will there be a Z28 Camaro

[muriloalvares]

The shelby is nice I must admit, but the mustang is a cheap car compared to a camaro. Ford does a nice job on the trucks but there is simply no comparison between camaro and mustang. They may sell more because it's cheaper, well of course a cheaply made car will have a cheaper price at the end.

[Heaven_is_inferno_orange]

Originally Posted by Mr T

I agree--the military in this area prefer Camaros hands down..

I agree too. I see more and more Camaro's popping up on Fort Knox everyday.

[Banshee]

IMO...

GM should have NEVER produced the ZL1.

GM should have worked it's way up with a Z/28 first (LS7 track) and worked forward. GM is shooting themselves in the foot going for the all or nothing niche $58k plus ZL1 where I believe GM could have sold many more fun, usable streetable units with the Z/28.

There is a certain niche, a certain usable horsepower limit where a specific car outweighs the "fun factor". Tell me where the average guy will be able to plop down $55k plus on a Camaro and use the available horsepower (ZL1) whenever he wants without impunity?

The Z/28 with a superior handling package and a NA LS7 at around 500 HP coming in at around $45k is a more realistic vision AND version of what GM should have done. The "average guy" doesn't NEED 560 hp AND a $58k sticker...where can he use this car and have fun on a daily basis?

Seriously???

I applaud GM for bringing back an icon (ZL1) but factually the ZL1 sold how many units over the years based on regular production versus the Z/28?

If you are going to bring death back from the ashes, go with a moniker that people recognize, NOT a moniker that didn't sell well and is out of reach financially (especially in this economy) for most people.

[2cnd chance]

They'll be OK, as they will create the need for a mid pricepoint. Your right many will want a ZL1 however the price will be just too much. Hence it actually could create an even bigger audience for a mid 40's Z28.

Give me a Z28 as described in the Z28 threads.

[LOWDOWN]

The very first thread I created, here, back in April '09, was a "survey" of potential desire for a "halo" Camaro...less than 6 weeks after the first ones rolled out of Oshawa...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19666

The results showed a better-than-even split in desire for an LS7-engined version vs. a "boosted" version.

The GT 500 was already in the marketplace, garnering all manner of interest, and buyer$. And the "logical" hole to fill in the Camaro portfolio was a direct competitor for said Shelby. And yet, there was a great deal of interest in an LS7...in the very midst of Gen-5 Camaro hysteria.

Since then, something else has emerged from Ford...the BOSS. Something akin what we spoke of, a very long time ago...still unanswered...still sought...by Camaro comrades and Firebird friends...

...and STILL not available, largely, from ANYONE...

That long-suffering tap-tap-tapping, you hear? It's NOT the tinkling of a titanium rod against foreign matter. It's the clatter (some might say crescendo!) of "opportunity", continuing to "KNOCK"!

[Trevorw24]

Is there going to be a Z28??? It looks grim.

[jandaseve]

They really need an answer for both the boss 302 and the srt 392.

Lol @ the camaro being ugly. I think its looks are the main reason its outselling the challenger and mustang right now.

[VR Baron]

latest gmhtp Mag and their" inside" sources say z28 still in the works for 2012 or 2013. Will be lighter then SS, LS7 or 440 hp LS3. track ready stripped down version like 1le I guess. Made to battle the Boss Mustang and be about 41000. Just got issue. We'll see.

[Cam#7]

Take look at his thread today about discontinuing the IBM color. Fbodfather makes mention of the Oshawa plant producing Camaros, Equinoxs, Regals, Impalas and XTSs. This implies a couple of things. First, high production numbers of the Camaro Gen5 is not as important at this plant with this many models. Second, maybe there's an incentive to get the Gen6 moving faster than we think at the ATS plant. Third, maybe the Z/28 will have to wait on the Gen6.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=187972&page=3

[10CamaroIOM]

Originally Posted by jandaseve

They really need an answer for both the boss 302 and the srt 392.

Lol @ the camaro being ugly. I think its looks are the main reason its outselling the challenger and mustang right now.

And price, Challenger is the most expensive of the three.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by 10CamaroIOM

And price, Challenger is the most expensive of the three.

$55k for a ZL1, $50k for a GT500, $45k for a SRT8

How is the Challenger the most expensive?

[chevysno1]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

$55k for a ZL1, $50k for a GT500, $45k for a SRT8

How is the Challenger the most expensive?

First of all, where did you get the prize for 2013 GT 500 because Ford has not annouce it and the SRt is not in that category, it is mean"t to compete with the Boss Mustang .

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by chevysno1

First of all, where did you get the prize for 2013 GT 500 because Ford has not annouce it and the SRt is not in that category, it is mean"t to compete with the Boss Mustang .

Its their big daddy, loaded up with all the bells and whistles, and its the end of the line for factory Challenger performance. That puts it up against the GT500 and ZL1. It is most certainly not a track focused car with special attention payed to handling & braking over power. Thats what the Boss is, and thats what the Z28 should be. If Dodge wants to play there, they should bring out a Challenger T/A.


I don't have the price of the 2013 GT500. But then again, I don't have the price for the 2013 ZL1, or the 2013 Challenger SRT8 either ... so I just used 2012 pricing, rounded to the nearest $5000.

[goval]

A tuned SS that would compete with the SRT8's 6.4L. That would make sense to be the Z28, since the SS (which should have been the competitor) cannot compete.

Upgrades here and there on the suspension, gear, exhaust, etc... that would throw the current horsepower to the 6.4L's numbers.

The ZL1 is the competitor of the GT500. We don't have a competitor for the current SRT8, so a Z28 would only make sense.