Potential Huge Problem.... 2010 Camaro Nose Cracks (UPDATE: NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL!)

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by Silver Streak

I don't know. I have had a brand new vehicle that is built for performance, but when you take any car at 155mph, things happen. First time I hit 155mph my wheel well caved in on me, and by no means was this a car that was not bult good. If you are traveling at these speeds and expect not to be fixing your car, I think you definately are going to be bummed out. GM has tested these cars at high speeds I assure you, and to act like GM is the only one to release a car to find there is a issue after the fact. Well you have been very misinformed. Yes GM should look into this, but let's stop being unrealistic. You play you pay and that is rule of thumb with fast cars. The responses in this post are over the top. Find me a any model that did not have issues the 1st year, there always is! And to say that GM should have found this before release as if the testing they did was not substancial enough to find flaws, gimme a break. There is constructive critisism, and there is just plain old bitchin, and bitchin is alot of what I see in this thread. If it keeps happening and GM does nothing then by all means bitch, but until then you need to be realistic in your demands!

Sorry but I disagree.

Doing 155mph should not cause any damage to the car.

As mentioned early, I've gone over 150mph many times in my last 6 vehicles I've owned (stage 4 WRX, stage 2 STi, 94z28, 99z28, 05 GTO, 06 GTO) and I've never had any issues or damage.

The Camaro SS should be able to hit 155mph on a regular basis without any damage to the car.

[EVS Motors Inc.]

GM, what are we going to do with you. Bankruptcy and Reorganizing may be the best idea yet. Remember when GM apologized for betraying America? They apologized for delivering below industry standard cars? Here we go again, even after the Corvette fiasco of flying hardtops.

Wait until the next Texas Mile event, that will let us know if this is a major issue or not! But it would be funny if no Camaros show up because of this thread.

[Silver Streak]

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Sorry but I disagree.

Doing 155mph should not cause any damage to the car.

As mentioned early, I've gone over 150mph many times in my last 6 vehicles I've owned (stage 4 WRX, stage 2 STi, 94z28, 99z28, 05 GTO, 06 GTO) and I've never had any issues or damage.

The Camaro SS should be able to hit 155mph on a regular basis without any damage to the car.

Because you didn't have damage does that mean it didn't happen to another car of the same model, hell another 30 mph and you can go airborne. That is a whole lot of force and the car I hit 155mph and faster with was 2006 Evo MR a very well built car. We have one piece of evidence to this happening. If you took 10,000 WRX's or GTO's and traveled 155mph I bet that at least one of those cars will have problems if not many more. This is jumping the gun!

[Andro]

Jeez whats next?

[drivingincamaro]

Originally Posted by Andro

Jeez whats next?

idk


i hope this is a ctf car

[camarossrs2150]

[QUOTE=Krazy and old;453544]Check out this edit I did. I noticed a smaller stress type crack on the pic too.[/QUO
do they know what the speed was when it started to crack all they know is it topped out at 155. did it start cracking at 120to125 or 130to135 all they know is it hit 155 this is a concern for everybody .hey one day you might say to yourself hey im going to go fast today because your buddy wants to feel some ****ing speed and you tell him you cant because your car might self destruct we all have a big concern .ive owned to this present day 18 gm cars .and they all **** up and i still buyem .but this is a issue .also lets see if there any other ones in the future hopefully its just this one .they have to test everycar now at 155 i dont know if everycar has to .i dont even remember what im writing it about its got me pissed off

[Riderover40]

Wow! It does not take much to get this forum in a tivy! GM will address this cracking issue. We do not know what it is and GM sure as hell doesn't either. If they do it may have been addressed already. It will get looked after I assure you all. Sure it will irratate the owner, if I had my car now and it cracked I would be scratching my head......for sure I wouldn't make an big deal of it unless GM did not look after it and from my experience I know that Chevrolet will come to the plate! Give the big guy a chance eh!

[Ghost Rider]

These are major cracks after only a couple of high speed runs on a new car. These weren't sustained high speeds and the cracks aren't small, indicating that cracking probably started when the car was well below 155mph and progressed as the speed increased.

