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Old 04-03-2009, 09:37 AM   #57
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ummm....gm4life05sle......that GTO remake was rare because no one bought it because it looked like crap....lol.....of course its going to have crappy resale...it was a Fail! no one wanted it.....except maybe for the awesome horsepower.......lol.
This is a completly differn't story you have to remember............lol.....
If GM goes under soon. the current 5th gen will be a 'collectable' no doubt all you pre-order people that are getting or have your car already could resell it for probably double to triple what you paid for it or even more! and with that money you could design your own 6th or 7th gen........
personally im not that anxious about a 6th or 7th gen..........
and i will tell you why..........they are going to ruin it..........they are going to try and remake this 5th gen to be better and give it a face lift say 5 years down the road if not sooner and when they do its going to look like crap. Because they cant make it better, this is the best! they are not going to know how to make it better.lol
I cringe when people say 6th gen.
because they probably wont get it right again untill 8th or 9th gen......lol.
I mean come on, 1st and 2nd gen are nice! what the heck happend to the ones after that? o wait, it took them x amount of years to get it right again....

what they should do is build this car for 5 years and just stop.....just stop production like they did in 2002 so it does not get over flooded. and take the time for a break from it for a few years and make a good design and come back, they will get a ton of sales that way when it does come back, personally i think they should do that with every model car type out their.

Ford Mustangs already screwing up on theirs.lol.
You can all see it clearly in the 2010 Mustang if you dont know what im talking about,
it 'kindov looks like the 2005 remake' thats a sign its going downhill. People should be saying Thats a 2010 Mustang! It looks nothing like the 2005! lol.
The Ford Mustang is not Americas favorite, it is just the car that has been produced the longest and is very, very, very, over flooded the market........the 2010 Mustang makes me sick, their is no innovation their at all. I dont see how they keep selling those things to be honest.............lol.
If Ford was smart i would trick everyone out and stop production on the Mustang for 5-10years and then bring it back......i bet you the first year back they would sell a million of them.lol.
I understand your point about the GTO being bland. I also understand you not wanting a 6th gen because it will be ruined with small motor. How can you make the 2010-2015 Camaro any better? I just want the current gen to be as sucessful as possible.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:42 AM   #58
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Some people can only see whats in the mirror....anything beyond that is just not important to them.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:44 AM   #59
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Some people can only see whats in the mirror....anything beyond that is just not important to them.
Pretty much.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:53 AM   #60
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Huh, I believe that it would be on every corner in a couple of years, one of the reason that turned me away from the Camaro
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:53 AM   #61
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Soooooo we want to be realistic and learn a few lessons but not on our watch because you want a rare Camaro? I dont think that is going to save anything.....
Seems a little off to me..........

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I don't see it this way - I am on an even keel - I have not over spent and charged my credit card to the max or taken out all the eqity in my home to spend on short term "things" that will be worn out 20 years before i pay them off. -- 30 year money for 5 year toys. I want to buy a special car that i have always wanted since i was in high school. I drove a International Scout and a 1972 gmc pickup through high school and then college and still have the 72 pickup.
I hope for GM to become a strong American company again but i hope they will also focus on cars that compete with foreign companies, and the unions to be reasonable (if the "bigWigs" will be reasonable- Big wigs get too much money for the little they do), reduce our dependency on foreign oil and stop sending our dollars to foreigners that turn around and buy our businesses in America and take their revenues back to their country. Eventually they will own us someday. We need to keep our dollars here in America.

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Old 04-03-2009, 10:27 AM   #62
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:29 AM   #63
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I dont! God I hope they dont overproduce these things-I dont want to get the same reputation the Mustang has....ya know, Mustangs are like assholes? I dont want that not one little bit!
If that's your RL pic you're hot

And I agree with you... I don't want them everywhere... a few here and there is fine....
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:37 AM   #64
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Camaros will never sell like Accords, Camry's or SUVs.

But it needs to approach Mustang-like numbers. Those obsessed with owning a "rare" car need to save up and buy a Corvette. Those that are secure enough to not mind passing another Camaro every 10 minutes, buy one, customize it to make it unique...and POST PICS!!

Corvettes are not even rare anymore... I see them everywhere. If you want a "rare" car, you need to spend over 100k and get an "exotic" not a sports/muscle car.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:39 AM   #65
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I hope to see one on every corner of every street of every town. Twice!

And there's no reason it shouldn't happen like that.
There are two very appealing combinations: moderate performance plus high gas mileage, or high performance plus moderate gas mileage. Camaro's for everybody!!
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:51 AM   #66
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Here's the way I see it....

The new Camaro is like a beautiful woman. There can't be enough of them and I never get tired of looking at them.

If you are one of those that needs the "rare car" attention, then I hope you pre-ordered one. For the first year or so, the new Camaro will stand out and people will go out of their way to get a look at it. If that is what is most important to you, then get a pre-order Camaro and then sell it after 2 or 3 years.

If you are like me, you love the new Camaro for the beautiful piece of Engineering and architecture that it is. The fact that I can stare at this car for a 2 hour spell speaks volumes to it's masterful design. I would love to see one on every corner.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:54 AM   #67
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There may be a lot of Camaros rolling around, but don't forget some muscle heads prefer Challengers, Corvettes, Mustangs, etc,

Then you have the ricer crowd who is going to stick with the 370z, the Genesis, RX-8, STi's and EVO's.

The old ladies will still drive their buicks and the rednecks and friends from south of the border will drive their pickups.

Sure there will be a lot of Camaros, but even at it's highest concentration there will only be a handful per community and they will likely all be different.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:03 AM   #68
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Guess I'm in the minority on this one. I don't want it to be a rare car. I want other people to share my love of the car with and I want it to be a real success for GM.

But I don't want it to be watered down. And guess what? That doesn't make me pretentious or selfish. The 'Mirror' comment is stupid. You can't tell me that you don't enjoy your individuality. I help people any time I get a chance, I put my volunteer time in, I enjoy giving more than receiving. So I want to be different, that doesn't make me a bad person.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:08 AM   #69
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The Ford Mustang is not Americas favorite.
it's not? Really? can you reference your sources for this comment?

http://www.carracing.com/street/amer...ice-Award.html

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/mustan...wer-award.html

http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=28858

http://blog.vehiclevoice.com/2008/07...topacific.html

http://www.dexigner.com/product/news-g2974.html

http://news.infibeam.com/blog/news/2...ght_years.html
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:41 AM   #70
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I never like seeing an exact duplicate of my own car, but I think with the variety of base colors, stripes, RS, etc. the odds are low I'll drive by many that are mirror images of mine.
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