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Michael Rophone · 10-04-2012, 09:10 PM

I have a Monday-After-Thanksgiving build date (11/28/11).
If anyone's going to have problems, it is I.

Therefore, no rain allowed and top stays up ...but it's still loads of miles & smiles.

Ocikat · 10-04-2012, 09:48 PM

For what it's worth,......

I haven't had any huge problems with my top so far though in all honesty I don't use it as much as most, I asked Scott & Al about the top issues at Cfest in Indy and was told I should wait till spring of next year. They didn't elaborate on that any further. I have confidence that Chevrolet/GM does want to fix issues customers have been having and will engineer a good and correct solution. I certainly don't have any numbers or facts to back me up but I don't believe every top produced has been having problems, certainly enough to have concerns, but not enough to sell my convertible or to keep me from purchasing one.

I ordered mine early in July, would have to check on the exact build date but probably August of 11

BLACKCAMARO2SS · 10-04-2012, 10:17 PM

I would go for it. I ordered my car in early July 2011 knowing about top issues. My car was built August 24th 2011 and has had very minor issues with the top. I have very faint rubbing not enough to worry about. I have seen many other cars on the road with worse tops. If you like the 45th as much as I did I would not hesitate. I love everything about this car. I get more compliments and LOOKS than my 2010 SS. Good luck what ever your choice.

'11 cyber grey vert · 10-04-2012, 10:21 PM

I have an April 26,2011 produced vert.I have had the typical problems.5th bow replaced and Water management bag replaced.The repairs must be done by someone with convertible top experience.It has been about 3-4 months or so since the water management bag replacement and 5-6 months since the 5th bow replacement.The roof seems to be okay and I lower the roof every chance I get.There has been zero other issues with the car.I currently have about 6200 miles on it.I absolutely love my vert!!!
I think GM is working on solving the issues as indicative by the # of top revisions.If you are concerned I think it is best to order a 2013 MY and choose the colour/options that you will enjoy.The 2013's have touchscreen nav available, which is a first ever for the camaro and as of 2012 back up camera, so there maybe features that you would enjoy that are available on the 2013's.I say go for a 2013.

He11bent · 10-05-2012, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minge

I really like the look and the build of the 45th but the top issues concern me to say the least. I think I can get a really good deal on it as the dealer really wants to move it. If I do not buy this I am ordering a 2ss/rs but that will be about 5 grand more I think so it is significant. I spoke to the dealer about the known top issues and of course they said they can't fix what isn't broken. Any pearls of wisdom here folks? I really want something unique and the 45th is just that but I do not want to buy trouble here.

I base the decision for purchasing used cars on (1) how many miles are on the car (i.e. how many miles left on the warranty). I like to have cushion in case I run into any problems. (2) buy the carfax - I know not everything is on the carfax but most thing are on it, and there really aren't many other options (3) the price compared to new.

I bought my vert used with ~9k miles at 7 months old. I knew about the top issues but bought it anyway. At ~16k miles the top was replaced under warranty. Seems GM was giving quite a bit of resistance before stepping up in the beginning...don't hear too much of that any more.

The vert is an amazing car to drive and to own! I have the lid dropped all the time! Good luck!

NickZ28 · 10-06-2012, 07:18 AM

My 2SS 45th vert has had no top issues. If you want it, get it.

'11 cyber grey vert · 10-06-2012, 07:44 AM

[QUOTE=He11bent;5659715]I bought my vert used with ~9k miles at 7 months old. I knew about the top issues but bought it anyway. At ~16k miles the top was replaced under warranty. Seems GM was giving quite a bit of resistance before stepping up in the beginning...don't hear too much of that any more.

I tend to agree.It looks like GM is giving less resistance lately.I even had a phone call from GM Canada corporate(not the customer service)but much higher up the food chain.in the beginning, when I was having my roof troubles,GM Canada was still in denial that some tops were having issues.With my most recent call from corporate, they admitted to me verbally that some earlier builds have reported problems and GM Canada corporate said they will try to make it right by doing what they can for me even outside of the warranty period.I was pushing them for an extended warranty on the top to no avail at this point.GM Canada has not issued any extended top warranties to this point.But at least GM is admitting to problems and trying to resolve them.

The key to a good repair is the technicians working on your top must have convertible top experience.These tops are complicated, and its nothing like changing the brakes.

its a syn · 10-06-2012, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minge

I really like the look and the build of the 45th but the top issues concern me to say the least. I think I can get a really good deal on it as the dealer really wants to move it. If I do not buy this I am ordering a 2ss/rs but that will be about 5 grand more I think so it is significant. I spoke to the dealer about the known top issues and of course they said they can't fix what isn't broken. Any pearls of wisdom here folks? I really want something unique and the 45th is just that but I do not want to buy trouble here.

