12-28-2007, 11:41 AM | #1 |
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Hey Tag! Have you been trained to draw blood yet?
I'm sure it isn't the case, but the article makes it sound as if Joe Officer will administer the breatalyzer or take your blood by force...your choice.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/28/d...ed-blood-draw/ Tag, have you had any experience with this "program" yet? |
12-28-2007, 11:42 AM | #2 |
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Sorry, this probably should be put in the "Off-topic Discussions" forum. If someone could move it, that would be great. My bad.
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12-28-2007, 11:55 AM | #3 |
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Woah...I hadn't read this yet. Technically, we have the right to take breath/and or blood. We handle it this way...
DWI = breath Intox assault & Intox manslaughter = Blood drawl (whether you like it or not). Done by a nurse at a hospital and blood is taken to Medical Examiners office. This is what you agree to do when you sign for your license. If you refuse when the time comes, you get your license revoked and you get charged w/ the offense. You can refuse the breath test...that's fine and you lose your license and get booked for DWI. You can refuse the blood test (again, which is only employed in the case of serious bodily injury or death to any other party), but the blood will be taken anyway. Personally, I see problems w/ the police taking blood. Now, if you are in BFE where there are no nurses present or on call to do this and the PD had been properly trained and licensed, the driver is SOL. I can't say how others will do this, but OUR policies haven't changed. This sounds much more like it's out in rural counties. I hope what I said clears it up somewhat. Feel free to ask questions. Oh, and new Supreme Court ruling says that we now only need to get one blood drawl from the DWI driver. It used to be that we had to wait another two hours to get the second to see if the driver was going up or coming down in BAC. This is great, because that was two hours sittting and waiting at the hospital for the same nurse to take another drawl. Now, we can get on with it!!!! |
12-28-2007, 02:55 PM | #4 |
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Man Tag, I respect what you do. You keep our streets here in San Antonio safe to drive on!
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12-28-2007, 03:01 PM | #5 |
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It's nice to have an (several) officers that are vocal on these boards. Not only can you guys keep us updating on laws and what not, but it's nice to know that officers are real people too who like cars and aren't just pigs put on earth to piss people off. Wish there was local cop from the bay on these boards who posted regularly.
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12-28-2007, 04:47 PM | #6 |
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I personally know plenty of officers...and they all seem very nice in own respects. It's just the few that take the meaning of that badge and distort it - hence, distorting the public's view. Much like the teachers who complain they don't get paid enough; we don't ALL share that view...but that's WAAAYY
Thanks for the input, TAG. |
12-29-2007, 12:19 AM | #7 |
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You guys are welcome!
I love doing what I do. But, it's just like the quote in my sig...if no one does it, who will help you when you need it? We need people who are willing to go out there and lock up the bad guys while helping the good guys. I've said it before here...I'll say it again. There's a lot of officers out there who've let the regular day to day activities get to them...and are tired of the drama and BS that some people create for themselves (and there's a lot of it! ). There's the good that will always help, do the right thing, etc. And...there's those that we are ashamed to say worked w/ our dept. They eventually make the wrong decision and are dealt w/ accordingly . But, aside from the drama, there's a lot more important issues that are taken care of which are truly gratifying in the end (catching a murderer a few months ago for example). If you want a good explanation on why some officers have bad attitudes, read back to that list I posted a while back. Like I said, that list is TRUE!!! |
12-30-2007, 01:10 AM | #8 |
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That must be a great feeling knowing you possibly stopped someone from killing another innocent person and got them locked up where they belong. Plans for my career will give me opportunity's to catch/lock up horrid people as well. I applied and got accepted already to UTSA, so next year I will be a full time student there majoring in Computer Science/Information Technology or a Law degree. From there I plan on joining the FBI following my dream. Its not a job for everyone, but for me.. I'm up for the challenge.
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12-30-2007, 01:35 AM | #9 |
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Oh, this guy actually did kill someone. He shot his dad 5 times. He then tried to kill his stepmom and threatened to kill his girlfriend. Police showed up, mom told son PD was there, and son went nuts shooting dad, etc. He ran and about 30-40 min later, the helicopter found him and me and another guy went and got him. Felt damn good catching that guy.
