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Steve Dallas · 09-25-2012, 11:49 AM

Heck, I wouldn't consider LeBron better than some other players such as Magic Johnson and a couple of others.

So better than Jordan? Absolutely not.

SUKXOST · 10-11-2012, 10:33 PM

Lebron is a sell out that couldn't do it on his own merit and chased a championship much like a lot of NBA players do at the very end of their career when they have not won one. Michael Jordan played with garbage teams for years before he won one and still one faster than LeBron did. As I've mentioned, Scottie Pippen was not even an all Star when Jordan won his first championship. The best center the bulls ever had in any of his championship years were mediocre at best.
Michael Jordan was absolutely the best player with the ball in his hands and still won six championships in a triangle offense that relies on absolute ball movement through all five players. The best players now are all about isolation plays or a two man game.
With Jordan in his prime in today's league he would average 35 to 42 points every single year for a decade without question. That exact scenario was opposed to many of today's players and coaches and players that played in Jordan's era and they all say same thing

Renegade · 10-11-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SUKXOST

Lebron is a sell out that couldn't do it on his own merit and chased a championship much like a lot of NBA players do at the very end of their career when they have not won one. Michael Jordan played with garbage teams for years before he won one and still one faster than LeBron did. As I've mentioned, Scottie Pippen was not even an all Star when Jordan won his first championship. The best center the bulls ever had in any of his championship years were mediocre at best.
Michael Jordan was absolutely the best player with the ball in his hands and still won six championships in a triangle offense that relies on absolute ball movement through all five players. The best players now are all about isolation plays or a two man game.
With Jordan in his prime in today's league he would average 35 to 42 points every single year for a decade without question. That exact scenario was opposed to many of today's players and coaches and players that played in Jordan's era and they all say same thing

Dude working with Hakeen Olajuwon. And perfecting his famous hook shot to use in his arsonal.

SUKXOST · 10-12-2012, 05:00 AM

Did MJ ever have to work with someone whos been retired for 15 years to improve his game? NOPE Didnt have to....MJ posted up more than any 2 guard in history bc he had a better post game than most center in history and he was 6' 6".

MR 45TH · 10-12-2012, 08:01 AM

Never!

rhunley14 · 10-12-2012, 07:04 PM

Sukxost are you telling me mj would have done as good without pippen?

Renegade · 10-12-2012, 07:50 PM

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Sukxost are you telling me mj would have done as good without pippen?

MJ and Pippen is the dynamic duo. MJ made pippen better and his team around him as a whole. That's the difference between Jordan and Lechoke.

Mutant Racer · 10-12-2012, 08:10 PM

No. Jordan had 1 characteristic that separated him from all others...the man had a will and determination that is incredibly rare. We are talking about the ultra-super competitive Alpha. If you gathered 100 of the greatest players of all-time Jordan would stand out as the most driven, the hardest working, and the most confident.

Lebron is also in a class of his own. A gifted natural and he deserves a lot of respect for the game he plays but Jordan would crush him. Lebron doesn't have the mental capacity to handle the unstoppable. MJ would beat him before he ever took the floor.

NavyDood · 10-12-2012, 08:28 PM

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If you gathered 100 of the greatest players of all-time Jordan would stand out as the most driven, the hardest working, and the most confident.

Totally agree. Another is Jerry Rice. No other receiver has been as focused or conditioned (mentally and physically) as Jerry IMO

Mutant Racer · 10-13-2012, 07:29 PM

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Totally agree. Another is Jerry Rice. No other receiver has been as focused or conditioned (mentally and physically) as Jerry IMO

Oh Rice for sure! Muhammad Ali would be another. Athletes who define their entire sport.

SUKXOST · 10-13-2012, 07:31 PM

^^^ Earnhardt; Gretzky; Ruth...

DRKS1D3 · 10-17-2012, 11:52 AM

Define great.

For those that are not old enough and simply know Michael Jordan through stats via the internet, here is the deal. I remember in grade school and middle school that almost every boy had some sort of Chicago Bulls/Jordan apparel (shirts, jackets, hats, shoes, bookbags, posters, etc., etc. and I'm from Pittsburgh). You could rarely turn the TV on without seeing Michael on it. Jordan was larger than life itself. He was larger than any other sports star, movie star, famous person X's 100. He was a gamer, a competitor, a winner. He made everybody around him play better. That being said, I don't ever see anybody else taking the world by storm like that. Every young kid wanted to be Michael Jordan.

He was the man! FYI: I'm not even a pro basketball fan, but Jordan defined an era and it will never be seen again.

SUKXOST · 10-17-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DRKS1D3

Define great.

For those that are not old enough and simply know Michael Jordan through stats via the internet, here is the deal. I remember in grade school and middle school that almost every boy had some sort of Chicago Bulls/Jordan apparel (shirts, jackets, hats, shoes, bookbags, posters, etc., etc. and I'm from Pittsburgh). You could rarely turn the TV on without seeing Michael on it. Jordan was larger than life itself. He was larger than any other sports star, movie star, famous person X's 100. He was a gamer, a competitor, a winner. He made everybody around him play better. That being said, I don't ever see anybody else taking the world by storm like that. Every young kid wanted to be Michael Jordan.

