Damn Nissan Isn't Messing Around This Year

[CombatVet0311]

Originally Posted by syr74

Same story different day. Cadillac builds one competitive car and you guys celebrate like you just won the Superbowl and would probably compare it to a Bentley Arnage if somebody posted something about that car. I called the GM bankruptcy well before that happened, I called it when I said that other companies would still fare much better than GM in terms of market share gains despite their get out of jail free card, and I called it when I said that GM was not in a better monetary position than their main domestic rival despite that same get out of jail free card.

Now I'm suffering fools who think the a Cadillac brand with one decent offering (that is relatively heavily discounted no less) is going to save a brand that is doing nothing of significance to improve their dealership experience. Some people just wont learn. But don't let me stop you, I'm sure this time is the charm.

I bet it felt great to get that off your chest, probably orgasmic

[Russo]

Originally Posted by CombatVet0311

I bet it felt great to get that off your chest, probably orgasmic

i know it felt good to me....

[CombatVet0311]

Originally Posted by Russo

i know it felt good to me....

that's good, the collective ears of Camaro 5 are open for you guys to b!tch and cry freely at your leisure. enjoy.

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Same story different day. Cadillac builds one competitive car and you guys celebrate like you just won the Superbowl and would probably compare it to a Bentley Arnage if somebody posted something about that car....

Now I'm suffering fools who think the a Cadillac brand with one decent offering (that is relatively heavily discounted no less) is going to save a brand that is doing nothing of significance to improve their dealership experience. Some people just wont learn. But don't let me stop you, I'm sure this time is the charm.

Damn bro.. U are seriously reaching. I have had excellent experience at my Cadillac Dealership... Gourmet Coffee/Cappuccino, pastries... and even if I only have to leave my vehicle there for an hour or two.. I'm still am offered a Loaner from their In-House Enterprise office, usually a sweeeeet ass SRX, CTS, or 'Slade. Several times tho I have gotten the key to the owner's XLR or STS-V tho. Best part is that I have only once had to leave my Cadillac at the dealer over night.. and it was because I COULDN'T get back there before closing because I was outta town. Cadillac's being pretty reliable and all.

Cadillac builds more than just the CTS too. It also builds to the top selling Luxo SUV and the second best selling Luxo CUV. Cadillac is literally the second strongest Growth brand on the market, just behind Buick. Hate at wil l The only thing that seems to hold Cadillac back is the fact that it currently only has 3 "live" products to sell. The XTS, and ATS will remedy this.

Originally Posted by syr74

I called the GM bankruptcy well before that happened, I called it when I said that other companies would still fare much better than GM in terms of market share gains despite their get out of jail free card, and I called it when I said that GM was not in a better monetary position than their main domestic rival despite that same get out of jail free card.

Dude.. what do U want a cookie? Anyone who could see, saw a company taking too good a care of it's workers/retirees. So much so they couldn't invest properly in the product. So would call GM the ultimate humanitarian company.. but that's all fixed now... and "I told U so" simply has no relevance now that GM is strongly on the mend.

Also.. am I the only one that realizes that GM lost 4 brands. Your expert opinion that GM would lose market share after the lost of Pontiac, Saturn, Hummer and Saab. My 10 year old saw this coming.. Hell in 2009 Pontiac alone almost sold as many as Mercury, Jag, AND VOLVO??? I am actually proud tho, that Ford has gained market share after what they were going thru for the past 6 years, but with a lost of 4 very well known brands.. I think the fact that GM has only lost 6/10s of a percent of market share over the last year with massive amounts of new product and Foreign rivals faltering in their perception blanket... is just as, if not more impressive.


Lastly.. GM is in a much better monetary position than Ford.

