07-26-2007, 09:06 AM | #1 |
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Camaro Manual Transmission
When reading Motortrend.com's review of the new Caddy CTS, I ran across this tidbit...
"Two six-speed transmissions are available: GM's new 6L50 automatic and the Aisin Warner AY6 manual. The auto ... Probably barely two percent of American CTS customers will opt for the six-speed manual. Even so, Caddy engineers have put considerable time and effort into optimizing it for the car. The second, third, and fourth gear ratios were changed late in the program as a direct result of testing on the Nordschleife, says Rob Kotarak. (Good news for manual Camaro buyers: Your cars will get this gear set, too.) Though there's no difference-according to Cadillac's figures-between the straight-line performance of manual or automatic cars equipped with the top of the range 3.6-liter DI engine, the manual car clearly feels quicker around the 'Ring, punching harder out of corners and with less of a gap between the second and third ratios. In fact, says Sigma products development manager Rick Kewley, the manual is five to eight seconds a lap faster." I am VERY encouraged about the new 5th Gen the more I read... but I thought you'd all like to know (since a lot of us will opt for the manual). ~LSx |
07-26-2007, 12:56 PM | #2 |
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I always figured it would get the T56
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07-26-2007, 03:08 PM | #3 |
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I assumed it was getting the new 6 speed (T6060??).
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07-26-2007, 03:13 PM | #4 |
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Sweetness.
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07-26-2007, 07:33 PM | #5 |
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Yeah, I thought it would get the T-56, too. I wouldn't trust Motortrend too much. I mean, they are a magazine, right? It sounds like they're assuming because the new cars are getting it, so will the Camaro. It makes sense, the T-56, however good it is, is old (comparitively). It's about time they replaced it, I guess.
Does anybody know anything about this new, Aisin Warner AY6 manual?....(cough) whiterag? (cough) |
07-26-2007, 07:50 PM | #6 | |
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This is directly off of the GM powertrain site...All I could find,
Aisin AY6 (MV1) Car Transmission Quote:
Although I know there's little to be done about it, this prickled me a little: "The Aisin AY6 is built in Anjo City, Japan." Last edited by Mr. Wyndham; 07-26-2007 at 08:15 PM. |
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07-26-2007, 07:58 PM | #7 |
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Nice. It's getting a tailset design and hydraulic clutch. Both of these designs are utilized by the Mustang. It's good to see that Camaro will have everything that the new Stangs have. That is assuming the Camaro will get this tranny, which I'm sure it will.
Remember, Chevy is relying on this car to pull it out of a slump, so I can see them adding a lot of nice features in this car. |
07-26-2007, 07:59 PM | #8 | |
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Because I'm an overachiever, I also found info about the 6L50 Auto...
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Last edited by Mr. Wyndham; 07-26-2007 at 08:22 PM. |
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07-26-2007, 09:28 PM | #9 |
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I highly doubt that the Aisin AY6 six-speed manual transmission will be in the V8 Camaro just because of the 255 lb-ft of torque it can handle. Probably good for the V6 but the LS3 will be making al least 150+ more torque.
Secondly, it only has one overdrive in sixth and to get the maximum fuel economy, its gonna need two overdrives like both the T-56 and the Hydra-Matic 6L50. They both have two overdrives and are only on the V8 options, so I presume the 6L50 or something close will be the V8 auto. I dont have a clue whats in store for the V8, probably looking at whatever Holden has is the best bet. |
07-26-2007, 10:17 PM | #10 |
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I wonder if the Aisin will end up on the V6 versions, but I'd bet that a T56 variant will be on the V8 versions. Btw Aisin is part of Toyota. Kinda ironic, don't you think?
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07-30-2007, 11:34 PM | #11 |
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Just as Ironic as the Tremec T56 being in both the Shelby GT500, AND the Corvette? hmmm?:eek:
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07-31-2007, 07:44 AM | #12 |
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The Shelby GT500 has a TR-6060 and from what I understand the Pontiac G8 will have a TR-6060 too. So it wouldn't be too far fetched if the Camaro did too.
The gear ratios on the 2007 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500: 1st: 2.97 2nd: 1.78 3rd: 1.30 4th: 1.00 5th: 0.80 6th: 0.63 The gear ratios on the 2008 Pontiac G8 GT: 1st: 3.01 2nd: 2.07 3rd: 1.43 4th: 1.00 5th: 0.84 6th: 0.57 EDIT: I also just read that the TR-6060 will be in the 2008 Corvette and 2009 Dodge Challenger!!!! Aside from this tranny being the modern muscle car tranny, it looks like I am about to start buying stock in Tremec transmissions.
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07-31-2007, 02:50 PM | #13 |
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Same here...another good reason to pick the auto trans
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07-31-2007, 03:00 PM | #14 |
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Stick shift all the way!!
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