This tells me that cracking can begin almost immediately once the total wind force on the facia (vehicle speed + head wind) gets anywhere over say 100 mph, and certainly well below 155mph. I would think that one long distance trip at highway speed, into a decent head wind, could cause this type of failure. certainly over time, with vibration and repeated use, there is a substantial risk of this type of failure even under normal use.

These cracks are telling us that this is a weak point, prone to failure, immediately at high speed, or over time, under normal use.

Wind testing alone may not have revealed the problem. It could easily be a combination of wind speed and vehicle vibration that you don't get in a wind tunnel. GM needs to look into it, discover the cause and come up with a fix.

And don't tell me its no big deal because it will be covered under warranty. That's crap. Who wants to have to take their car into the shop, have a new faica put on, new paint applied, maybe it matches, maybe it doesn't? Who wants that hassle.

That's like discovering that the engine will blow up after 10,000 miles. But don't worry about it, we'll fix it under warranty. Yeah right. Happy day.

If its a problem, fix it now.

[bcudm]

I think the important thing here is that I ordered a 1LT and I'm pretty sure they have slightly different front facia than the SS... maybe they won't have this issue?

[camarossrs2150]

Originally Posted by bcudm

I think the important thing here is that I ordered a 1LT and I'm pretty sure they have slightly different front facia than the SS... maybe they won't have this issue?

maybe pigs can really fly to. we all just need to wait and hear from the head man on this thread

[Silver Streak]

Originally Posted by Ghost Rider

These are major cracks after only a couple of high speed runs on a new car. These weren't sustained high speeds and the cracks aren't small, indicating that cracking probably started when the car was well below 155mph and progressed as the speed increased.

This tells me that cracking can begin almost immediately once the total wind force on the facia (vehicle speed + head wind) gets anywhere over say 100 mph, and certainly well below 155mph. I would think that one long distance trip at highway speed, into a decent head wind, could cause this type of failure. certainly over time, with vibration and repeated use, there is a substantial risk of this type of failure even under normal use.

These cracks are telling us that this is a weak point, prone to failure, immediately at high speed, or over time, under normal use.

Wind testing alone may not have revealed the problem. It could easily be a combination of wind speed and vehicle vibration that you don't get in a wind tunnel. GM needs to look into it, discover the cause and come up with a fix.

And don't tell me its no big deal because it will be covered under warranty. That's crap. Who wants to have to take their car into the shop, have a new faica put on, new paint applied, maybe it matches, maybe it doesn't? Who wants that hassle.

That's like discovering that the engine will blow up after 10,000 miles. But don't worry about it, we'll fix it under warranty. Yeah right. Happy day.

If its a problem, fix it now.

Wow you are really smart! Look at what you figured from a pic. No offence but I will let the experts take care of this if it is an issue, thank you very much!

[MrGazinya]

I really have faith that this is just an isolated incident.

[FirstLSK]

I don't think that anyone has said this yet but... THANK YOU Nine Ball for posting this.

I really hope that issues like this get posted for every component failure that occurs from every production Camaro. Why? Because it reinforces your argument if your fascia crack 3 years from now and the dealer tries to deny warrany.

As other have stated, this is not a 155 issue, but a component fatigue issue. As much as GM monitors this site, I am sure that they are already aware of the issue.

To my fellow Camaro pre-order enthusiasts, I would just recommend that you keep a keen eye on this area of your car. I know I will be.

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by Silver Streak

Because you didn't have damage does that mean it didn't happen to another car of the same model, hell another 30 mph and you can go airborne. That is a whole lot of force and the car I hit 155mph and faster with was 2006 Evo MR a very well built car. We have one piece of evidence to this happening. If you took 10,000 WRX's or GTO's and traveled 155mph I bet that at least one of those cars will have problems if not many more. This is jumping the gun!

Time will tell if this is an isolated case (I sure hope so).

But my point was that a Camaro SS should be able to run 155mph with no damage.
I was making a comment to the post about how you should expect problems/damage if you go 155mph in any vehicle (which is ridiculous).