My dealer Duea motors in Albia has a 45th SS/RS conv. don't know the build date. They've had it for a long time.

Bcarr · 10-13-2012, 09:02 PM

Men was built in November of 2011 as well. No issues to his point and the top has been down often. Go for it! I love mine!!!

Falundir · 10-19-2012, 10:24 AM

My 45th has rub marks and wind noise but no water issues. My intent is to have the top replaced in about a year when I am certain they have the top issue fixed. I've discussed this with my dealer and they are on board.

SSTOKED · 10-19-2012, 10:58 AM

It all depends on how fussy you are. I've had my 2011 top replaced with the latest redesign released on 6/27/2012 (with the new tension cables) and the new water bag. So far so good but I just noticed a bad spot that C5 user EM9IRE found. Here are my threads showing old and new bag and top along with the new issue that just popped up. I don't have problems now but I suspect the saga is not over.

If you are real fussy then I would stay away from the older ones and order a new one. If you don't mind minor rub marks that are inherent to rag tops and don't mind keeping your eye on them within the warranty period to make sure they are just rub marks and not future holes then get the car.

With regard to leaks, if the car was built sometime after Feb 2012 you stand a better chance of not getting a leaker. Also, I would have the dealer spray water on the top with a garden hose for a good 10-15 minutes and then inspect the rear floor pans about 30 minutes later to make sure the carpet is dry.

New vs. Old Water Bag:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235016

New Top vs. Old Top:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248940

New Issue Discovered Yesterday:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256130

Twilborne · 10-19-2012, 12:17 PM

If you like and want it just buy it. It will be just fine.

United_727 · 10-19-2012, 03:35 PM

I'm glad I didnt order the 'vert in '11 . Waiting til the spring to get one . Hopefully the issues will be worked out by trhen.

spikess581 · 10-19-2012, 06:25 PM

Buy it already! Chances are you will be ok but if not it can be fixed. I know of which I speak believe me. Go for and worry about it if it breaks just be prepared to do your research and you have already know where you can find the answers. I went thru some bad crap with mine but I kept a positive attitude( most of the time) and I love the crap out of my car so become a brother or sister and treat yourself to a whole lot of smiles!

10-04-2012, 09:48 PM	#16
Ocikat Drives: 2012 2LT 45th convertible Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 949	For what it's worth,...... I haven't had any huge problems with my top so far though in all honesty I don't use it as much as most, I asked Scott & Al about the top issues at Cfest in Indy and was told I should wait till spring of next year. They didn't elaborate on that any further. I have confidence that Chevrolet/GM does want to fix issues customers have been having and will engineer a good and correct solution. I certainly don't have any numbers or facts to back me up but I don't believe every top produced has been having problems, certainly enough to have concerns, but not enough to sell my convertible or to keep me from purchasing one. I ordered mine early in July, would have to check on the exact build date but probably August of 11 Attached Images __________________ Top Ten Reasons I Procrastinate 1.

10-04-2012, 10:17 PM	#17
BLACKCAMARO2SS Drives: 50TH ANNIVERSARY 2SS CONVERTIBLE Join Date: May 2011 Location: NEW JERSEY Posts: 329	I would go for it. I ordered my car in early July 2011 knowing about top issues. My car was built August 24th 2011 and has had very minor issues with the top. I have very faint rubbing not enough to worry about. I have seen many other cars on the road with worse tops. If you like the 45th as much as I did I would not hesitate. I love everything about this car. I get more compliments and LOOKS than my 2010 SS. Good luck what ever your choice. Last edited by BLACKCAMARO2SS; 10-04-2012 at 10:38 PM.

10-19-2012, 10:58 AM	#25
SSTOKED Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: May 2012 Location: Webster, NY Posts: 283	It all depends on how fussy you are. I've had my 2011 top replaced with the latest redesign released on 6/27/2012 (with the new tension cables) and the new water bag. So far so good but I just noticed a bad spot that C5 user EM9IRE found. Here are my threads showing old and new bag and top along with the new issue that just popped up. I don't have problems now but I suspect the saga is not over. If you are real fussy then I would stay away from the older ones and order a new one. If you don't mind minor rub marks that are inherent to rag tops and don't mind keeping your eye on them within the warranty period to make sure they are just rub marks and not future holes then get the car. With regard to leaks, if the car was built sometime after Feb 2012 you stand a better chance of not getting a leaker. Also, I would have the dealer spray water on the top with a garden hose for a good 10-15 minutes and then inspect the rear floor pans about 30 minutes later to make sure the carpet is dry. New vs. Old Water Bag: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235016 New Top vs. Old Top: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248940 New Issue Discovered Yesterday: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256130 __________________ HISTORY: Born on 4/26/2011 Partially reborn on 7/3/2012 (water bag upgrade) Complete rebirth 8/27/2012 (new 6/27/2012 revision top installed, new carpet, new tonneau cover and new third brake light) MODS: Solo Performance Exhaust: Axle Back with J-Pipes

