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Gangster · 07-24-2010, 07:52 PM

I work in a Ford dealer and we recently sold a new 5.0 mustang. this week it got towed in for a no start and upon examination we found the customer had installed a cold air intake, after getting into the pcm we found it was blown up so my manager called the customer whos father is a good friend and told him to come clean. he said someone tuned it for him and shortly after it started to throw codes and act funny so he tried to shoot the original tune back in and it died. we had to replace the pcm and when my manager spoke to ford he was told that there are alot more restrictions on the 2010 and newer cars and included the camaro when he said that you cant retune or untune it without the pcm locking up.
is there any truth to this???

JANNETTYRACING · 07-24-2010, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangster

I work in a Ford dealer and we recently sold a new 5.0 mustang. this week it got towed in for a no start and upon examination we found the customer had installed a cold air intake, after getting into the pcm we found it was blown up so my manager called the customer whos father is a good friend and told him to come clean. he said someone tuned it for him and shortly after it started to throw codes and act funny so he tried to shoot the original tune back in and it died. we had to replace the pcm and when my manager spoke to ford he was told that there are alot more restrictions on the 2010 and newer cars and included the camaro when he said that you cant retune or untune it without the pcm locking up.
is there any truth to this???

Definately not on the GMs or Chryslers, and as far as I know the Fords are no Problem when using SCT.

May have been an aftermarket software crash.

Ted.

Gangster · 07-24-2010, 08:33 PM

thanks, im just concerned that ill be able to retouch the tune as I add more mods.
I figured if there was a problem id have heard about it by now

06MonteSS_2 · 07-24-2010, 08:33 PM

yeah... not with GM's... can definitely re-tune them without them locking up...

Iomcamaro · 07-25-2010, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangster

I work in a Ford dealer and we recently sold a new 5.0 mustang. this week it got towed in for a no start and upon examination we found the customer had installed a cold air intake, after getting into the pcm we found it was blown up so my manager called the customer whos father is a good friend and told him to come clean. he said someone tuned it for him and shortly after it started to throw codes and act funny so he tried to shoot the original tune back in and it died. we had to replace the pcm and when my manager spoke to ford he was told that there are alot more restrictions on the 2010 and newer cars and included the camaro when he said that you cant retune or untune it without the pcm locking up.
is there any truth to this???

Well there is your problem. lol

Naw, i'm just kidding. I've never heard of such a thing. There are tons of people on here that have tuned and untuned their cars.

Eric Baker · 07-25-2010, 12:19 PM

Well did Ford warranty it?

DSteck · 07-25-2010, 12:23 PM

Absolute load of scare tactic crap.

Slowhawk · 07-25-2010, 09:05 PM

Any tuning software could fry a computer but most of the time it's the usser's fault.

Michael_Js · 07-25-2010, 09:19 PM

Haven't had any issues - many tunes, retune, back to stock, retune...

only issue was the cable got tweaked and caused a bus error - car would not start, but did not fry anything...

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-25-2010, 09:20 PM

The computer systems have advanced...but I've never heard of one locking up...I know they'll record a tuning change...but not freeze.

Gangster · 07-27-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Baker

Well did Ford warranty it?

Nope, made him pay for a new pcm

GaryTucker · 07-27-2010, 11:04 AM

Good for Ford! Maybe the "victim" needs to go back to their tuner for reimbursement.

kelley@vectormotorsports · 07-27-2010, 12:41 PM

We have yet to kill a new E38 or E68 ECM they are pretty robust units.

07-24-2010, 07:52 PM	#1
Gangster Camaro Crazy Drives: 2010 1SS/RS IBM/Grey M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Westchester,New York Posts: 202	anybody heard about restrictions on tuning? I work in a Ford dealer and we recently sold a new 5.0 mustang. this week it got towed in for a no start and upon examination we found the customer had installed a cold air intake, after getting into the pcm we found it was blown up so my manager called the customer whos father is a good friend and told him to come clean. he said someone tuned it for him and shortly after it started to throw codes and act funny so he tried to shoot the original tune back in and it died. we had to replace the pcm and when my manager spoke to ford he was told that there are alot more restrictions on the 2010 and newer cars and included the camaro when he said that you cant retune or untune it without the pcm locking up. is there any truth to this???

07-24-2010, 08:33 PM	#4
06MonteSS_2 Account Suspended Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: CT Posts: 41	yeah... not with GM's... can definitely re-tune them without them locking up... Last edited by 06MonteSS_2; 07-30-2010 at 07:23 AM.

07-25-2010, 09:19 PM	#9
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,299 View My Garage	Haven't had any issues - many tunes, retune, back to stock, retune... only issue was the cable got tweaked and caused a bus error - car would not start, but did not fry anything... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

07-25-2010, 09:20 PM	#10
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	The computer systems have advanced...but I've never heard of one locking up...I know they'll record a tuning change...but not freeze. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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