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lscamaro · 06-27-2012, 02:13 AM

I'm looking for some help on decreasing my 60' times. I run a 2.4-2.6 60' consistently. I have a v6 Auto Camaro with bf goodrich all seasons. No suspension mods and a few minor bolt ons.

Anyone have any ideas to what could help me lower my 60' times?

P.S. I don't believe I get any wheel hop or anything like that since it seems like I launch really well everytime but I want those times down

HufferSS · 06-27-2012, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lscamaro

I'm looking for some help on decreasing my 60' times. I run a 2.4-2.6 60' consistently. I have a v6 Auto Camaro with bf goodrich all seasons. No suspension mods and a few minor bolt ons.

Anyone have any ideas to what could help me lower my 60' times?

P.S. I don't believe I get any wheel hop or anything like that since it seems like I launch really well everytime but I want those times down

What is the best 60' time you can find for a car that is similar to yours...A6 on street tires with similar power? Compare that first to see how far you are off if any.

60' time is about two things..power and traction.

scrming · 06-27-2012, 05:21 AM

How are you launching? I found I got my best time by "flashing" the torque converter. Basically I would only raise the RPMs to just above idle, and then when you are ready to launch, simple let of the brake (with your left foot) and smash the gas (with the right)... I would leave traction control on and watch to see if the TC light starts flashing, indicating that you are spinning... Also what PSI are your running in your tires?

Southern Comfort · 06-27-2012, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lscamaro

I'm looking for some help on decreasing my 60' times. I run a 2.4-2.6 60' consistently. I have a v6 Auto Camaro with bf goodrich all seasons. No suspension mods and a few minor bolt ons.

Anyone have any ideas to what could help me lower my 60' times?

P.S. I don't believe I get any wheel hop or anything like that since it seems like I launch really well everytime but I want those times down

Can you tell us a little more about your staging routine like wet or dry burn out, and your typical reaction time? Are you spinning at launch?

Btw I am no expert at this. Just trying to help and learn myself

SGOS252382 · 06-27-2012, 07:47 AM

My guess is those all season tires aren't helping much.

But I would gently roll into the gas. To launch just hold the car (close to idle rpms) in place with the brake. Then to launch just roll (do not floor the gas) into the gas.

You can roll slowly at first (to test for traction). If your tires are hooking, then you can speed up how quickly you roll into the gas.

If your pulling 2.4 sec 60' times you're spinning too much. So you need to get off the line more gently (thus the roll into the gas).

Scott 78 · 06-27-2012, 08:54 AM

I've got the exact same setup and at the track I was getting consistent 2.2 60'.
The way I was launching was Turn off all nannies Put it in manual mode (For fun), No burnout. Once the car was staged I would bring the RPM up to about 3200. From that point I could just floor it with no wheel spin. The biggest thing I learned was to leave on the third yellow not the green.
Hope this helps a little.

jrpxxii · 06-27-2012, 09:59 AM

tires, tires, tires, tires

SC2150 · 06-27-2012, 11:04 AM

Stall converter and V8 limited slip diff. The TC will improve 1/4 mile times by .4-.5 seconds by itself if you have traction.

bad55nomad · 06-27-2012, 11:34 AM

I agree with Sc2150 get a converter . Dropped my 60 by .3 and the 1/4 mile by .7

TCAT · 06-27-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Stall converter and V8 limited slip diff. The TC will improve 1/4 mile times by .4-.5 seconds by itself if you have traction.

I'm curious about drag racing as well, and would like to learn more. I want to have fun at the track when it starts to cool down a bit in Fall. So, when drag racing our Camaro's, it's better to leave traction control and stability track activated?

Some threads are misleading, as there are people who say leaving traction control and/or stability track active will hinder 1/4 mile times, while others say it improves times. It seems like you have tons of drag experience under your belt

, so I'd like to hear your expert opinion on the matter. Thanks a ton Tracy.

Southern Comfort · 06-27-2012, 12:29 PM

So...,

OP - are you talking about mods like converters or just how to make what you have work?

lscamaro · 06-27-2012, 12:54 PM

Just how to make what I have better. I'm pretty good with the tree. When I'm trying to test for traction, I usually cut a .2 reaction time. But when I'm really trying for that perfect run I cut .05 reaction times consistently.

I usually raise the rpms to 1000 and launch with all the nannies on. I dont burnout. Should I?

I have about 34 psi in the tires. I've been told it wont help if i lower it but I could be wrong.

I'm planning on new tires but i wanted to know what i could improve on. The ipf supercharged car cuts a 1.8 60 ft with the same wheels and tires so I just assume its possible to improve.

Quick · 06-27-2012, 01:02 PM

Who ever it was that told you lowering your air pressure would'nt help...lied to you.

drop them down to 25-28 psi and see for yourself. I can run 1.92- 1.94 short lights all day long on stock p-zero's.

