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View Poll Results: Your guess for the Z28 LSA HP rating | |||
Less than 556 HP | 95 | 13.63% | |
556 HP | 159 | 22.81% | |
More than 556 HP | 386 | 55.38% | |
We don't even know if the LSA is going to be in the Z28! Stupid question! | 57 | 8.18% | |
Voters: 697. You may not vote on this poll |
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01-11-2011, 05:46 PM | #127 | |
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01-11-2011, 07:11 PM | #128 | ||||
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Cadillac is being positioned to compete head-on with BMW and friends. All (or most) of them compete in some sort of performance driving event. But they are all known for being luxury vehicles FIRST, and performance vehicles second. Quote:
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sitting in both the Camaro and the CTS-V (being able to afford both) wouldn't value the superior quality/materials/features of the Cadillac. I just don't think that's all going to line up in the real-world. Most CTS-V buyers may be 'only' interested in performance...but I find it incredibly hard to believe that any one of them would rather drive a 'lowly' Chevy... |
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01-11-2011, 08:06 PM | #129 | |
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01-11-2011, 08:12 PM | #130 |
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Very true....It's a plausible thought given the amount of time the Z has been in development.
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01-12-2011, 09:18 AM | #131 | |
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Who'd a really thought, at the end of the 4th Gen, that it'd be somewhat reasonable to even think it would be even somewhat reasonable to speculate a 500+ horse' CAMARO?... These are some great times, friend
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01-12-2011, 04:45 PM | #132 | |
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01-12-2011, 04:57 PM | #133 |
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585 hp from slp is able to do 0-60 in 3.6 and 1/4 in 11.5@122 by motorweek's testers with pilot ps2 tires and short throw shifter......so maybe 585 might be pretty close to what GM will offer in the Z/28. This is some of the best times that I have seen with a tuner camaro by any online magazine or tester yet.
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01-12-2011, 04:58 PM | #134 | |
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01-12-2011, 08:52 PM | #135 | |
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RANT ON-- However, I do have to respond to your comment that I have highlighted above. I am a CTS-V owner (the "lowly" 1st Gen version). I know between 50 and 100+ CTS-V owners that I have personally met over the last 6 years. I have attended track days with some and put together and attended meets with others, and let me tell you, not once have I ever heard anyone say they like the car because it is a "Cadillac" and somehow better than other GM marques. That is a narrow-minded and naive way to look at our particular family of car enthusiasts. I'm not sure if you, or any of the other posters who have posted recently, have first-hand knowledge of the CTS-V community (or have ever driven a CTS-V even), but you would be very surprised at just how performance-oriented they all are. The V1 guys (myself included) are very much into the performance side of things (I actively open track my car as much as I can), and a huge amount of V2 owners are guys that first owned a V1, and just continued on the same path that the amazing 1st Gen set them on. I don't talk down to Chevy owners, or BMW owners, or whatever, so I expect not to be generalized as a Cadillac owner either. I could have bought a base Corvette for roughly the same money as I paid for my V1 new back in early '05, but I chose the V because I had just graduated from college and needed a vehicle big enough and comfortable enough (and could still haul ass) to haul everything I would need to live on for a couple of months until my parents could bring the rest to me. My choice was made up at that point. It had absolutely nothing to do with the name brand at that time. But, something I do take pride in now is just how rare and unique my V1 is. I live in a community of 30,000 people and I have never seen another V in my town. That is cool. With a Vette or Camaro, you see them on every corner, they are a dime a dozen, which kinda takes the fun out of it for me. (although I still like them) RANT OFF--- To get back on topic here, and to speak directly to your point on cross-shopping, I may be in the minority here, but I will be, and am interested in both the V2 and the upcoming Z/28. And I also know that if I test drove both and liked them both more or less equally, but for slightly different reasons maybe, I would buy the one that provided the best value, or "bang for the buck" (which would be the Z if it does have at least 556 HP and is around $50K). By the way, I like good-natured discussions and I mean no disrespect by anything I have posted or will post.
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01-12-2011, 09:16 PM | #136 | |
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And you're right, I don't have much experience with the CTS-V crowd outside of a couple people (one of them a serious Camaro enthusiast) I know who own one and absolutely love it. I can read the passion you have for the car and the community through your post....which is hard to do on the internet, so take that for what its worth. I'll take your word for it, and I'm glad to now have the perception that most CTS-V owners aren't nose-talkers like the drivers of certain other marques. |
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01-12-2011, 09:43 PM | #137 | |
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On a side note, I have been coming to these great forums for the last 3 months straight for all my Z/28 info needs and have been having great discussions and loving it here. You mods do a great job and I love all the new content that this site continually has, not to mention the thought-provoking questions that are quite often posted. On a last side note, you guys can see my car here in all its glory if you care to see my mod list and more cool pix of her (I love spreading the "V Love"): http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...der-2-0-a.html Track vids: http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/road-r...orts-park.html Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...
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01-12-2011, 09:58 PM | #138 |
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Thank you for the kind words, and that's a slick V!!
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01-15-2011, 09:50 PM | #140 |
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Most likely the LS3 with a supercharger to bring it close to about 576hp.
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