11-25-2009, 12:27 AM | #29 |
I used to be Dragoneye...
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I'd just like to know the definition of "real"...I read this statement all too often, and I still don't get it.
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11-25-2009, 12:51 AM | #30 |
Booooosted.
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11-25-2009, 12:57 AM | #31 |
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it's not a real Z28 unless it has 2 valves and 8 pistons? work for ya? lmao.
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11-25-2009, 03:49 PM | #32 |
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How many Camaros have you owned? Z28 is not just a name. And a V6 has no buisness in it!
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11-25-2009, 04:07 PM | #33 |
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More than half of the SS's out there are automatic. There will be an automatic Z/28. And yes, no matter how much better it performs than a manual, it's still not a manual so it's not as 'hardcore' or whatever you want to call it.
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11-25-2009, 09:02 PM | #34 | |
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I said its just a badge because that's all the z/28 name has become. Sure the first generation were purpose built for road course's with its short stroke small displacement 302 and dual carbs, but after that it just became a name plate designating the higher end V8's. The Z/28 died in 1970 unless you want to believe the z/28's from the 70's, 80's and 90's stayed true to there heritage and were tearing up road course's right off the lot. The first gen Z's used a small, light weight, high revving engine and it paid off. No days you see forced induction and NA V6's tearing up the road course's better then most heavy V8's. Just look at how much better the V6 Camaro handles vs the SS, now stick a supercharger on it and go road racing just like the Shelby Terlingua, GTR, 911's and all FI DI 6's. The new V6 is alot more advanced then the LS series engine's with its direction injection and overhead cams and would make more scence in my book for a modern day Z/28 road course racer once to add some boost of course. |
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11-26-2009, 11:23 AM | #39 | |
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I'm not trying to convince the forums that the new Z should have a V6 its just my own opinion on how to make a modern day 3,800lb car go around a tight road course. |
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11-26-2009, 01:37 PM | #40 | |
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I don't think that's how the General is planning on handling things this time however - call it a hunch, but I think they really want to give us something special... Perhaps they have decided, due to history, that they want to push the Z/28 into the special status it's somehow become and make it like the GT500 is trying to be - a unique, one-of-a-kind "super" pony car... Just a thought, yanno? I thought the same way too - Note: My current vehicle is a 3.4L V6 with a Tremec 5-spd Manual Transmission. I hate, *hate-hate-hate-hate* the automatic in the 4th gen, its really sloppy (even the v8, I've driven a few and been driven in a few, even modified. It is NOT the same)... Then I actually drove a 2ss with the paddle shifters (for 4 days, up and down the 110, 101, 405, 10, 118, etc - through rush hour, through streets and alleys, in parking lots and everywhere else that a car would normally go). Seriously the option is the closest thing to a manual that I have ever experienced - shifts are crisp and quick and theres no lag or softness. I put it in M everytime I got in the car, I NEVER ONCE used D - and I was shifting all the time (and having way to much fun). Felt extremely natural and easy to do and I felt totally in control - could even downshift to take a corner and then punch it out of the apex and shift as the RPMs settled in the gear I was in - total control. The auto in the new Camaro has made me rethink my position on buying an auto or a manual, and I think before you knock it - you need to go out and try it.
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11-26-2009, 01:51 PM | #41 | |
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but my point about the weight still hasn't been addressed. if you have a TTv6 pushing 425 hp. the tubing and intercoolers will quickly negate that weight advantage of the v-6. which in essance will destroy that handling ability advantage. even if the LSA is put in the camaro the hp/lb ratio is improved and the accelration will compensate for the minor weight hike. but this thread was about the auto tranny. which the auto will ad even more weight. so tell me how that would effect handling? obviously not hurting it at all. because the auto is faster then the manual in CTSV form. |
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11-26-2009, 07:56 PM | #42 |
I used to be Dragoneye...
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Though the automatic would add weight, it's mounted mere inches from the ground. It will improve the vehicles overall center of gravity, and likely effect handling none-at-all.
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