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Mavtop · 09-16-2009, 11:23 PM

So my car is coming this next week, and I went into the dealership to work out the financing.

While reviewing the warranty and the finance guy finally folding and having the service manager come to talk with me bc I'm giving him the fifth degree about what will void my warranty, they tell me that:

"There is a computer on this car to measure if you race with it, and IF you race with this car you will void the warranty"

I'm thinking to myself this has to be a load of BS, since I've been reading the tuning posts like nonstop since I ordered this car.

Anyone know if there is ANY truth to this whatsoever?

Thanks

bluch · 09-16-2009, 11:31 PM

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-16-2009, 11:34 PM

He's trying to scare you.

IF you get into an accident, most new cars have a feature that will remember the last 30 seconds or so (last time I read about it, this was the quoted time...it may have changed) of driving history...speed, acceleration, throttle position, rpms, G's, etc, etc. For court and evidence reasons. But it can't tell whether you're racing or not, and 30 seconds after you leave the track, it'll forget anyways,

.

Just don't get into an accident while racing. That's a no-no.

v6sonoma · 09-16-2009, 11:41 PM

There is a data recorder that keeps track of things. Redline it for 20 mins till the engine blows and they will know and void your warranty. I don't know if speeding will void it but i would assume it could track wether or not the speed limiter was triggered and possibly how many times which could indicate a pattern of abuse. To my knowledge it mainly records the last few minutes of operation.

cyberbro · 09-16-2009, 11:54 PM

Yes, it's next to the flux capacitor!

JohnInSoCal · 09-16-2009, 11:57 PM

it seems guys are really worried about warranties on this site. The engine in the camaro is solid and tested. If something goes out on this thing I would more likely be things like window motors, wiper motors, etc. and they won't be voiding that stuff even if you do race or put on after market parts. I'm a little concerned over the auto transmission, not sure if thats been in service much but I am going to slap a supercharger on my camaro when I get it.

If you keep your camaro stock you have nothing to worry about with the warranty as far as how you drive it.

meanmike · 09-17-2009, 12:14 AM

I can tell you that my first visit to my Pontiac dealer for some routine maintenance on my G8 GT that upon completion the service manager came up to me and said if you werent driving that thing at 130mph your windshield might work properly. I looked at him and smiled and said I dont know anything about that he smiled and said of course not. So I would have to say most definitly.

bluman · 09-17-2009, 08:04 AM

I can tell you of an accident resulting in fatalities on Long Island (NY) a few years ago,
it was a Corvette drag racing if I remember correctly a Mercedes , driver of Corvette was convicted solely on the "black box" recording of his speed at impact which was 130 MPH, so, I DO believe that there is something like that (I believe it's the ONSTAR) but I dont think speed will void your warranty !

JohnInSoCal · 09-17-2009, 08:58 AM

most cars have these, it's part of the airbag deployment system.

http://autos.aol.com/article/car-black-box

bluedevil02 · 09-17-2009, 09:10 AM

he's full of it...did he mention the self-destruct button?

JohnInSoCal · 09-17-2009, 09:13 AM

most of the recorders only seem to log the last 5 seconds of data so not very useful for doing anything to the warranty but if you kill somebody in a crash and it shows you were going 140 MPH you could be in for some serious trouble as it has been used already to prosecute people.

Moorepheus · 09-17-2009, 09:16 AM

I don't get why all you guys are so against the idea that something might be in the car that tracks that information. The technology is there and is fairly cheap. My guess is it is very possible that there is some kind of tracking feature in the computer.

jamnutz · 09-17-2009, 09:16 AM

So the cars come with a competition mode to be able to launch it, but they will void your warranty for racing?? Does not compute. Probably wouldn't hold water in court due to Comp/Launch mode.

zebra · 09-17-2009, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamnutz

So the cars come with a competition mode to be able to launch it, but they will void your warranty for racing?? Does not compute. Probably wouldn't hold water in court due to Comp/Launch mode.

the 09 gt-r has a launch mode that oblitetates the transmission. the warranty guide specifically states that if this mode is used, your warranty is voided

09-16-2009, 11:23 PM	#1
Mavtop 2SS CGM with IOT Drives: 2010 2SS CGM with IOT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 66 View My Garage	Is there a 'black box' to record top speed to void warranty? So my car is coming this next week, and I went into the dealership to work out the financing. While reviewing the warranty and the finance guy finally folding and having the service manager come to talk with me bc I'm giving him the fifth degree about what will void my warranty, they tell me that: "There is a computer on this car to measure if you race with it, and IF you race with this car you will void the warranty" I'm thinking to myself this has to be a load of BS, since I've been reading the tuning posts like nonstop since I ordered this car. Anyone know if there is ANY truth to this whatsoever? Thanks