Looking at the actual numbers:

GM has $32 Billion CASH
They have $8.2 billion + the $27 billion Underfunded VEBA Debt)
Leaving them with a NEGATIVE -$3.2 billion

Ford has $22 Billion CASH
They have $27 Billion + a KNOWN $17 Billion Underfunded VEBA Debt (and a probable $5.5 Billion more by Dec.)
Leaving them with a NEGATIVE -$17 Billion (-$22.5 Billion if the Analyst is correct)

[20Camaro11]

I feel as though this thread was hijacked by CTS/GM haters when it started as a recognition of the improvement of Nissan cars. I may be off course, but seriously, where is the beef?

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by syr74

Same story different day. Cadillac builds one competitive car and you guys celebrate like you just won the Superbowl and would probably compare it to a Bentley Arnage if somebody posted something about that car. I called the GM bankruptcy well before that happened, I called it when I said that other companies would still fare much better than GM in terms of market share gains despite their get out of jail free card, and I called it when I said that GM was not in a better monetary position than their main domestic rival despite that same get out of jail free card.

Now I'm suffering fools who think the a Cadillac brand with one decent offering (that is relatively heavily discounted no less) is going to save a brand that is doing nothing of significance to improve their dealership experience. Some people just wont learn. But don't let me stop you, I'm sure this time is the charm.

I agree with the first point you was trying to make, but....

1. CTS/CTS-V - next gene will be the size of the late model STS give or take to combat the 5 series and the E-class.. never mind the rice burners

2. SRX - the "Cadillac of Crossovers.. knuff said

3. ATS- should be the size of the current CTS.. a lil smaller giver or take to combat the 3 series and the c-class... the V cars are gonna be nice!!

4. The Escalade.. ima leave that to someone else

The next 3 years are gonna be fun

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by syr74

But don't let me stop you, I'm sure this time is the charm.

Well excuse me!

Remind me next time you want to crap all over a thread...I'll get the paper towels ready...

[mdinferno]

Entaille, you are correct G and the FX are holding its value... the M and QX has the worse resale value.

[King Sun]

lol when I made this thread I wasn't expecting all this drama

[syr74]

Originally Posted by King Sun

lol when I made this thread I wasn't expecting all this drama

Would've been a good post to break this out.

[bigearl]

Originally Posted by 20Camaro11

I feel as though this thread was hijacked by CTS/GM haters when it started as a recognition of the improvement of Nissan cars. I may be off course, but seriously, where is the beef?

LOL, I was wondering the same thing. Looked like a nice car- not my cup of tea- but a nice car nonetheless.

It's wierd that there's an argument over the back seats. I think maybe some of you don't have enough friends.

[TahoeCamaro]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

Damn bro.. U are seriously reaching. I have had excellent experience at my Cadillac Dealership... Gourmet Coffee/Cappuccino, pastries... and even if I only have to leave my vehicle there for an hour or two.. I'm still am offered a Loaner from their In-House Enterprise office, usually a sweeeeet ass SRX, CTS, or 'Slade. Several times tho I have gotten the key to the owner's XLR or STS-V tho. Best part is that I have only once had to leave my Cadillac at the dealer over night.. and it was because I COULDN'T get back there before closing because I was outta town. Cadillac's being pretty reliable and all.

Cadillac builds more than just the CTS too. It also builds to the top selling Luxo SUV and the second best selling Luxo CUV. Cadillac is literally the second strongest Growth brand on the market, just behind Buick. Hate at wil l The only thing that seems to hold Cadillac back is the fact that it currently only has 3 "live" products to sell. The XTS, and ATS will remedy this.

Got a fully loaded 2011 SRX the yesterday as a rental while the Escalade was in for service. Got an STS and an STS-V acouple months ago too. I'd say Cadillac dealers have amazing service, and it's expected since you're paying such a large amount of cash for a car/SUV. Love our escalade.

[kbui]

Originally Posted by CombatVet0311

I bet it felt great to get that off your chest, probably orgasmic

Don't know where Syr74 experienced his lousy Cadillac service, but the service I am getting for my Escalade at the Cady dealership has been infinitely better than what I have been getting at my Infiniti's dealer for my wife's G35. Now I am wondering if Syr actually ever own any of these cars or just like to be a hater.

[CombatVet0311]

I'm thinking hater