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Doc · 04-09-2012, 10:42 PM

Are you guys surprised they're working on a Z/28 option? Originally it was a performance option; RPO Z/28 that you could get on a 1969 Camaro. The "option" made the car certifiable for the Trans-Am racing series so you got a beefed-up 302 cubic inch V8 that was way under-rated on the air cleaner; it said 290 hp if I remember right but they were actually putting out more like 345 hp. Ford was doing the same thing with the Boss 302.

It was a road-racing option which Roger Penske and Mark Donohue put to good use in the Trans-Am series; thus giving the Z/28 option the legendary status it has today.

Except for the fact there's no change in the engine, the 1LE option is basically a Z/28 option. As long as they don't supercharge it but still increase the power of the LS3; that with the 1LE option is essentially a Z/28.

I'd like to see them drop the weight a couple hundred pounds too but give it say 460-470 hp; 19" light-weight wheels and bring it in at about $42k and it would make Mustangs break out in a sweat at road courses from sea to shining sea.

J-ROD-210 · 04-09-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

Are you guys surprised they're working on a Z/28 option? Originally it was a performance option; RPO Z/28 that you could get on a 1969 Camaro. The "option" made the car certifiable for the Trans-Am racing series so you got a beefed-up 302 cubic inch V8 that was way under-rated on the air cleaner; it said 290 hp if I remember right but they were actually putting out more like 345 hp. Ford was doing the same thing with the Boss 302.

It was a road-racing option which Roger Penske and Mark Donohue put to good use in the Trans-Am series; thus giving the Z/28 option the legendary status it has today.

Except for the fact there's no change in the engine, the 1LE option is basically a Z/28 option. As long as they don't supercharge it but still increase the power of the LS3; that with the 1LE option is essentially a Z/28.

I'd like to see them drop the weight a couple hundred pounds too but give it say 460-470 hp; 19" light-weight wheels and bring it in at about $42k and it would make Mustangs break out in a sweat at road courses from sea to shining sea.

Like your sig."blue angel". Check out chevy.com and the 2013 427 convertible Corvette w/carbon fiber hood.Why not a Camaro 427 w/505hp?and carbon fiber goodies..Z/28?

*Mr. Wyndham* · 04-09-2012, 11:21 PM

Factory Camaro "Easter Eggs"...Interesting.

tony_c · 04-09-2012, 11:25 PM

And so it Begins...

Buffnshine · 04-09-2012, 11:38 PM

well the 1LE shares that piece and I think that is code for Z28

hairtrigger · 04-09-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by J-ROD-210

Like your sig."blue angel". Check out chevy.com and the 2013 427 convertible Corvette w/carbon fiber hood.Why not a Camaro 427 w/505hp?and carbon fiber goodies..Z/28?

Cost. Price out an LS7 and you'll see why that engine and the LS9 have been left out of the Camaro so far. The LSA is the perfect blue collar engine in the lineup.

PQ · 04-09-2012, 11:48 PM

Love the FNG on the upper part.

Revo1 · 04-10-2012, 01:32 AM

LOL showstopper! Light fuse, run away!

AmericanMuscles · 04-10-2012, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

This thread will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

If you know what movie line I just wrecked you get 15 awesome points.

The Hunt for Red October (1990)

Vulpine · 04-10-2012, 03:09 AM

LMFAO! All these hard-ons flyin' around here...geez

Everyone must have forgotten that the ZL1 was the Z28 until the name change most likely based on the fact the V8 was supercharged and the performance was to close to a corvette. Unfortunately, though I hate to admit it...I am starting to believe that Jay Leno knows more than the average car guy when he said that the V6 twin-turbo from the SEMA 2009 would be a possible 'Z28' *gasps for air*

I have always known the Z28 to be a V8 so those there were fightin' words in my book. However, I think with gas prices the way they are and performance technology the way its headed that chevy may actually concede to his fancy and make it so. Though I have to admit if any of you have seen his new video on Jay Leno's garage where he finally received that SEMA 2009 V6 Camaro and test drove it...'WOW' is all I can say about it. I prefer they call that a 'RS' or 'Berlinetta' or something and not a 'Z28' but do we really know or are we all just waiting for the BOMB to drop?

DoggyB22 · 04-10-2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikes SS

I am pretty durn sure that GM fully intended on calling the ZL1 a Z/28 but of course all of us on here waived the B/S flag and said no way cause it is supercharged..all of the parts were already in the making for test mules and such and of course this is all my opinion..

THIS I think the Z28 will be a track based car like the SSX & Boss 302 but street legal

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Originally Posted by AmericanMuscles

The Hunt for Red October (1990)

Little slow there..

Doc · 04-10-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by J-ROD-210

Like your sig."blue angel". Check out chevy.com and the 2013 427 convertible Corvette w/carbon fiber hood.Why not a Camaro 427 w/505hp?and carbon fiber goodies..Z/28?

Thanks.

The goodies you mention adds a bigger, heavier engine which goes against the original Z/28 purpose which actually brought the cubic inches down to 302. In 1969 you could get an SS with a 350 or 396 cubic inch engine so going down to a small-block 302 seemed to go against the grain until you realized the weight/balance advantage and the fact it actually had as much power as the bigger engines.