10-19-2012, 03:35 PM	#27
United_727 Parts Guru Extraordinair. Drives: '02 SS 'Vert M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,184	I'm glad I didnt order the 'vert in '11 . Waiting til the spring to get one . Hopefully the issues will be worked out by trhen. __________________ Please check out my other hobby ; http://jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=1008

10-04-2012, 09:10 PM	#15
Michael Rophone Drives: Yes Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: PA Posts: 646	I have a *Monday-After-Thanksgiving* build date (11/28/11). If anyone's going to have problems, it is I. Therefore, no rain allowed and top stays up ...but it's still loads of miles & smiles.

10-04-2012, 10:21 PM	#18
'11 cyber grey vert "SHARK" Born Apr.26,2011 Drives: 2011 CGM 2LT/RS Convertible Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mississauga,Ontario Posts: 870	I have an April 26,2011 produced vert.I have had the typical problems.5th bow replaced and Water management bag replaced.The repairs must be done by someone with convertible top experience.It has been about 3-4 months or so since the water management bag replacement and 5-6 months since the 5th bow replacement.The roof seems to be okay and I lower the roof every chance I get.There has been zero other issues with the car.I currently have about 6200 miles on it.I absolutely love my vert!!! I think GM is working on solving the issues as indicative by the # of top revisions.If you are concerned I think it is best to order a 2013 MY and choose the colour/options that you will enjoy.The 2013's have touchscreen nav available, which is a first ever for the camaro and as of 2012 back up camera, so there maybe features that you would enjoy that are available on the 2013's.I say go for a 2013.

10-06-2012, 07:18 AM	#20
NickZ28 Drives: 2012 45th Anniversary SS Convert Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 26	My 2SS 45th vert has had no top issues. If you want it, get it.

10-06-2012, 07:44 AM	#21
'11 cyber grey vert "SHARK" Born Apr.26,2011 Drives: 2011 CGM 2LT/RS Convertible Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mississauga,Ontario Posts: 870	[QUOTE=He11bent;5659715]I bought my vert used with ~9k miles at 7 months old. I knew about the top issues but bought it anyway. At ~16k miles the top was replaced under warranty. Seems GM was giving quite a bit of resistance before stepping up in the beginning...don't hear too much of that any more. I tend to agree.It looks like GM is giving less resistance lately.I even had a phone call from GM Canada corporate(not the customer service)but much higher up the food chain.in the beginning, when I was having my roof troubles,GM Canada was still in denial that some tops were having issues.With my most recent call from corporate, they admitted to me verbally that some earlier builds have reported problems and GM Canada corporate said they will try to make it right by doing what they can for me even outside of the warranty period.I was pushing them for an extended warranty on the top to no avail at this point.GM Canada has not issued any extended top warranties to this point.But at least GM is admitting to problems and trying to resolve them. The key to a good repair is the technicians working on your top must have convertible top experience.These tops are complicated, and its nothing like changing the brakes.

10-13-2012, 09:02 PM	#23
Bcarr Drives: 2012 Camaro SS 45th Convertible Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hartland, WI Posts: 271	Men was built in November of 2011 as well. No issues to his point and the top has been down often. Go for it! I love mine!!!

10-19-2012, 10:24 AM	#24
Falundir Drives: 2017 1SS 1LE - Hyper Blue, P85DL Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: East Bay Posts: 2,189 View My Garage	My 45th has rub marks and wind noise but no water issues. My intent is to have the top replaced in about a year when I am certain they have the top issue fixed. I've discussed this with my dealer and they are on board.

10-19-2012, 12:17 PM	#26
Twilborne Drives: 2013 Blue Ray Blue 2LT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orange Park, Fl. Posts: 376 View My Garage	If you like and want it just buy it. It will be just fine.

10-19-2012, 06:25 PM	#28
spikess581 Drives: IOM2SSconvertible,64 malibu,04fxdwg Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bristol Pa Posts: 356	Buy it already! Chances are you will be ok but if not it can be fixed. I know of which I speak believe me. Go for and worry about it if it breaks just be prepared to do your research and you have already know where you can find the answers. I went thru some bad crap with mine but I kept a positive attitude( most of the time) and I love the crap out of my car so become a brother or sister and treat yourself to a whole lot of smiles!