Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by carguy_z28

not taking anything away from the car tho, that thing looks BADAS$!!! Exept for the gay ass ricer wing out back, that kills the ass end...( I know I know, theres a reason for it, downforce blah blah blah) still gay tho.

Tell that to LeMans. There's a certain type of car that actually can USE that wing...and it ain't a civic.

[porcupinekiller]

In my opinion GM should focus more on getting the Z28 into production than bothering with a bunch of SEMA show cars. I'd much rather see a production 2012 Z28 instead of a bunch of a concept cars.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

In my opinion GM should focus more on getting the Z28 into production than bothering with a bunch of SEMA show cars. I'd much rather see a production 2012 Z28 instead of a bunch of a concept cars.

I doubt show cars like these don't take many resources from serious development of a car like the Z28. The SSX was probably developed mostly by Pratt & Miller, not GM. The Synergy car would have been done mostly by designers, who wouldn't have a whole lot to do with the Z28. Same thing with the Red Flash. Plus, it could be that when the SSX was being worked on, the 'big picture' engineering on the Z28 was already done. GM would still need to sort out details like NVH, ride quality, and manufacturing issues and so on, all the fiddly little bits that most never really think about. Getting a car to production is a process requiring many different types of engineers, working on it at different times. A concept car is much rougher and only has to look like what it claims to be, regardless of whether or not everything on it actually works.

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by dmax86

check this thread out

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95498

That thread is full of lies and oozing fail....

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Besides the carbon fibre, the SSX is pretty doable. Most of the stuff is off the shelf, or simply removed from the car. And GM is the only one that doesn't have some special track-only version of their pony car right now, this would fill that void. I'm not saying its a guaurentee, but I'd bet we will at least see something similar.

Remember SEMA 2009? The Dusk practically became the Neiman Marcus Camaro, and of course there was the Synergy Green car that GM brought.

i agree with you. make it look the same.



there is no competition in the looks department. that is the baddest in the land.

[camaroitalia]

Now if what I have read is correct the 2010 Mustang V6 is 210 hp and the V8 is 315. So would the 2010 Camaro V6 and V8 be able to win against the 2010 Mustang V6 and V8?
Lol i know the hp numbers are way off from what the Camaro is putting out, but I just wanted to clarify on if what I read was actually correct.
I know the 2011 is a different story.

[carguy_z28]

V6 to V6 its a close race, as the power to weight difference makes up for the lack of BHP in the stang. The SS will beat the GT mustang on most every straight line race due to a big power advantage. On a road course is a different story...

[camaroitalia]

Damn so the weight difference is really that big of a factor for even an extra 100hp advantage?

[Entaille]

to a mustang guy, maybe. back in reality land the power difference is too much to overcome and they handle similarly.

obviously the '11 is another story : )

[a_Username]

No, the 2010 V6 Mustang is a dog! It's a low 15 sec car, compared to the low 14 sec for the V6 Camaro. However, the 2010 GT proves to be a mid 13 sec car compared to the low 13s of the 2010 SS.

Mustang V6 < Camaro V6 < Mustang GT < Camaro SS for the 2010 MY.

[Entaille]

I don't think anyones debating the straight line performance. he's saying on a road course the weight difference is enough to hold the camaro back.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Entaille

I don't think anyones debating the straight line performance. he's saying on a road course the weight difference is enough to hold the camaro back.

The OP didn't say road course only... I don't even think it could imply that; it was the Mustang guy in here who said, "road course is a different story." Of course, that has been debunked on here so many times it's really just beating a dead horse now.

[carguy_z28]

Originally Posted by a_Username

The OP didn't say road course only... I don't even think it could imply that; it was the Mustang guy in here who said, "road course is a different story." Of course, that has been debunked on here so many times it's really just beating a dead horse now.

You really have no idea what your talking about, Just because I have stang for my pic dont mean shit...I have two camaros as well...thanks tho tips...
as stated, it would be a close race, depending on what kind of race, the OP did not specify or the "win" that would take place IE what kind of race, so straight line, the camaro is almost a second faster in the quarter mile, but on a road course the mustang should come ahead....Talk about beating a dead horse, people like you making exuses every time some car comes along that does one thing or another better than the camaro...that gets old...

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by carguy_z28

You really have no idea what your talking about, Just because I have stang for my pic dont mean shit...I have two camaros as well...thanks tho tips...
as stated, it would be a close race, depending on what kind of race, the OP did not specify or the "win" that would take place IE what kind of race, so straight line, the camaro is almost a second faster in the quarter mile, but on a road course the mustang should come ahead....Talk about beating a dead horse, people like you making exuses every time some car comes along that does one thing or another better than the camaro...that gets old...

First off champ:


I don't have any idea? My post was in response to Entaille who said, "I don't think anyones debating the straight line performance. he's saying on a road course the weight difference is enough to hold the camaro back." This implies that the OP was strictly talking about road course racing, considering his "no one is debating straight line performance." Yet, you correctly pointed out the OP spoke of neither the 1/4 mile or a road course. So, my response simply said that "I don't know how you can even get road course only out of this."

Also, it has been proven time after time on here that the Mustang's straight line deficit is too much for it to overcome even on a road course (for both the V6 vs. V6 and GT vs. SS). Also, the V6 Camaro and V6 Mustang handle very similarly with a slight edge going to the V6 Camaro.