09-16-2009, 11:31 PM	#2
bluch OH CANADA! Drives: 2011 RAM 1500 LARAMIE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB, CAN Posts: 3,930 View My Garage	__________________ Had to trade in the Camaro for a truck :(, but hopefully I can join the Camaro family again one day

09-16-2009, 11:34 PM	#3
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	He's trying to scare you. IF you get into an accident, most new cars have a feature that will remember the last 30 seconds or so (last time I read about it, this was the quoted time...it may have changed) of driving history...speed, acceleration, throttle position, rpms, G's, etc, etc. For court and evidence reasons. But it can't tell whether you're racing or not, and 30 seconds after you leave the track, it'll forget anyways, . Just don't get into an accident while racing. That's a no-no. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

09-16-2009, 11:41 PM	#4
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	There is a data recorder that keeps track of things. Redline it for 20 mins till the engine blows and they will know and void your warranty. I don't know if speeding will void it but i would assume it could track wether or not the speed limiter was triggered and possibly how many times which could indicate a pattern of abuse. To my knowledge it mainly records the last few minutes of operation. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

09-16-2009, 11:54 PM	#5
cyberbro Drives: Not a Camaro at this time Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,056	Yes, it's next to the flux capacitor! __________________ Order Status: 2000 8/27/15 3000 9/3/15 2000 9/22/15 (Order changed) 2016 2SS With Auto, NPP, MRC, Nav, Split 5 Spoke Bright Aluminum.

09-16-2009, 11:57 PM	#6
JohnInSoCal Drives: RJT L99 500HP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 535	it seems guys are really worried about warranties on this site. The engine in the camaro is solid and tested. If something goes out on this thing I would more likely be things like window motors, wiper motors, etc. and they won't be voiding that stuff even if you do race or put on after market parts. I'm a little concerned over the auto transmission, not sure if thats been in service much but I am going to slap a supercharger on my camaro when I get it. If you keep your camaro stock you have nothing to worry about with the warranty as far as how you drive it.

09-17-2009, 12:14 AM	#7
meanmike Account Suspended Drives: FIRST ON RACE DAY Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,170	I can tell you that my first visit to my Pontiac dealer for some routine maintenance on my G8 GT that upon completion the service manager came up to me and said if you werent driving that thing at 130mph your windshield might work properly. I looked at him and smiled and said I dont know anything about that he smiled and said of course not. So I would have to say most definitly.

09-17-2009, 08:04 AM	#8
bluman Drives: '10 Corvette GS/'13 Mustang Join Date: May 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 636	I can tell you of an accident resulting in fatalities on Long Island (NY) a few years ago, it was a Corvette drag racing if I remember correctly a Mercedes , driver of Corvette was convicted solely on the "black box" recording of his speed at impact which was 130 MPH, so, I DO believe that there is something like that (I believe it's the ONSTAR) but I dont think speed will void your warranty ! __________________ 2010 Camaro SIM/CGM RS/2LT VIN #310 SOLD 2010 Corvette Grand Sport

09-17-2009, 08:58 AM	#9
JohnInSoCal Drives: RJT L99 500HP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 535	most cars have these, it's part of the airbag deployment system. http://autos.aol.com/article/car-black-box

09-17-2009, 09:10 AM	#10
bluedevil02 Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 844	he's full of it...did he mention the self-destruct button?

09-17-2009, 09:13 AM	#11
JohnInSoCal Drives: RJT L99 500HP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 535	most of the recorders only seem to log the last 5 seconds of data so not very useful for doing anything to the warranty but if you kill somebody in a crash and it shows you were going 140 MPH you could be in for some serious trouble as it has been used already to prosecute people.

09-17-2009, 09:16 AM	#12
Moorepheus Drives: 2013 Dodge Charge R/T Plus AWD Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Niagara Falls, NY Posts: 1,307 View My Garage	I don't get why all you guys are so against the idea that something might be in the car that tracks that information. The technology is there and is fairly cheap. My guess is it is very possible that there is some kind of tracking feature in the computer.

09-17-2009, 09:16 AM	#13
jamnutz Drives: 02 Formula/2010SS/many others Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bay St. Louis, Ms Posts: 127 View My Garage	So the cars come with a competition mode to be able to launch it, but they will void your warranty for racing?? Does not compute. Probably wouldn't hold water in court due to Comp/Launch mode. __________________ 2010 CGM 1SS/RS Kinda Modded?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEetM7I-vv8. 2002 Firebird Formula Built motor, sprayed like a cat in heat. 1987 Buick Turbo-T 72MM Bumper Scrapin Black Beast! 1991 GMC Syclone Built motor, big turbo, meth 99 Z28, Futral built stock CI LS1, TFS 215 heads, Fast 102/NW102, NX fogger, full suspension including anti roll bar, custom Rossler 4L60 with hybrid Auto/Manual VB, AC, just your every day 9 second street car.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4A141oh_jo New Project 90 Fox Body, LS1 Swap X-275 Race car. Shootin for the 4's.

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