05-07-2008, 04:52 PM | #1 |
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Camaro Racing Question...
Okay, check this out. I was talking w/ some friends who are BIG import guys and when I told them that I was getting the new Camaro they all started ragging on me.
One of them drives a new Evo. I think it has a turbo. Anyways, he was telling me that my main downfall to beating imports, especially his, is that off the line my tires will skid a lot and will cause me to lose. He said, on top of that, that he wouldn't race a muscle car anyways because RWD often causes the tail to almost hit him. Something like that. My question is, what is the remedy for the tires skidding for the first few seconds of the race and how to control a fish tail. Thanks for atleast reading my comment. |
05-07-2008, 05:16 PM | #2 |
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Apparently he's only raced guys who can't drive and with horrible launch technique.
That was one thing I appreciated about Rev-It-Up. They taught you how to do really good launches. It is not nearly as simple as just smashing the peddle. Again, learn to drive, then show your import friends how ignorant they are. |
05-07-2008, 05:24 PM | #3 |
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traction control. no there is more to a proper launch then just rev the engine up and dropping the clutch. you really dont even need to bring the rpms that much to do a good launch. get some good sticky tires
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05-07-2008, 05:29 PM | #4 |
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Yeah...it's really up to the driver on the launch. It has nothing to do w/ the car.
ASR (anti slip regulation) on my current 02 SS keeps the back end from sliding all over the place. Plus, the fact that I don't mash the peddle all the way to the ground upon launch also keeps the back end from sliding out. Wider rear tires give more traction as along w/ slicks. If you have slicks that are fairly wide on the rear and then heat them up, it'll be more difficult to break that rear end loose. |
05-07-2008, 06:09 PM | #5 |
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Although, a traction contol launch is A LOT slower than a big rev,full throttle, no traction control launch because traction control reins in all the power so there is no slippage at all. Hopfully, the new Camaro comes with Launch Control. That gives the PERFECT amount of power to the pavement.
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05-07-2008, 07:22 PM | #6 | |
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My experience with EVO guys are some know what they are talking about and most are just completely stupid. and honestly he's starting to sound like the later half. Launching an AWD car is easier then launching a RWD one. He'll get better 60's but crappier top end then a RWD car that is comparable. Also most EVO guys that I've met don't know how to drive. That's why they got an AWD car. but I'm not saying all EVO guys are like that. so if anyone drives an EVO here sorry. |
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05-07-2008, 07:22 PM | #7 | |
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If FWD or AWD were the way to go, you'd see it in a variation of Top Fuel. Tommy Ivo tried it and found that once you get into REAL horsepower, you lose the ability to aim the car. He had a 4-engine dragster that smoked all four wheels down the track. It was a handful! |
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05-07-2008, 07:58 PM | #8 | |
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05-07-2008, 08:09 PM | #9 | |
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So this is what I've gathered so far: Wide-Sticky tires Dump the clutch at near redline RPM's And hope that the Camaro comes out w/ somesort of handling technology such as ASR or Launch Control . . . . . . |
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05-07-2008, 08:58 PM | #10 | |
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Rev-It-Up is a i think a short thing chevy did where you could test drive a vette, cobalt ss, w/e around a track or parking lot with a proffesional instructor i think, Stovt001 correct me if i'm wrong. And when you do get the camaro and race your friend, tail whip him anyway and beat him. Do it for me.
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05-07-2008, 09:52 PM | #11 | |
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To be honest, Mr. EVO doesn't seem to know very much about RWD cars...either that, or he's just speaking import. (yeah, it's a language ) The main downfall of you beating him in a new Camaro is if you let him have a headstart, that's all I can think of. |
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05-08-2008, 12:59 AM | #12 |
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Yeah....don't you dare drop a stocker at 6K RPM'S!!!...or redline, whatever.
ASR, or traction control, can help you out. But, it can also really screw you up if you do want to let those rear tires loose. It can cause you to stall out. |
05-08-2008, 04:50 AM | #13 |
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I guess practice makes perfect...
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05-08-2008, 08:20 AM | #14 |
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You really need to take a field trip to a drag strip and see how its done. talk to people. I would say get some stickier tires that stock but not full out slicks bc if somethings gotta give you want it to be your tires not your differential or clutch or whatever. Get some drag radials and go to the track. Learn how to warm them up and learn how far you can push them until you break them loose. Start off launching at 2,000 rpm and move up 500 rpm incriments. racing is just like any other sport, practice makes perfect. And tell your evo friend he dosent know what hes talking about.
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