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htron50 · 02-10-2011, 12:45 PM

My Z Dog gave me two thumbs up on everything about it. Is ready to go cruisin. What color would she look best in?

O2BQIK · 02-10-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hylton

I'll believe it when someone takes the car down the track "open" pipe and then closed and compares the results. Those with LS3 cars who have replaced their mufflers with straight pipe aren't seeing any difference performance wise so why should this?

No offense but these are two different cars. Two different engines, one forced induction and one not. Plus the exhaust is tuned differently ahead of the mufflers I'm sure. You can't assume that what went for the LS3 SS will hold true for this car.

Not saying you're wrong to have a wait-and-see attitude, just that you can't compare the two. Some cars get huge gains from changing mufflers, if the stock mufflers are a major restriction. With a blown car, that's certainly a possibility.

Brianskeet · 02-10-2011, 01:14 PM

Love the new ZL1! Looks hot, great motor with the internals to support the horses over the long term. I even like the new steering wheel. Wish they had stuck with a SS style suspension. I am betting it would cut 6-8 K from the retail price. My gut thinks it will be priced well outside of what camaro pricing should be. If the price gets within 10 K of the lowest priced base model vette. It won't sell.

Texzen · 02-10-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by badgebunny

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!! I GOTTA START SAVING!!!

No kidding...making double payments from here on out.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 02-10-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hylton

That "feature" might be a sound thing but when you listen to GM people talk, they will never state publicly that it does anything to improve performance (reduce back pressure). Look at this picture - this "feature" is just another pipe into the muffler chamber.

No...

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Originally Posted by The Viz

They will actually state all day long that it does add to the performance. When the vacuum actuator opens the other pipe, it diverts exhaust flow through an unbaffled route in the muffler opening up flow when it is optimally needed.

This.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hylton

I'll believe it when someone takes the car down the track "open" pipe and then closed and compares the results. Those with LS3 cars who have replaced their mufflers with straight pipe aren't seeing any difference performance wise so why should this?

I didn't know that nobody was noticing things...I actually thought they were when axlebacks were installed.

In any event...it releases 6hp from the Corvette LS3...so I defer to that example. We'll likely never know on the ZL1 how much in contributes because it is standard equipment...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tysen

Especially with the Magnetic Ride Suspension.

Definitely a big part of it.

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Originally Posted by 9c1ny

all you guys are bitching about this and that now but in the months to come I can see all the threads-

"Will a Z28 steering wheel fit on my SS?"

"Can I add the bi-mode exhaust to my car?"

ect ect ect ect

I agree.

SilverIceman · 02-10-2011, 01:41 PM

GM really pulled one over on a lot of folks with this model name.

I've been reading this blog for an year and a half and can't say how many folks said they were "holding off" buying an SS and waiting for the "Z28". Guess they can wait another year or two.

Price, it's gotta be at least $55K with all the performance and body upgrades. Probably more like $60k. Will people buy it? Heck yeah. Callaway, SLP and the other shops have had no problem selling their cars from $60 - $112K. If they keep this under $60k it will be a hot seller.

geminidreams · 02-10-2011, 01:43 PM

Im in LOVE..

htron50 · 02-10-2011, 01:44 PM

"MOST POWERFUL
MOST HIGH TECH
HIGHEST PERFORMING Camaro in Brand's history.
Elite, Exclusive, Legendary, Mythical Status, Pinnacle of performance;"Coolers on Engine, Transmission, AND Differential!"
This is it in a nutshell. You have a gem here.

And, Road and Track magazine states the LS9 could easily be expected to be made an option:
here it is on their YouTube review.. at very end. Still 1 YR till release!!

htron50 · 02-10-2011, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverIceman

Callaway, SLP and the other shops have had no problem selling their cars from $60 - $112K. If they keep this under $60k it will be a hot seller.

I think they may start to have a problem soon! Imagine how may dealer shops you can get warranty service in compared to trying to get your vehicle back to one of the above mentioned!!

Edge.128 · 02-10-2011, 01:53 PM

well i was seriously thinking of doing a twin-turbo for my V6 but with all you LS3 SS guys trading up to this i'll just try and grab a good used SS instead

this is one nice car but out of my price range for sure...

n!ght r!der · 02-10-2011, 02:05 PM

I like the ZL1 name. Its bangin!