He was the man! FYI: I'm not even a pro basketball fan, but Jordan defined an era and it will never be seen again.

I like you already :P

Renegade · 10-17-2012, 11:08 PM

In a move nobody asked for, the NBA is ‘cracking down’ on taking too long to get to the opening tip after intros.

The guideline will eliminate or severely cut down on the routines that players from most teams go through before games, which often include a series of handshakes with their own teammates before greeting opponents. It also could legislate out individual rituals like LeBron James' famous chalk toss, which he abandoned last season during the playoffs, though James said he'll try to get it done in the limited time.
"I won't change it, I'll be able to work it in," James said. "We'll figure it out."

09-25-2012, 11:49 AM	#29
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10-12-2012, 05:00 AM	#32
SUKXOST Do you even lift, bro? Drives: 2013 1LE Camaro Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 3,159 View My Garage	Did MJ ever have to work with someone whos been retired for 15 years to improve his game? NOPE Didnt have to....MJ posted up more than any 2 guard in history bc he had a better post game than most center in history and he was 6' 6". __________________ My 1LE (645WHP/597WTQ) build/journal Thread: 1st ever 1LE COTW http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255461

10-12-2012, 08:01 AM	#33
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10-13-2012, 07:31 PM	#39
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10-17-2012, 11:52 AM	#40
DRKS1D3 Drives: '17 Corvette Grand Sport M7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,748	Define great. For those that are not old enough and simply know Michael Jordan through stats via the internet, here is the deal. I remember in grade school and middle school that almost every boy had some sort of Chicago Bulls/Jordan apparel (shirts, jackets, hats, shoes, bookbags, posters, etc., etc. and I'm from Pittsburgh). You could rarely turn the TV on without seeing Michael on it. Jordan was larger than life itself. He was larger than any other sports star, movie star, famous person X's 100. He was a gamer, a competitor, a winner. He made everybody around him play better. That being said, I don't ever see anybody else taking the world by storm like that. Every young kid wanted to be Michael Jordan. He was the man! FYI: I'm not even a pro basketball fan, but Jordan defined an era and it will never be seen again. Attached Images __________________ MY RIDE: 2017 CORVETTE GRAND SPORT--TRIPLE BLACK, 7 SPEED MANUAL, VARARAM TCR-7 INTAKE, BORLA CATLESS X-PIPE, CARBON FIBER STAGE 2 AERO, MGW SHORT-THROW SHIFTER SOLD2011 TRIPLE BLACK SS CONVERTIBLE--6 SPEED MANUAL, MANY MODS, 455 RWHP/435 RWTQ DAD'S RIDE: 2012 ZL1 #1866--BLACK, 6 SPEED MANUAL, EXPOSED CF HOOD, POLISHED WHEELS, SUNROOF, ROTO-FAB INTAKE "Silly Americans, taking from the rich and giving to the poor only works in fairy tales. Success is earned here!".

10-11-2012, 10:33 PM	#30
SUKXOST Do you even lift, bro? Drives: 2013 1LE Camaro Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 3,159 View My Garage	Lebron is a sell out that couldn't do it on his own merit and chased a championship much like a lot of NBA players do at the very end of their career when they have not won one. Michael Jordan played with garbage teams for years before he won one and still one faster than LeBron did. As I've mentioned, Scottie Pippen was not even an all Star when Jordan won his first championship. The best center the bulls ever had in any of his championship years were mediocre at best. Michael Jordan was absolutely the best player with the ball in his hands and still won six championships in a triangle offense that relies on absolute ball movement through all five players. The best players now are all about isolation plays or a two man game. With Jordan in his prime in today's league he would average 35 to 42 points every single year for a decade without question. That exact scenario was opposed to many of today's players and coaches and players that played in Jordan's era and they all say same thing

10-12-2012, 07:04 PM	#34
rhunley14 Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Monroe Ga Posts: 964 View My Garage	Sukxost are you telling me mj would have done as good without pippen?

10-12-2012, 08:10 PM	#36
Mutant Racer Drives: 2015 2LT Torch Red C7 Stingray Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,807 View My Garage	No. Jordan had 1 characteristic that separated him from all others...the man had a will and determination that is incredibly rare. We are talking about the ultra-super competitive Alpha. If you gathered 100 of the greatest players of all-time Jordan would stand out as the most driven, the hardest working, and the most confident. Lebron is also in a class of his own. A gifted natural and he deserves a lot of respect for the game he plays but Jordan would crush him. Lebron doesn't have the mental capacity to handle the unstoppable. MJ would beat him before he ever took the floor.

10-17-2012, 11:08 PM	#42
Renegade Banned Drives: Camaro SS Edition Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York Posts: 6,840	In a move nobody asked for, the NBA is ‘cracking down’ on taking too long to get to the opening tip after intros. The guideline will eliminate or severely cut down on the routines that players from most teams go through before games, which often include a series of handshakes with their own teammates before greeting opponents. It also could legislate out individual rituals like LeBron James' famous chalk toss, which he abandoned last season during the playoffs, though James said he'll try to get it done in the limited time. "I won't change it, I'll be able to work it in," James said. "We'll figure it out."