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*Mr. Wyndham* · 04-25-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MCPOAJ

This is very stupid... man someone needs to go slap gm... please PLEASE PLEASE don't make the same mistake toyota did please think of this why would you want a diesel engine that get the same mpg as the gasoline powered ones no one has noticed the flop that toyota made why would you spend $.70 +- more per gallon??? but if thats what they want to do then they can do that...

Wha-? What are you talking about? Who said anything about diesels?

GothamCamaro · 04-26-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by theholycow

Oh yeah, I TOTALLY agree about the sound. It would be a shame for a Camaro to sound ricey or even German. My VW's 5 cylinder sounds so cheezy, not ricey, just like some little British car you'd see in an old movie or something...

I'm ok with their sound cuz they're still part of the Camaro family, the idea of the 4 cyl Turbo Camaro is growing on me. I mean if I pull up in my V8 and a V4 Turbo Camaro is next to me, I'll be giving them a friendly thumbs up and they'll know when they hear my engine, that I'm the big brother that will take care of any of the bigger mustangs that get too close to them.

stovt001 · 04-26-2008, 12:28 PM

I agree that the ecotec is not high-strung at all. I mean the 2.2 in my Cobalt redlines at about 6500, idles at about 700, and cruises at 75ish at 2500. All the good power (which is class leading, BTW) comes in nicely at 3000-4000. I think I've hit 6000 once. It sounded awesome for a 4 banger blowing through a stock exhaust at near max RPM. Very deep and rumbly.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 04-26-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

... I think I've hit 6000 once. It sounded awesome for a 4 banger blowing through a stock exhaust at near max RPM. Very deep and rumbly.

Exactly. 'cept...I've been up in that rpm range quite a few times more than once....

CaptianSam · 04-27-2008, 12:42 AM

when i drive the charger... all the six bangers look at me and go... wow... i should have just gotten that one.... lol it must suck to not get a v8 lol...
on top of which... IM 100000% for the turbo 4... i changed my mind... thats a tuners dream.... the way i see it... there is a 4cyl market, a 6 cyl market and a 8 cyl market... CAMARO CAN DOMINATE ALL 3 which is great... a drifting turbo 4... or a track v6 and a drag v8... either way... the more classes a car can cover the better... and we are losing sales to HONDA AND TOYOTA guys... camon... if we sell this 4 banger we lose less money to asians which makes FUTURE CAMAROS EVEN BETTER...

Jason@JacFab · 04-27-2008, 03:17 PM

Personally I find myself town between the 4 cyl turbo option, and the V8. I have no interest in the V6.

All you've got to do is crank up the boost and I believe the 4 cyl can easily surpass the v6 performance wise. Depending on how much boost it's already running of course.

Of course my beef, like everyone else, would be the sound. I am partial to v8 sounds, and if a Camaro sounded like a rice burner, it would be a little sad.

stovt001 · 04-27-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Exactly. 'cept...I've been up in that rpm range quite a few times more than once....

Well my Cobalt faces almost exclusively 10 mph bumper to bumper traffic. I hit 6K when a semi cut me off going uphill on a relatively open freeway and I moved over into an open lane and gunned it to keep my revs up. Other than that one time if I ever got it up to 6K RPM I'd smash right into someone's bumper. I hate Southern California.

SoFlaZ · 04-27-2008, 09:24 PM

AAHHHH V4 hurts my eyes and scrambles my brain to read! inline4. Sorry just had to say that. But sure, ECOTEC's all the way, i think it would be sweet to have one of every engine that will help dominate the market. Then I can get my percious V8

theholycow · 04-28-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SoFlaZ

AAHHHH V4 hurts my eyes and scrambles my brain to read! inline4. Sorry just had to say that.

LOL, me too. I usually just say I4. Then sometimes you get people calling a v6 a "6 banger"...

ToneyTone · 05-01-2008, 05:20 PM

Just think about it for a minute. The LNF engine will have stage kits with hp bumps exceeding the 300 mark. You will have a modded 4 cylinder taking out almost any v-8 driven sports car. The LNF is a very tuner friendly engine, and is nonthing to frown on.