Southern Comfort · 06-27-2012, 01:31 PM

If you are spinning then perhaps your tires are simply shot. As a starting point lower psi to about 30 and /or heat the tires. Stay out of the water. You might get better with even lower pressure, but then the car will start to float around on the big end.

If you are not spinning, then TC off & ST off.

Other than that, drop some weight, or add power. Note you would have to drop hundreds of pounds to see much difference. A lighter wheel & tire package will help.

Finally, I dont think it's a fair comparison to size up a NA and FI car. Most of that difference is simply power that shows up after the launch and track conditions.

06-27-2012, 02:13 AM	#1
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06-27-2012, 05:21 AM	#3
scrming Red Brick of Vengeance! Drives: 12 Second Brick Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: at my pulpit Posts: 7,745	How are you launching? I found I got my best time by "flashing" the torque converter. Basically I would only raise the RPMs to just above idle, and then when you are ready to launch, simple let of the brake (with your left foot) and smash the gas (with the right)... I would leave traction control on and watch to see if the TC light starts flashing, indicating that you are spinning... Also what PSI are your running in your tires? __________________ 2011 Ford Flex EcoBoost Limited - 12.727 @ 109.790 MPH

06-27-2012, 09:59 AM	#7
jrpxxii Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS 427ci Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bowling Green, Ky Posts: 3,355	tires, tires, tires, tires __________________

06-27-2012, 12:54 PM	#12
lscamaro Drives: 2011 CGM Camaro LS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,305	Just how to make what I have better. I'm pretty good with the tree. When I'm trying to test for traction, I usually cut a .2 reaction time. But when I'm really trying for that perfect run I cut .05 reaction times consistently. I usually raise the rpms to 1000 and launch with all the nannies on. I dont burnout. Should I? I have about 34 psi in the tires. I've been told it wont help if i lower it but I could be wrong. I'm planning on new tires but i wanted to know what i could improve on. The ipf supercharged car cuts a 1.8 60 ft with the same wheels and tires so I just assume its possible to improve. __________________ Click Picture for Build Thread

06-27-2012, 01:02 PM	#13
Quick Drives: 2012 Camaro SS 45th Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Union City,Tn. Posts: 858	Who ever it was that told you lowering your air pressure would'nt help...lied to you. drop them down to 25-28 psi and see for yourself. I can run 1.92- 1.94 short lights all day long on stock p-zero's. __________________ OBX 1 7/8 LT's w/high flow cats. Doug Thorley catback w/x pipe. Cold air intake by CAI w/apex scoop.V-max ported throttle body.DynoSpeed tuned by Forest.369 rwhp/385 rwtq Something wicked this way cometh...

06-27-2012, 07:47 AM	#5
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	My guess is those all season tires aren't helping much. But I would gently roll into the gas. To launch just hold the car (close to idle rpms) in place with the brake. Then to launch just roll (do not floor the gas) into the gas. You can roll slowly at first (to test for traction). If your tires are hooking, then you can speed up how quickly you roll into the gas. If your pulling 2.4 sec 60' times you're spinning too much. So you need to get off the line more gently (thus the roll into the gas).

06-27-2012, 08:54 AM	#6
Scott 78 Drives: 2014 SIM SS 6M Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Beloit WI Posts: 301 View My Garage	I've got the exact same setup and at the track I was getting consistent 2.2 60'. The way I was launching was Turn off all nannies Put it in manual mode (For fun), No burnout. Once the car was staged I would bring the RPM up to about 3200. From that point I could just floor it with no wheel spin. The biggest thing I learned was to leave on the third yellow not the green. Hope this helps a little.

06-27-2012, 11:04 AM	#8
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Stall converter and V8 limited slip diff. The TC will improve 1/4 mile times by .4-.5 seconds by itself if you have traction.

06-27-2012, 11:34 AM	#9
bad55nomad Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS A6 Inferno Orange Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 51	I agree with Sc2150 get a converter . Dropped my 60 by .3 and the 1/4 mile by .7

06-27-2012, 12:29 PM	#11
Southern Comfort No Tags/Habitual Violator Drives: 2012 SIM 2SS/RS & z71 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,379 View My Garage	So..., OP - are you talking about mods like converters or just how to make what you have work?

06-27-2012, 01:31 PM	#14
Southern Comfort No Tags/Habitual Violator Drives: 2012 SIM 2SS/RS & z71 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,379 View My Garage	If you are spinning then perhaps your tires are simply shot. As a starting point lower psi to about 30 and /or heat the tires. Stay out of the water. You might get better with even lower pressure, but then the car will start to float around on the big end. If you are not spinning, then TC off & ST off. Other than that, drop some weight, or add power. Note you would have to drop hundreds of pounds to see much difference. A lighter wheel & tire package will help. Finally, I dont think it's a fair comparison to size up a NA and FI car. Most of that difference is simply power that shows up after the launch and track conditions.