ability to build a LS7 close to the same power as an LSA.... This would reduce weight up front, reduce heat, reduce heat soak.... it all depends on how you read the ZL1 information. I seem to remember reading it would never have this kind of power.....

At least that is what Flounder tells me.

2cnd chance · 09-09-2011, 04:16 PM

#3 said it was near maxed at current HP levels???

JusticePete · 09-09-2011, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

#3 said it was near maxed at current HP levels???

Wasn't that the company line on the LSA

Pontiac tore T2 SCCA with the Solstice. It had to be the drivers because those engines were near maxed out at current HP when they left the factory.

LOWDOWN · 09-09-2011, 04:41 PM

Pete, your "observations" match my "perception" of what contacts have "hinted/suggested/[fill in blanks]"...

The hood deal may just be a poor-fitting one-off pilot-piece...or...??

Wixom needs "help"...we've covered that, and Corvette's flatline emphasizes that...

4199 freakin' pounds for the ZL1?! What I suspected, but kinda disappointing at the same time...after "assurances" by some, and "flames" from others, at suggesting such "heresy" as a possible-4200 lb. result, loaded...

I'd say the "case" for a mid-$40s (priced 'tween the now-inevitable mid-$50s ZL1 and 2SS), well under-4,000 lb., with LS7 motor-vation and BOSS-bashing reflexes is stronger than ever...

But, again, what do I know?

Stay tuned...we're passing the "summer of discontent"...no likely signs of a fall harvest...we NEED a winter planting for spring blossoms and summer growth!!

How metaphoric...as opposed to EUPHORIC...

EDIT:

There's at least as much "room to grow" with a 505 hp LS7 as there is with a 426 hp LS3... "Maxed" at 505? Not hardly...

OldScoolCamaro · 09-09-2011, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

My guess is they are fighting heat soak.

Roger that Pete,...errr, I mean 2.99

, looks to me like it was a hasty modification done "on the fly" without alot of fuss or muss right then and there while they were trying something out.

2cnd chance · 09-12-2011, 03:29 PM

So what % of the now ZL1 buyers will be looking for a mid $40's Z28 when the ZL1's $$,$$$. is announced?

JusticePete · 09-12-2011, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

Roger that Pete,...errr, I mean 2.99

, looks to me like it was a hasty modification done "on the fly" without alot of fuss or muss right then and there while they were trying something out.

Reminds me of the holes that were drilled in the hood for for early ZL1 testing. I like th gitr' done approach

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-12-2011, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

So what % of the now ZL1 buyers will be looking for a mid $40's Z28 when the ZL1's $$,$$$. is announced?

Not this one.

It's either ZL1 or THR SS for me at this point....C'mon Chevy - price it right!! (for me

)

2cnd chance · 09-12-2011, 10:28 PM

If a Z28 was available in the next 9 months with an LS7 would that change your mind?

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-12-2011, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

If a Z28 was available in the next 9 months with an LS7 would that change your mind?

It would depend how they do it. I'm addicted already to all the gadgetry and power of the ZL1....and the custom-appeal/value of the THR-SS. But if it were able to be in my driveway at the end of April...maybe. Just maybe.

JusticePete · 09-13-2011, 05:55 PM

#2.99: The SS is not the car you are looking for.

Dragoneye: I don't want a SS.

#2.99: A Z/28 with an LS7 is the Car of your dreams.

Dragoneye: The Z/28 with an LS7 is the car of my dreams.

#2.99: Go about your business and order a Z/28.

Dragoneye: I have to call the business office and order my Z/28.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-13-2011, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

#2.99: The SS is not the car you are looking for.

Dragoneye: I don't want a SS.

#2.99: A Z/28 with an LS7 is the Car of your dreams.

Dragoneye: The Z/28 with an LS7 is the car of my dreams.

#2.99: Go about your business and order a Z/28.

Dragoneye: I have to call the business office and order my Z/28.

Are you calling me weak-minded, Pete?!

JusticePete · 09-13-2011, 06:02 PM

Z/28 addiction is a popular model to explain automotive lust — uncontrollable urges, behaviors, or thoughts that appear extreme in frequency or feel out of one's control. Z/28 addiction, particularly with an LS7 is typically associated with lowered inhibitions, premium fuel and tire smoke and like some drugs can affect a person's social and purchasing decisions.

#2.99 exploited your lust. I had nothing to do with it.

09-09-2011, 04:41 PM	#999
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	Pete, your "observations" match my "perception" of what contacts have "hinted/suggested/[fill in blanks]"... The hood deal may just be a poor-fitting one-off pilot-piece...or...?? Wixom needs "help"...we've covered that, and Corvette's flatline emphasizes that... 4199 freakin' pounds for the ZL1?! What I suspected, but kinda disappointing at the same time...after "assurances" by some, and "flames" from others, at suggesting such "heresy" as a possible-4200 lb. result, loaded... I'd say the "case" for a mid-$40s (priced 'tween the now-inevitable mid-$50s ZL1 and 2SS), well under-4,000 lb., with LS7 motor-vation and BOSS-bashing reflexes is stronger than ever... But, again, what do I know? Stay tuned...we're passing the "summer of discontent"...no likely signs of a fall harvest...we NEED a winter planting for spring blossoms and summer growth!! How metaphoric...as opposed to EUPHORIC... EDIT: There's at least as much "room to grow" with a 505 hp LS7 as there is with a 426 hp LS3... "Maxed" at 505? Not hardly... Last edited by LOWDOWN; 09-09-2011 at 04:52 PM.

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09-09-2011, 03:40 PM	#995
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	I dont find it necessary. The ZL1 will do it with extra power and electronics. My Z28 will do it with me.

09-09-2011, 03:53 PM	#996
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,171	I am putting my faith in the 'off the shelf' LS7. The one they plan to put in the Vette. Rumor has it the C7 would have a 570 HP 525 TQ LS7. Given that these numbers are pure speculation by various print and Internet 'news' sources it may be pure fiction. On the other hand, since I am connecting the dots...... GM has the ability to build a LS7 close to the same power as an LSA.... This would reduce weight up front, reduce heat, reduce heat soak.... it all depends on how you read the ZL1 information. I seem to remember reading it would never have this kind of power..... At least that is what Flounder tells me.

09-09-2011, 04:16 PM	#997
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	#3 said it was near maxed at current HP levels???

09-12-2011, 03:29 PM	#1001
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	So what % of the now ZL1 buyers will be looking for a mid $40's Z28 when the ZL1's $$,$$$. is announced?

09-12-2011, 10:28 PM	#1004
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	If a Z28 was available in the next 9 months with an LS7 would that change your mind?

09-13-2011, 05:55 PM	#1006
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,171	#2.99: The SS is not the car you are looking for. Dragoneye: I don't want a SS. #2.99: A Z/28 with an LS7 is the Car of your dreams. Dragoneye: The Z/28 with an LS7 is the car of my dreams. #2.99: Go about your business and order a Z/28. Dragoneye: I have to call the business office and order my Z/28.

09-13-2011, 06:02 PM	#1008
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,171	Z/28 addiction is a popular model to explain automotive lust — uncontrollable urges, behaviors, or thoughts that appear extreme in frequency or feel out of one's control. Z/28 addiction, particularly with an LS7 is typically associated with lowered inhibitions, premium fuel and tire smoke and like some drugs can affect a person's social and purchasing decisions. #2.99 exploited your lust. I had nothing to do with it.