irpq11, L99 Dyno results.

[LDGn63]

Originally Posted by themossman

That makes me sad. :(

+1
my heart goes out to ALL you guys with L99 issues.

My car is slow because I can't drive it worth a crap!

[ShAgMaN]

Originally Posted by JTinFL

Has anyone put any other type of gas in it yet other than 93 octane to see what it would do?

Funny you should ask but I noticed a BIG difference after putting some in the other day. Happy with my LS3, but now its even stronger with the 93 octane and 3 more miles per gallon! Dont know why I listened to my salesman, telling me reg. was just as good with this engine - though I was still using mid-grade.

[carfansince73]

Originally Posted by Number_9

This is my new daily thread obsession.

Me too, and I have an LS3. I just hope all of you with a slower L99 get it fixed.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

Randy. WAIT!!

They are going to put a data logger on #230 next week. Lets wait and see what they come up with. Also you and have talked about the VRAM air intake. We can do that without voiding a warranty.

I don't want to see you waste your warranty man. You already have told me a few times you should of listened to me about the Camaro stuff. Don't jump the gun and mess up the warranty yet.

I won't. At least not yet. I'll wait for your data to come back. After that, if we're still at no resolution, I'm getting it tuned and hold on to this car til the end of the world. Then maybe ...... Ford?..........

Originally Posted by rpepka

Hi Irpq11,

I took mine to the dealer and they are performing tests on it. When I spoke to them yesterday, they asked me what type of gas that I used. My rep said that they were doing all types of 0 to 60 tests with traction control on, off etc. I said "so I'm NOT on drugs?!” She said “no you’re not on drugs”, I said “so there is something wrong with the car” she said “Yes, there is something wrong with the car”. I could not have been more happy! When I dropped the car off I included a copy of the brochure page of the Camaro that shows the 0 to 60 time advertised at 4.7 seconds and a stop watch. I also printed all the blogs regarding this issue from this blog and others. Take your dyno results as well. Scott says “Once at the dealership, we need your dealer to initiate a Technical Assistance Case through Launch Brand Quality process. So take it back to the dealer and make them keep it until they do something about it. My car has been at the dealer for 9 days now.

Bet you didn't expect all this when you ordered it.

Originally Posted by MTron

QFT!!!!! DONT VOID your warrenty...... Its not a solution to get the car tuned....i mean...has everyone gone crazy? Your not getting what GM said you should be getting....and not by a little...but quite a significant margin, of such degree that there MUST be SOME issue with the car. However minor the issue, it is NOT YOUR responsibility to fix it.

I mean, people saying "oh, yea the A/F is a little wonky, but we can just tune it and its all better!" or "oh, go get it dyno tuned it will be fine!"

These are NOT solutions, they are workarounds! and unfortunately one thing they don't work around is you not being able to keep your warranty on the power train if you get it tuned.

Talk to your dealer, explain that something is not right, ask then to contact GM, let them know others are having a similar problem.

If your dealer doesn't believe you or care, which might be the case, contact a different dealer.

At the very least, do as Scott said and wait until they get some data off his computer, and see if there is some kind of issue. As well, wait for rpepka to find a solution for his car so as to see if it might be applicable to your case as well.

"Cooler heads prevail" Don't do anything rash, don't do anything that cant be undone, NOT until you have ALL the information

My guy just said "No man, it feels like a beast". WOW, what incredible diagnostic prowess.

Originally Posted by Crowley

I agree that something is probably wrong .. the problem is what. Could be Air filter related, fuel related? You have a dyno showing that A/F is definately a little wacky. You mention 0-60 times so if you have measured that and they are off, something is up. Here is what we know you can do, change air filters .. that will NOT void the warrenty. If that doesn't resolve the issue, I'd have the dealer check it out .. maybe they will find something and all will be well.

You will get this issue resolved (I know that doesn't help the situation now), but if you had initially planned to not do anything that could possibly void your warrenty, stick to that as in the long run it will make you feel better! You will have lots of support on whatever decision you make and I hope it gets resolved for you.

Crowley

:( This sucks.

Originally Posted by 2010SLVRBULIT

Curious as to what fuel(rating and brand)you are using. I'd try that first..

93, and I get it wherever I am when I need it.

Originally Posted by JTinFL

Has anyone put any other type of gas in it yet other than 93 octane to see what it would do?

Originally Posted by themossman

That makes me sad. :(

There. A big smiley. Smilies make everything better.

Originally Posted by pcmforless

I would wait to see if GM comes up with something since more than a few people have made them aware and it sounds like they are working on it. If you want to keep your car completly stock I would definitely give them a chance to fix it.
Guys, I'm not trying to sell him a tune here, he is 5 or 6 states away, so I'm sure he is not going to drive the car all the way to PA. I'm just adding in expert opinion to the situation to help add as much information as possible to everyone's understanding of what is going on with these cars as I hate to see anyone dissapointed with their new machine

I apreciate the help. Really. I'll be there in the morning. No I won't.