LS6-M22 · 02-10-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htron50

I heard MINIMUM 550 hp during the webchat. I did not hear that LS9 would not be an optional upgrade. HMMMMMMM ???? Now that would give the ZL1 a little higher tag close to $60 for those of you with bucks to spare..........

60K for a LS9 Camaro?!?! That would never happen.Closer to 90K.......

Shurenuff · 02-10-2011, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htron50

"MOST POWERFUL
MOST HIGH TECH
HIGHEST PERFORMING Camaro in Brand's history.
Elite, Exclusive, Legendary, Mythical Status, Pinnacle of performance;"Coolers on Engine, Transmission, AND Differential!"
This is it in a nutshell. You have a gem here.

And, Road and Track magazine states the LS9 could easily be expected to be made an option:
here it is on their YouTube review.. at very end. Still 1 YR till release!!

Yeah, these guys know about as much as my 3 year old niece. The Z/28, if and when it is produced, will not have a 600+ hp LS9.

Where do they get these people?

noxqq · 02-10-2011, 02:47 PM

Two really picky (curious) questions:

Where does water go when it passes through the hood louvres? It looked like it is designed to channel forward and to the right. But then where? Detail the engine with every wash?

How is the suede going to look on the steering wheel and other places after some use? I know for sure that my palms would be sweating every time I drove this bad boy.

02-10-2011, 01:14 PM	#563
Brianskeet Brianskeet Drives: RJTC 1SS RS L99 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crestview FL Posts: 771 View My Garage	Love the new ZL1! Looks hot, great motor with the internals to support the horses over the long term. I even like the new steering wheel. Wish they had stuck with a SS style suspension. I am betting it would cut 6-8 K from the retail price. My gut thinks it will be priced well outside of what camaro pricing should be. If the price gets within 10 K of the lowest priced base model vette. It won't sell. __________________ ARH 1 7/8 coated LT, High flows, Corsa L99 exhaust, Vmax CNC throttle body, Elite Engineering catch can and tunnel brace, C.A.I. Apex Washer relocation and scoop, Janetty Tune, MSD wires, DEI heat shields, RB rotors and pads, Mike the powder coater calipers, pedders lines, Forgestar F14's, Gorilla nutz, MTI spoiler finished by Gary, Gary's Customz Bow Ties, Side Markers and Tails tinted, Bezels matte black, Badges deleted, Windows Tinted, AAC DRL P13W lights, AAC tinted LED reverse lights, AAC LED interior lights, RPI match painted DRL Bezels, Lis plate frame, Lloyds mats

02-10-2011, 01:43 PM	#567
geminidreams Drives: ABM 2LT / RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 2,391	Im in LOVE.. __________________ Mods to date: ABM Catch can, Pfadt stage II racing suspension, axel back magna flows, Araid CAI. New Vinyl stripes and Powder coated my factory rims.

02-10-2011, 01:53 PM	#570
Edge.128 Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,911	well i was seriously thinking of doing a twin-turbo for my V6 but with all you LS3 SS guys trading up to this i'll just try and grab a good used SS instead this is one nice car but out of my price range for sure... __________________ 2010 Summit White Camaro LS / M6 MRT V2.0

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htron50 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Status "Thank You!" Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,498	My Z Dog gave me two thumbs up on everything about it. Is ready to go cruisin. What color would she look best in?

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SilverIceman Drives: Camaro SS SIM Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 971 View My Garage	GM really pulled one over on a lot of folks with this model name. I've been reading this blog for an year and a half and can't say how many folks said they were "holding off" buying an SS and waiting for the "Z28". Guess they can wait another year or two. Price, it's gotta be at least $55K with all the performance and body upgrades. Probably more like $60k. Will people buy it? Heck yeah. Callaway, SLP and the other shops have had no problem selling their cars from $60 - $112K. If they keep this under $60k it will be a hot seller.

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02-10-2011, 02:47 PM	#574
noxqq Drives: '19 ZR1 Shadow Gray & '16 Z06 LBR Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 408	Two really picky (curious) questions: Where does water go when it passes through the hood louvres? It looked like it is designed to channel forward and to the right. But then where? Detail the engine with every wash? How is the suede going to look on the steering wheel and other places after some use? I know for sure that my palms would be sweating every time I drove this bad boy.