*radz28* · 05-01-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ToneyTone

Just think about it for a minute. The LNF engine will have stage kits with hp bumps exceeding the 300 mark. You will have a modded 4 cylinder taking out almost any v-8 driven sports car. The LNF is a very tuner friendly engine, and is nonthing to frown on.

Although I agree with most of the post, I don't think this blanket statement is quite accurate. My car makes about 400 horse at the crank (almost 370 at the wheel with only a lid, full exhaust, and dyno' tune) and I don't think FWD is more desirable than RWD in some racing. Horsepower isn't what gets the car moving; torque does that, and even though those are really good engines, there are a lot of V8s out there that make more power really easy.

ToneyTone · 05-01-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by radz282003

Although I agree with most of the post, I don't think this blanket statement is quite accurate. My car makes about 400 horse at the crank (almost 370 at the wheel with only a lid, full exhaust, and dyno' tune) and I don't think FWD is more desirable than RWD in some racing. Horsepower isn't what gets the car moving; torque does that, and even though those are really good engines, there are a lot of V8s out there that make more power really easy.

Not to say that your statement isn't true but most V-8 sport cars that are out there are mainly stock or lightly modded. The dude in a modded LNF won't have a hard time finding a V-8 to beat.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-01-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by radz282003

Although I agree with most of the post, I don't think this blanket statement is quite accurate. My car makes about 400 horse at the crank (almost 370 at the wheel with only a lid, full exhaust, and dyno' tune) and I don't think FWD is more desirable than RWD in some racing. Horsepower isn't what gets the car moving; torque does that, and even though those are really good engines, there are a lot of V8s out there that make more power really easy.

Why do you bring up FWD?

The Camaro will be RWD all the way from 4(if it gets it) to 8 cylinders.

True about the V8's and torque. But consider for a moment the extreme wieght savings from a 4 cyllinder. (Like, 300 lbs extreme)

...I'm still getting a V8.

Geno · 05-01-2008, 09:37 PM

OK guys, I may be wrong on this but I am thinking that the 2.0, 260hp turbo is only rated at 22 mpg highway in the little light Solstice. I would not be happy with that at all. Looks like the same rating on the Saturn Sky.

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04-26-2008, 12:28 PM	#17
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	I agree that the ecotec is not high-strung at all. I mean the 2.2 in my Cobalt redlines at about 6500, idles at about 700, and cruises at 75ish at 2500. All the good power (which is class leading, BTW) comes in nicely at 3000-4000. I think I've hit 6000 once. It sounded awesome for a 4 banger blowing through a stock exhaust at near max RPM. Very deep and rumbly.

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Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,688 View My Garage	Personally I find myself town between the 4 cyl turbo option, and the V8. I have no interest in the V6. All you've got to do is crank up the boost and I believe the 4 cyl can easily surpass the v6 performance wise. Depending on how much boost it's already running of course. Of course my beef, like everyone else, would be the sound. I am partial to v8 sounds, and if a Camaro sounded like a rice burner, it would be a little sad.

04-27-2008, 09:24 PM	#22
SoFlaZ Drives: 2013 SS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: WPB FL Posts: 947 View My Garage	AAHHHH V4 hurts my eyes and scrambles my brain to read! inline4. Sorry just had to say that. But sure, ECOTEC's all the way, i think it would be sweet to have one of every engine that will help dominate the market. Then I can get my percious V8

05-01-2008, 05:20 PM	#24
ToneyTone Drives: 07' Sunburst Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: May 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 83	Just think about it for a minute. The LNF engine will have stage kits with hp bumps exceeding the 300 mark. You will have a modded 4 cylinder taking out almost any v-8 driven sports car. The LNF is a very tuner friendly engine, and is nonthing to frown on.

05-01-2008, 09:37 PM	#28
Geno Drives: 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe GT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 258 View My Garage	OK guys, I may be wrong on this but I am thinking that the 2.0, 260hp turbo is only rated at 22 mpg highway in the little light Solstice. I would not be happy with that at all. Looks like the same rating on the Saturn Sky.