01-26-2011, 09:02 PM | #15 |
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well said coolman,,,welcome to the cooler side
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WOW.. did I just read this right??? The magazine testers that determined the Mustang GT COUPE... was a better car than the Camaro SS Coupe.. now have come back and said that the Mustang Convert... is better than the Camaro SS Convert...
BIG SURPRISE!!! Which would I buy.. well we already kno. What kicks me in the ass is that these two CONVERTIBLE Pony cars are pushing 0-60 time in 4.5-4.7 secs. Anyone in the kno would realize that this is phenomenal for Convertible cars in this class. As for the consolation.. for us Camaro lovers... Something that Mustang guys won't admit: How did a 4138 lb Camaro... come within 2/10s in the 60... 3/10s in the 1/4... BEAT the 3725 lb Mustang in the FIGURE 8, not to mention lateral gs.. AND out BRAKE it by 5 ft. Look at this quote from the comparo: Quote:
which makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever considering the numbers that were put up from both. They are essentially hating on the Camaro because of it's styling. |
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01-26-2011, 09:09 PM | #17 |
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01-26-2011, 09:16 PM | #18 |
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While I think the shifter is fine, I do agree that the steering wheel sucks. It boils down to personal preference, but I've never cared for it.
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01-26-2011, 09:21 PM | #19 |
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MT sucks
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01-26-2011, 09:25 PM | #20 | |
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While not by a huge margin, Camaro SS brakes have consistently performed better than those in the Mustag GT. As for the acceleration difference, to be blunt you get no extra credit for being chunky. Yes, the Mustang outruns the Camaro based primarily upon the weight difference, but then faster is faster no matter how you get there. I think the Camaro convertible suffers a bit here due to what appears to be a lot of chassis stiffening which adds a lot of weight. As for handling, in terms of sheer numbers the Camaro vert seems to have benefited a lot from that same added chassis bracing. However, on the flips side yet another possible downside to that chassis bracing might be the unsettled rear they talk about here. A stiffer rear and stiff springs can make a rear suspension that bounces around a little bounce around a lot. Given what seems to have been done on both sides of the equation here I'm not at all surprised to see the Camaro post better lateral G and figure 8 times than the Mustang, but I do question the strategy that brought that about. No doubt, Ford and Chevy are taking two vastly different approaches to how they tune their coupe and convertible models respectively. For some time now Ford has biased the GT vert noticeably toward the comfort side of the equation relative to the GT coupe even when they say they don't, Chevy doesn't appear to be taking the same approach. Put simply Ford obviously thinks convertible customers appreciate a softer touch, Chevy went a bit more hardcore with their drop top I will be curious to see how this plays out long term. Last edited by syr74; 01-26-2011 at 10:06 PM. |
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01-26-2011, 09:32 PM | #21 |
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wow now that I actually read the article. Haters gonna hate guys, haters gonna hate.
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01-26-2011, 09:37 PM | #22 |
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If I had any ability or input from a marketing stand point from Chevrolet, I wouldn't provide a damn thing to motortrend to do comparisons with. It's obvious by their articles in the past and present.. they have desire to out do Ford no matter the difference.
I'm sure Chevrolet could build the most hi performance car ever known to the states and motortrend would have absolutely nothing positive to say. "F" motortrend and all their bias opinions. Sent from my EVO 4G
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01-26-2011, 09:42 PM | #23 |
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Imagine what they'd say, then!
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01-26-2011, 10:05 PM | #24 |
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Did anyone notice the Ford ads all over the website?
"Ford Trend" Dont let anyone tell you differently from what you like. You like a Mustang, drive a Mustang, you like a Camaro? Same thing. Who are they to tell me what is better? its up to me. |
01-26-2011, 10:16 PM | #25 |
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MT seems to consider making their judgements based on a knob on the insturment panel in the wrong spot or if the cargo net held all the groceries in place. And this guy has the nerve to talk about the convertible leaking -- the same idiot that dons a fishermans rain suit and tests drives both cars in an inch an hour rainstorm!!! Yeah...that is the guy Im listening to......
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01-26-2011, 10:31 PM | #26 |
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It would be a very bad business decision to rank the Camaro higher. Under no scenario would that happen while Ford is their single largest advertising client. Don't bite the had that feeds you.
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01-26-2011, 10:40 PM | #27 |
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Catastrophic understeer? WTF? It is really sad that a magazine has let themselves become so partial. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Jornalism as a whole just plain sucks anymore. To hell with the truth, let's report our opinion as fact.
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01-26-2011, 11:15 PM | #28 |
lol motor trend is a freaking joke anyway..
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