New Wheels, alignment questions.

[Zaproy]

Hey guys, so I just got my new wheels on. They're 19x11 and 19x12, I'm also lowered on bc racing coilovers. Many people say I need to get an alignment done however, I have no idea what specs they need to be. Can anyone steer me in the right direction?

[SSJ455]

If you are getting new wheels and or tires spend the extra money and get an alignment. It is cheap insurance. Or ask the place if the car needs one before they do it. Some places are good and will tell you that it isn't necessary.

[Zaproy]

Well I want to get an alignment done, the wheels are on as of today, I'm just not sure what kind of specs I need or if the shop should be able to do it on their own?

[kmarshall2121]

did you get the wheels and coilovers at the same time? they may have done an alignment when you got the coils done if not. also, if goes down the street straight with no hands on the wheel, dont waste your money on an alignment.

[Zaproy]

No I first had springs and got an alignment done but they rode like shit so I got coilovers but didn't really lower it a lot more. I didn't get it realigned when I go the coilovers on though since my wheels were being built at the time and thought I might as well would wait. Right now though the car drives fine, handles fine it goes straight. That's why I wasn't sure if I should get it.

[Dizzy82]

Better to get it aligned or you may end up with uneven tire wear.

[Spec]

Get a lifetime alignment at your local firestone for under a couple of hundred bucks. Worth it in the long run if you've got a performance car.

These are for the 2010 SS... not sure if much different for your year;

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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71994

We are excited to see that many Camaro5 enthusiasts have now installed performance coil springs and handling packages.

We've noticed quite a few threads with questions about height and alignment for our products and others. We've put together a list of our testing numbers and experiences in order to help answer some of the more commonly asked questions. We are using numbers and images from our R&D and testing on customer cars. Due to the numerous Camaros we have modified and tested, we have built a nice data base of chassis variances and build tolerances. The bottom line is, the car is built with very tight tolerances. When compared to the earlier Camaros, the 5th gen is in a whole new league for fit and finish.

Perhaps some of the other shops and vendors can post their alignment advice as well, and this thread can be useful when speaking with alignment shops and dealerships. We want you to have the best experience possible with Hotchkis, from install to racetrack. If you find you have a question that isn't answered above, PM or call us. We want your input.



Our quick facts:

· With stock and our sport coils we have seen minute ride height variances, with most cars at or under 1/16” and only one with a corner measurement variance of 1/8”

· Even after 1000’s of punishing street and track miles we have not seen our sport coils settle. We design our coil springs to be low stressed and spec high tensile excellent quality steel to eliminate any possibility of material fatigue. Our coils are preset during manufacturing, compressed to coil bind to ensure proper load height, shot peened to relieve material stress and most important, are made in the USA.

· Below is a picture of the slotted strut mount standard on all Camaros. A good amount of camber adjustment is available without grinding or alignment hole modifications.



· So far we have not found it necessary to grind out any alignment holes to achieve a proper street/track performance alignment.

Alignment specs for the 2010 Camaro SS:

STOCK SPECIFICATIONS-STOCK SPRINGS

FRONT:

· CAMBER: 0° to -1.6°

· CASTER 6.70° - 7.10°

· TOE: 0 TO 1/8” TOTAL TOE IN

REAR:

· CAMBER: 0° to -1.0°

· TOE: 0 TO 1/8” TOTAL TOE IN


MEASUREMENT MINIMUMS & MAXIMUMS FOR HOTCHKIS SPORT COIL EQUIPPED VEHICLES

NOTE
These are not our recommended alignment specs. They represent the alignment range possible with our sport coils installed.

Note that increased neg. camber of the lowered car is beneficial to performance handling.


FRONT:

· CAMBER: -0.4° to -2.6°

REAR:

· CAMBER: -0.7° to -1.8°


HOTCHKIS PERFORMANCE STREET SETUP

FRONT:

· CAMBER: -1° to -1.4°

· CASTER 7.00° - 7.50°

· TOE: 1/16” TOTAL TOE IN

REAR:

· CAMBER: -0.8°

· TOE: 1/16” to 1/8” TOTAL TOE IN


HOTCHKIS TRACK DAY/STREET SETUP

FRONT:

· CAMBER: -2.0° to - 2.5°

· CASTER 7.00° - 7.50°

· TOE: 0 to 1/16” TOTAL TOE IN

REAR:

· CAMBER: -1.0° to - 1.25°

· TOE: 1/16” to 1/8” TOTAL TOE IN


We determined our recommended alignment settings through street and track testing using the stock Pirelli tires. These settings are a great place to start, offering acceptable tire wear and grip in a variety of performance driving conditions. Driving styles, track condition, tire selection, tire pressure and most importantly tire temperatures across the face of the tire are the determining factors of final alignment settings.

[Zaproy]

Thank you very much Spec, that's along the lines of what I was looking for. I'll probably go in tomorrow with this and see what they can do.

[Soybeanrice]

Firestone does lifetime alignment for lowered cars? As soon as I ask someone to put in specific specs for the alignment, they back out and tell me to go to a speed shop... They say their computer won't allow them to get the specs. Which is complete bs because I've done my own alignment before w/ a computer system.

[Spec]

Originally Posted by Soybeanrice

Firestone does lifetime alignment for lowered cars? As soon as I ask someone to put in specific specs for the alignment, they back out and tell me to go to a speed shop... They say their computer won't allow them to get the specs. Which is complete bs because I've done my own alignment before w/ a computer system.

Yes... at least the ones around the IE do. Too many lowered cars around here, I reckon, for them to deny them. Never had an issue getting my car up to specs and its already paid for its self on my end.

If they deny you, go to another firestone or call their corporate headquarters for more info perhaps?

I've built somewhat of a relationship with my local ones (Riverside and Pomona) and have had them install a few of my new tires. They'll only install tires you purchased elsewhere if they're new with the original tags. I've also purchased tires from them and had them install them for my Veloster.

[2014 Camaro ss 1le]

Originally Posted by Zaproy

Hey guys, so I just got my new wheels on. They're 19x11 and 19x12, I'm also lowered on bc racing coilovers. Many people say I need to get an alignment done however, I have no idea what specs they need to be. Can anyone steer me in the right direction?

Do you have pics of ur set up do u have a extreme poke on the rear?