Go for the FBI, bro. I wanted to do that for years like my dad. My dad was actually 3rd from the top...assisstant deputy director out in LA. I've got tons of respect for the guy. He's lead an amazing life. 23 years w/ the FBI...long time. And...he was forced to retire due to the age requirment deal. If not, he'd still be there today...doing what he loved to do best. |
12-30-2007, 03:12 AM | #10 |
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TAG man, cops down here latley been having some real deal issues of there own, let alone deal with the public (from Vancouver, Canada btw).... we got some really f'ed up issues with the whole taser thing right now... a few people died from cops tasering them (one on video which shows the cop tasered him for no reason). And to add to it, we had a few screwed up cases of force abuse, like video's/witnesses clearly showing extensive force for no reason..... five cops beating one guy....etc.
With that being said, to tell you the truth we have had some really big issues with cops here (VPD, RCMP, etc.) that lead me to not really like/trust cops. I typed all of that really I guess just to hear how is it out in Texas with cops... what kind of issues are you guys facing (internally and externally). Also, as you probably know Vancouver is very multi-cultural.... any issues related to that down there and cops??
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12-30-2007, 03:14 AM | #11 |
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And oh yeah TAG, props for you doing your job man... I'm not sure I could do it, speacially with the kind of things you guys have to deal with in the states (sorry that I'm being stereoypical with this assumption, but being Canadian I cant imagine our crimes being anything close to what you guys have to deal with).
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12-30-2007, 10:44 AM | #12 |
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San Antonio actually has a lower crime rate than most cities. It's actually pretty good. But, like everywhere else, we have our problems.
Sorry to hear about your probs up there. I can't and won't comment on them seeing as though I haven't the foggiest idea what happened. Remember this though...Cameras do show you what happened..from ONE angle. Long story short. We watched a video of a chase which ended in dude crashing, trying to run (right by an officer), and it appears as though the officer shot him for NO reason. Really, this video was horrible evidence for the officer...we were all shocked when he just flat out shot him. Then, the instructor showed video two. Video two shows the guy running towards the officer and in this one, you can see bad guy pull out a gun bringing it up towards the officer. Then, you see officer shoot him. Plain as day. It is increadible what a camera CAN catch....and is also increadible how it can miss some of the most important parts. We have our own problems on this force...just as with anywhere else. It'll happen everywhere. Out of my class, we lost one cause he's a moron and was trying to pick up a prostitute....which happened to be an undercover SAPD VICE officer!!! What a MORON...and he was still in his SAPD blues. This guy was not the brightest, I tell ya. Then, two more from my class decided they wanted to go out drinking...got drunk, and stole the bar patio chairs. County watched them, knew it was THEM, and management later tried to get back their chairs w/out getting police involved. The refused to cooperate and were terminated from the PD. Some people are just plain STUPID. I'll agree....there are a few out there who really make it look bad for the others...and it's a black eye everytime something like this happens. Oh, we just had two guys supposedly forcing a female prostitute to give them sexual favors... God, stuff like that makes me sick. What the hell goes through your mind to make you think that craps ok?????? Every year, it never fails, there will be a coiuple. But, again, as far as going into specifics with your stories, I know nothing abou tthem. And, if I did, some will like my responses and some won't. We've done pretty big discussions over this in the past, so. |
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So first off, this quote was my response, followed by a rebuttal, followed by yet another post from me.
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It's called excited delirium. And its usage has been around since long before the Taser came on the scene. And while some people argue that it's a "conpiriscy to cover up police brutality" the thing is, almost 100% of the people who die of it "tend to be overweight males, high on drugs, and display extremely erratic and violent behavior. But victims also share something else in common. The disorder seems to manifest itself when people are under stress, particularly when in police custody, and is often diagnosed only after the victims die. " - ABC News. Yes, there is a high percentage of this occurring in police custody, but common sense dictates that if someone is "high on drugs, and display[ing] extremely erratic and violent behavior" that the police would probably be called, and they would take them into custody, and yes, this would be a perfect situation to use a Taser in. And again, it was used before Tasers were used, and people used to attribute it to pepper-spray, or handcuffs. Tasers just happen to be the newest thing to blame it on. |
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12-30-2007, 11:58 AM | #14 |
I used to be Dragoneye...
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Nice. Even though it is slightly O/T, the taser thing has just gotten blown WAY out of proportion. Of all the folks who argue against it, 99% of them have no alternative in mind. uh....would you rather the police use their real guns?
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