The Z/28 was a track car built to allow Chevy to compete in the Trans-Am series. It's a shame we don't have the Trans-Am series again; with all the new muscle cars it would be a great series and a great way for the auto companies to show off their cars... oil company sponsorship... tire company sponsorship... all the benefits a series like this has because it runs basically STREET cars that the average fan can identify with, own and drive.

How about a naturally-aspirated, direct-injection, dual-overhead-cam small-block V8 that puts out 450-490 hp and weighs LESS than the LS3 does now?

Get a Z/28 down around 3,600 lbs with that engine, the 1LE track pack, tune it for road racing and that's a car that would proudly live up to the legend of a Z/28. Lobby the SCCA to start a rebirth of the Trans-Am series; get Ford and Dodge to join in on it and you'd have something that would be very popular I think.

b4z · 04-10-2012, 10:52 AM

This is another entry into the "Camaro history" book. It will be handed down from generation to generation.

b4z · 04-10-2012, 10:55 AM

Okay, so who is going to be the first to remove the ZL1 badges and put Z28 badges on?

04-09-2012, 10:42 PM	#99
Doc Dances With Mustangs Drives: 2010 1SS/RS MT Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 3,819 View My Garage	Are you guys surprised they're working on a Z/28 option? Originally it was a performance option; RPO Z/28 that you could get on a 1969 Camaro. The "option" made the car certifiable for the Trans-Am racing series so you got a beefed-up 302 cubic inch V8 that was way under-rated on the air cleaner; it said 290 hp if I remember right but they were actually putting out more like 345 hp. Ford was doing the same thing with the Boss 302. It was a road-racing option which Roger Penske and Mark Donohue put to good use in the Trans-Am series; thus giving the Z/28 option the legendary status it has today. Except for the fact there's no change in the engine, the 1LE option is basically a Z/28 option. As long as they don't supercharge it but still increase the power of the LS3; that with the 1LE option is essentially a Z/28. I'd like to see them drop the weight a couple hundred pounds too but give it say 460-470 hp; 19" light-weight wheels and bring it in at about $42k and it would make Mustangs break out in a sweat at road courses from sea to shining sea. __________________ Blue Angel is here!! 1SS/RS LS3 M6 IBM

04-09-2012, 11:21 PM	#101
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	Factory Camaro "Easter Eggs"...Interesting. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

04-09-2012, 11:25 PM	#102
tony_c Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS, 2010 Equinox LTZ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wheatfield, NY Posts: 311 View My Garage	And so it Begins... __________________ 2SS/SIM L99 added: New Era CAI, ARH LT's, HP tune, side SS badges, SLP Hood & Spoiler and gill stripes, Painted extended Black Rally Stripes

04-09-2012, 11:38 PM	#103
Buffnshine So Cal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: '10 SS/RS, '06 HHR, '70 El Camino Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 2,589 View My Garage	well the 1LE shares that piece and I think that is code for Z28 __________________ TEAM L99 - So Cal Camaro5 Race Team #27 9/5/09 Purchased #36962 Black 1SS/RS L99 "E-TCKT" Base Dyno 328hp/341tq @BBK meet Mods to Date: Window Tint 5% & 15%, ACC P13W Lighting, Adaptive DRL Harness, Ghost Armor, Lloyds "SS" Mats, Dash Plaque, Flowmaster Outlaw Exhaust, Drake Front Bowtie Delete, Stealth 3457 Chrome/Mirror Signal Bulbs, Grant Revolutions Steering Wheel, PFADT Sport Springs, Sway Bars, End Links, Trailing Arms, 4 Wheel Alignment, Hurst Auto Shifter and Paddle Shifter, Satin Black Rear Tail Light Bezels

04-09-2012, 11:48 PM	#105
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	Love the FNG on the upper part. __________________

04-10-2012, 01:32 AM	#106
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	LOL showstopper! Light fuse, run away! __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

04-10-2012, 03:09 AM	#108
Vulpine 'the Outcast' Drives: N/A Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: N/A Posts: 116	LMFAO! All these hard-ons flyin' around here...geez Everyone must have forgotten that the ZL1 was the Z28 until the name change most likely based on the fact the V8 was supercharged and the performance was to close to a corvette. Unfortunately, though I hate to admit it...I am starting to believe that Jay Leno knows more than the average car guy when he said that the V6 twin-turbo from the SEMA 2009 would be a possible 'Z28' gasps for air I have always known the Z28 to be a V8 so those there were fightin' words in my book. However, I think with gas prices the way they are and performance technology the way its headed that chevy may actually concede to his fancy and make it so. Though I have to admit if any of you have seen his new video on Jay Leno's garage where he finally received that SEMA 2009 V6 Camaro and test drove it...'WOW' is all I can say about it. I prefer they call that a 'RS' or 'Berlinetta' or something and not a 'Z28' but do we really know or are we all just waiting for the BOMB to drop?

04-10-2012, 10:52 AM	#111
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	This is another entry into the "Camaro history" book. It will be handed down from generation to generation.

04-10-2012, 10:55 AM	#112
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	Okay, so who is going to be the first to remove the ZL1 badges and put Z28 badges on?

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