[Number_9]

Originally Posted by JTinFL

Has anyone put any other type of gas in it yet other than 93 octane to see what it would do?

I just got back (last week) from a long, multiple state road trip with the son. We were in the midwest and found ourselves using stations that didn't even have 90+ octane gas. Also a lot of ethanol at times. I definitely noticed a pick up and go difference... no difference in speed capabilities mind you, but a definite difference in acceleration. Back in Texas, where 93 octane is readily available, I noticed things getting back to normal.... I think it took a couple of tanks to flush the midwest gas out of the system.

Just dropped in a K&N filter this morning and noticed an immediate change in the throatiness and acceleration (otherwise, pure stock). Can't wait to get some times to compare my L99 against what IRPQ11 is seeing.

[Dakota Kid]

THe K&N Air Filter will be my very first mod, even before tinting the windows.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Unfair

107hp drivetrain loss on the first run? that can't be right.

He said the first pull was his fault. Whatever that means.

Originally Posted by ShAgMaN

Funny you should ask but I noticed a BIG difference after putting some in the other day. Happy with my LS3, but now its even stronger with the 93 octane and 3 more miles per gallon! Dont know why I listened to my salesman, telling me reg. was just as good with this engine - though I was still using mid-grade.

93 from the beggining here.





BTW guys. My dealer hasn't been obstructive. They just don't really know what to do with a 'healthy' car. I have to go this next week to start a Technical Assistance Case through Launch Brand Quality. He said I'd have to drop it off, so I couldn't the last few days I was over there. Like I said before. It's REALLY hard for me to get time away. I will be able to drop it off with them on Tuesday tough. And I guess I just drive my Jeep Liberty for the forseeable future.

[Number_9]

Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

THe K&N Air Filter will be my very first mod, even before tinting the windows.

I realize you are in MO but for those in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas, I called over 20 people yesterday trying to find someone who had the K&N in stock or could get it in a reasonable amount of time.

I found one place... TLC Accessories & Performance in Bedford, Texas. While they didn't have it in stock they were able to get it and have it in hand for me overnight.... with no charge to me for the service above/beyond the price of the filter itself. I called these guys yesterday afternoon... and they had the filter in hand at 8am this morning... and it was installed by 9.

Thank you TLC!

[Scott@Bjorn3D]

Originally Posted by Number_9

I realize you are in MO but for those in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas, I called over 20 people yesterday trying to find someone who had the K&N in stock or could get it in a reasonable amount of time.

I found one place... TLC Accessories & Performance in Bedford, Texas. While they didn't have it in stock they were able to get it and have it in hand for me overnight.... with no charge to me for the service above/beyond the price of the filter itself. I called these guys yesterday afternoon... and they had the filter in hand at 8am this morning... and it was installed by 9.

Thank you TLC!

Did you notice any difference with it in?

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Number_9

I just got back (last week) from a long, multiple state road trip with the son. We were in the midwest and found ourselves using stations that didn't even have 90+ octane gas. Also a lot of ethanol at times. I definitely noticed a pick up and go difference... no difference in speed capabilities mind you, but a definite difference in acceleration. Back in Texas, where 93 octane is readily available, I noticed things getting back to normal.... I think it took a couple of tanks to flush the midwest gas out of the system.

Just dropped in a K&N filter this morning and noticed an immediate change in the throatiness and acceleration (otherwise, pure stock). Can't wait to get some times to compare my L99 against what IRPQ11 is seeing.

I'll be in Houston this weekend. Do you know where I can get one of those without ordering?


EDIT, you just answered.

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by Number_9

I realize you are in MO but for those in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas, I called over 20 people yesterday trying to find someone who had the K&N in stock or could get it in a reasonable amount of time.

I found one place... TLC Accessories & Performance in Bedford, Texas. While they didn't have it in stock they were able to get it and have it in hand for me overnight.... with no charge to me for the service above/beyond the price of the filter itself. I called these guys yesterday afternoon... and they had the filter in hand at 8am this morning... and it was installed by 9.

Thank you TLC!

No Pun intended?

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Crowley

No Pun intended?

Or Synonym.

[Number_9]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

Did you notice any difference with it in?

Immediately... in sound and acceleration. Not times run yet... but I will have some Dynolicious times tonight.

Originally Posted by irpq11

EDIT, you just answered.

Are you passing through Dallas? It might be cool to introduce our Baby's to each other and have a coke/beer. For your ampping purposes, the address for TLC is 1812 Reliance, Bedford, Texas. They are about 1 block north of state hey 183 (I spoke to "Brian" but I don't think it will matter much who you talk to) - telephone (817) 283-4991.

Originally Posted by Crowley

No Pun intended?

LOL! Well, not intentionally anyway!

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Number_9

Are you passing through Dallas? It might be cool to introduce our Baby's to each other and have a coke/beer.

Alas. No. I'll be heading west across I-10 from Alabama. BUT, I will be drinking beer and floating on water this weekend. Bonnies brother lives in Houston and we're taking the boat out.