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snapp32e · 06-09-2015, 01:05 PM

So long story short, my bolt on mods lsa grenaded on me. After pulling the plugs I found multiple signs of internal damage and piston contact with what I can only assume is valves. Ran a scope in a couple of cylinders and the the piston tops also show severe damage. In other words, she's complete rebuild time.

What I've got into it so far :

-CAI
-Cat delete, ceramic coated Kooks
-102mm throttle body
-Ported blower inlet
-Upper/Lower pulley swap
-85lb injectors
-Boost a pump
-Dual fan oversized intercooler
-160 thermo
-Dyno tune

All my add ons are good to go. My plans are to completely do the internals now granted the block is ok. Crank, heads, rods, pistons and cam. Then throw all my other bolt ons back in again. Obviously not replacing the stock internals with OEM but was going with lingenfelter forged parts. Essentially make it bullet proof.

My question is if given this situation would anyone just consider doing a complete engine swap? Say an LSX or is the LSA considered a worthy enough engine to be dumping another 15k into? Would like to shoot for ~850ish RWHP.

Don't wanna discuss what happened or why it happened that it blew up, just want some other ideas and opinions from guys on here who have some more insight into this type of situation.

Thanks in advance.

nighttowl · 06-09-2015, 01:58 PM

The LSA block has thicker cylinder walls for boosted applications.
Do you know yet if the block is damaged?

ZL1Kid_AL · 06-09-2015, 02:12 PM

I've read that the LSX 376 crate engine would be the best small block engine you can buy in terms of LS motors. A lot of swapped TT, Single Turbo, Procharger cars out running with that block and seem to all have over 900whp easy
And for 12k you can get a complete drop in LSX376 ready to go..

Stoneb1 · 06-09-2015, 02:25 PM

Been there, done that. I went LSX 376 B15. ADM did the work and had a thread about it a couple of months ago.

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Mechzl1 · 06-09-2015, 03:00 PM

Bummer... how many miles did you have post mods before she blew

snapp32e · 06-09-2015, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nighttowl

The LSA block has thicker cylinder walls for boosted applications.
Do you know yet if the block is damaged?

Not sure yet. Externally...looks fine. That being said the coolant all dumped into the pan and into one of the cylinders so....Fingers crossed it's a head and not a rod through the cylinder wall.

revobasher · 06-09-2015, 03:11 PM

How much power were you making? What mods?

Was it the tune??

I haven't heard of too many blown engines who just bolt ons.

snapp32e · 06-09-2015, 03:11 PM

Had about 7500km post mod. 15000km on the car. Unfortunate Yup.

snapp32e · 06-09-2015, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revobasher

How much power were you making? What mods?

Was it the tune??

I haven't heard of too many blown engines who just bolt ons.

Mods are listed above. 625rwhp 665tq. I don't know if it was the tune or not. It was back in for a couple of retunes before it went but I don't wanna point any fingers at any shop. Although this was the first ZL1 they had worked on, they've tuned a many CTSV with great success. So hopefully it wasn't.

Trackman · 06-09-2015, 09:27 PM

850rw is a lofty goal. Not many cars running around with that kinda power. Build a 417 with your LSA block if your reusing the blower. You'll need a complete fuel system to get there. If you go LSX it will handle any bigger plans you might have in the future.

06-09-2015, 01:05 PM	#1
snapp32e Drives: '81-Z28/'07-Tundra/'12-ZL1/'13-Jeep Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 529	Engine options?? So long story short, my bolt on mods lsa grenaded on me. After pulling the plugs I found multiple signs of internal damage and piston contact with what I can only assume is valves. Ran a scope in a couple of cylinders and the the piston tops also show severe damage. In other words, she's complete rebuild time. What I've got into it so far : -CAI -Cat delete, ceramic coated Kooks -102mm throttle body -Ported blower inlet -Upper/Lower pulley swap -85lb injectors -Boost a pump -Dual fan oversized intercooler -160 thermo -Dyno tune All my add ons are good to go. My plans are to completely do the internals now granted the block is ok. Crank, heads, rods, pistons and cam. Then throw all my other bolt ons back in again. Obviously not replacing the stock internals with OEM but was going with lingenfelter forged parts. Essentially make it bullet proof. My question is if given this situation would anyone just consider doing a complete engine swap? Say an LSX or is the LSA considered a worthy enough engine to be dumping another 15k into? Would like to shoot for ~850ish RWHP. Don't wanna discuss what happened or why it happened that it blew up, just want some other ideas and opinions from guys on here who have some more insight into this type of situation. Thanks in advance. __________________ ZL1 #612

06-09-2015, 01:58 PM	#2
nighttowl Sarcasm loading -------- Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: TX Posts: 1,808 View My Garage	The LSA block has thicker cylinder walls for boosted applications. Do you know yet if the block is damaged? __________________ "The salesman actually told me to stop getting it sideways during the test drive" 2018 MBM ZL1 1LE - Stock 2014 CRT ZL1 574 rwhp, 537 rwtq - SOLD 2010 IBM SS Camaro VVT L99 w/ TR6060 swap, 489 rwhp, 444 rwtq - SOLD

06-09-2015, 02:12 PM	#3
ZL1Kid_AL Drives: 2014 ZL1- Summit White M6 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 462	I've read that the LSX 376 crate engine would be the best small block engine you can buy in terms of LS motors. A lot of swapped TT, Single Turbo, Procharger cars out running with that block and seem to all have over 900whp easy And for 12k you can get a complete drop in LSX376 ready to go.. __________________ 750whp @ 13psi Garage Built on Jack Stands.. 850++ 100 shot of sauce

06-09-2015, 02:25 PM	#4
Stoneb1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Fort worth, tx Posts: 62	Been there, done that. I went LSX 376 B15. ADM did the work and had a thread about it a couple of months ago. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ LSX, BTR stg 3, ID850, CAI, 1 7/8 ARH LT no cats, 2.50" upper, 8.25" lower, Ron Davis Hx, Fluidyne oil cooler, 662 rwhp 601 rwtq

06-09-2015, 03:11 PM	#7
revobasher Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Blaine, MN Posts: 552	Engine options?? How much power were you making? What mods? Was it the tune?? I haven't heard of too many blown engines who just bolt ons. __________________ -- 2013 ZL1 - Blue Ray Metallic JDP 850 Package 740hp/700tq @14lbs on E85 Build Thread

06-09-2015, 03:00 PM	#5
Mechzl1 Drives: 2013 Black ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: California Posts: 118	Bummer... how many miles did you have post mods before she blew

06-09-2015, 09:27 PM	#10
Trackman Drives: 67RS Camaro ,Black 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,408	850rw is a lofty goal. Not many cars running around with that kinda power. Build a 417 with your LSA block if your reusing the blower. You'll need a complete fuel system to get there. If you go LSX it will handle any bigger plans you might have in the future.