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Protomanx8 · 10-10-2011, 07:38 PM

So I park at the store to walk in and this guy walks up he's like I have a 2ss aswell im like that's awesome what color . Anyways after talking for awhile he's like how much HP do you have ... I always go by rwhp cuz that's what really matters I say 368 RWHP . He says oh that's it I have 420 cuz mine is a manual . I tell him that's not his actual horse power to his wheels and he gets mad and argues with me. But what I've noticed is how come muscle car people seem to go by engine HP and not the RWHP ? Just curious

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-10-2011, 07:41 PM

That's the standard. It's what manufacturers advertise, it's what people are used to.

And I don't think it matters one way or the other, personally...as long as you're both using the same reference - the message is conveyed.

....I rarely hear people refer to rwhp unless they're super-car-nuts like around here.

slick rick · 10-10-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Protomanx8

how come muscle car people seem to go by engine HP and not the RWHP ? Just curious

It's a higher number than the rwhp and most don't dyno their car to get the actual rwhp?

yzrider58 · 10-10-2011, 07:50 PM

People use the flywheel power because it's a known number. Those who have their cars dyno'd know the exact number and use it.

GB EB · 10-10-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Protomanx8

So I park at the store to walk in and this guy walks up he's like I have a 2ss aswell im like that's awesome what color . Anyways after talking for awhile he's like how much HP do you have ... I always go by rwhp cuz that's what really matters I say 368 RWHP . He says oh that's it I have 420 cuz mine is a manual . I tell him that's not his actual horse power to his wheels and he gets mad and argues with me. But what I've noticed is how come muscle car people seem to go by engine HP and not the RWHP ? Just curious

You just answered your own question....

I've got 382 RWHP but if I tell some one that they say "I thought the SS had 400HP?"

mikeSS · 10-10-2011, 08:01 PM

i dont understand why you would think saying WHP is easier and better. i always say bhp its what more people understand.

DarkneSS · 10-10-2011, 08:02 PM

Same reason why if you live in Connecticut and you talk to someone in China youre probably better of telling them you live in New York because they will probably know where that is and never heard of Connecticut. Its all relative.

When you talk to the average idiot off the street even if they are interested in cars they probably dont even know that the HP rating is not what the car actually puts to the ground.

I say leave the wheel horsepower talk to people like us who know what that means, it makes a sort of select club and helps you weed out the morons.

Bonanza7 · 10-10-2011, 08:04 PM

Sounds better if you use engine hp.

mhood · 10-10-2011, 08:06 PM

Yea...bigger is better.

Wakemaker89 · 10-10-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mhood

Yea...bigger is better.

Love that especially cause you are also a texas guy! everything is bigger in texas!!!!

mikeyroche · 10-10-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Protomanx8

So I park at the store to walk in and this guy walks up he's like I have a 2ss aswell im like that's awesome what color . Anyways after talking for awhile he's like how much HP do you have ... I always go by rwhp cuz that's what really matters I say 368 RWHP . He says oh that's it I have 420 cuz mine is a manual . I tell him that's not his actual horse power to his wheels and he gets mad and argues with me. But what I've noticed is how come muscle car people seem to go by engine HP and not the RWHP ? Just curious

Easy fix, figure out what your crank HP is and when someone asks at first say 450, 460....whatever Crank/Engine HP and if he seems like he knows his stuff say your rwhp... I hardly ever say my rear wheel because most people to get it.... And of course rule of thumb for manual Divide by .85 to get your theoretical crank numbers

IROCanSS · 10-10-2011, 08:11 PM

I get that a lot when they hear my car... "whoa man, sounds awesome, how much horsepower?" My reply is always "well, my last dyno it put down about 415 to the road so almost 500 at the crank." They always understand.

SUX2BU · 10-10-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyroche

Easy fix, figure out what your crank HP is and when someone asks at first say 450, 460....whatever Crank/Engine HP and if he seems like he knows his stuff say your rwhp... I hardly ever say my rear wheel because most people to get it.... And of course rule of thumb for manual Divide by .85 to get your theoretical crank numbers

Exactly, I tell everyone my car makes about 500 hp. If they ask "To the wheels?" I know they aren't newbs and I go into detail.

Rogan · 10-10-2011, 09:33 PM

Among friends who into HP we refer to RWHP. To just those who like muscle cars but never visited a dyno I refer to HP @ crank.

10-10-2011, 07:38 PM	#1
Protomanx8 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 ABM Join Date: May 2011 Location: NOVA Posts: 200	Why not just say rwhp So I park at the store to walk in and this guy walks up he's like I have a 2ss aswell im like that's awesome what color . Anyways after talking for awhile he's like how much HP do you have ... I always go by rwhp cuz that's what really matters I say 368 RWHP . He says oh that's it I have 420 cuz mine is a manual . I tell him that's not his actual horse power to his wheels and he gets mad and argues with me. But what I've noticed is how come muscle car people seem to go by engine HP and not the RWHP ? Just curious

10-10-2011, 07:41 PM	#2
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	That's the standard. It's what manufacturers advertise, it's what people are used to. And I don't think it matters one way or the other, personally...as long as you're both using the same reference - the message is conveyed. ....I rarely hear people refer to rwhp unless they're super-car-nuts like around here. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-10-2011, 07:50 PM	#4
yzrider58 Aviation guru Drives: 10 1SS, 09 Acadia, 90 K1500 Z-71 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 832 View My Garage	People use the flywheel power because it's a known number. Those who have their cars dyno'd know the exact number and use it. __________________

10-10-2011, 08:06 PM	#9
mhood Orange Camaros Rule! Drives: 2010 1SS LS3 RS IOM Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,559	Yea...bigger is better. __________________ Mary - Orange Camaros Rule!

10-10-2011, 09:33 PM	#14
Rogan No Pain No Gain Drives: Yellow 5th Gen 2SS RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: GA Posts: 1,519	Among friends who into HP we refer to RWHP. To just those who like muscle cars but never visited a dyno I refer to HP @ crank. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS/L99 - Headers/CAI/SWAYs/CoilOvers/Tune/Steel Braided Brake Lines/Frozen Slotted Rotors

10-10-2011, 08:01 PM	#6
mikeSS Drives: 2015 c7 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MI Posts: 7,462	i dont understand why you would think saying WHP is easier and better. i always say bhp its what more people understand.

10-10-2011, 08:02 PM	#7
DarkneSS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6MT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Westchester, New York Posts: 3,715	Same reason why if you live in Connecticut and you talk to someone in China youre probably better of telling them you live in New York because they will probably know where that is and never heard of Connecticut. Its all relative. When you talk to the average idiot off the street even if they are interested in cars they probably dont even know that the HP rating is not what the car actually puts to the ground. I say leave the wheel horsepower talk to people like us who know what that means, it makes a sort of select club and helps you weed out the morons.

10-10-2011, 08:04 PM	#8
Bonanza7 Account Suspended Drives: 2010, Rally Yellow, Black stripes Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,363	Sounds better if you use engine hp.

10-10-2011, 08:11 PM	#12
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	I get that a lot when they hear my car... "whoa man, sounds awesome, how much horsepower?" My reply is always "well, my last dyno it put down about 415 to the road so almost 500 at the crank." They always understand.

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