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nightrider28 · 12-18-2013, 05:22 PM

Little- im not gonna say who told me that, but it wa a sponsor. What do you think is the next great thing I should do? Change my K&N to a better intake (if so which one) or do you have any other suggestions which I can just save up for???

LS3 SS · 12-18-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nightrider28

Little- im not gonna say who told me that, but it wa a sponsor. What do you think is the next great thing I should do? Change my K&N to a better intake (if so which one) or do you have any other suggestions which I can just save up for???

CAI, Roto-Fab, or Vararam. Pick one. You can't go wrong.

litle88 · 12-18-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LS3 SS

CAI, Roto-Fab, or Vararam. Pick one. You can't go wrong.

Adm (race), haltech as well. Just make sure it's a plastic tube.

Second how's the tune going? Do You like it?

LS3 SS · 12-18-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Adm (race), haltech as well. Just make sure it's a plastic tube.

Second how's the tune going? Do You like it?

On your second sentence, are you talking to the OP or me? lol If talking to me, I love my tune. PCM of NC doesn't lie when they say the car drives virtually like stock. There is a tiny bit of bucking/surging, but it's at 1400-1500 rpm and it's very easy to avoid it. Of course city driving is terrible on MPG, but who cares lol. Buuuut..on the downside...now I feel like 498 isn't enough...LOL.

litle88 · 12-18-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LS3 SS

On your second sentence, are you talking to the OP or me? lol If talking to me, I love my tune. PCM of NC doesn't lie when they say the car drives virtually like stock. There is a tiny bit of bucking/surging, but it's at 1400-1500 rpm and it's very easy to avoid it. Of course city driving is terrible on MPG, but who cares lol. Buuuut..on the downside...now I feel like 498 isn't enough...LOL.

Lol sorry bro yea the OP. I WAS just adding to your comment lol. Sorry long day bro.

litle88 · 12-18-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LS3 SS

On your second sentence, are you talking to the OP or me? lol If talking to me, I love my tune. PCM of NC doesn't lie when they say the car drives virtually like stock. There is a tiny bit of bucking/surging, but it's at 1400-1500 rpm and it's very easy to avoid it. Of course city driving is terrible on MPG, but who cares lol. Buuuut..on the downside...now I feel like 498 isn't enough...LOL.

It's never enough bro once you get used to it lol. That's when your like damn I wish I would of hone bigger or man I should mill these heads etc etc etc lol

nightrider28 · 12-18-2013, 06:58 PM

I like it love the addition of headers, and sounds really nice with the Borla catback. However, I plan on heading to the track next summer and want to do a little more upgrades before then.

eastwoodisme · 12-18-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

25hp on a CAI with scoop and TB? Lmao please tell us who pm'd you this foolishness.

This thread is just full of FAIL. there's guys comparing a 30lb bookbag to a pulley and others saying there's 25hp to be had with scoop and TB with a CAI.

And yes IM TALKING RWHP lol.

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

Why do you think I haven't chimed in very much. Lol

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Originally Posted by litle88

TB adds nothing, zero, nada (damn thing) BUT throttle response? YES

Scoop, is really there to just divert cooler air not cram the air box with air.

A good cold air kit like vararam, adm, rotofab, haltech will net you hp

Let's just say the best mods and proven RWHP numbers are Lt's, a good CAI kit and a tune. It's a proven 40-45rwhp.

First off, to divert "cooler air" would mean air that is more dense. More dense air means more horsepower created from the combustion process. Please tell me you didn't mean to say this...

Second, The boys over Kesatie did a back to back test on the VMAX. And it DOES add horsepower. I don't know what happened with yours but there is a purpose. There is a dyno sheet available but even better, HERE'S THE VIDEO!!

and just in case you want one, Chase quoted the CNC Spiral good for 12-16 REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235022

I don't feel I need to post Ted's results on the CAI testing that he did because most should already know. But in case you don't: the CAI with JRE Scoop was good for 18HP. The K&N (the intake he already has) was good for 9HP in the same test. So he gains atleast 9 from the CAI switch and scoop add-on and 9-16HP for the TB. You do the math. But just remember, there are links to back up the number I am quoting here. Just follow the links. Go on. Learn.

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Originally Posted by Kelly@PCMofNC

Wow this thread went downhill.

In all seriousness, to hit 500 REAR wheel hp naturally aspirated you need a cam and you need heads. If it is out of your budget then I would just keep saving up towards it. It's not going to happen with just all of the bolt ons. The strongest bolt-on LS3 Camaro I have ever seen only did 433rwhp on our dyno jet.

He is trying to hit 500 at the Crank not Rear Wheel...

matt55 · 12-18-2013, 08:08 PM

“Is that true?”
“Is any of this?”

litle88 · 12-18-2013, 08:12 PM

First Off Chase doesn't even have a 5th Camaro or a dyno or a shop to install these and prove it himself.

Second if I made up a part OF COURSE I'm going to say it makes horsepower.

Do you really think an 18" fan in front of a bumper is really gonna work?
Do you really think a cold air intake kit test is going to be FAIR on a chassis dyno. I don't.

eastwoodisme · 12-18-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

First Off Chase doesn't even have a 5th Camaro or a dyno or a shop to install these and prove it himself.

Second if I made up a part OF COURSE I'm going to say it makes horsepower.

Do you really think an 18" fan in front of a bumper is really gonna work?
Do you really think a cold air intake kit test is going to be FAIR on a chassis dyno. I don't.

litle88 · 12-18-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwoodisme

You are a copy and paste king. Do you have one? Have you gone to the track? Do you have a personal experience with both? Don't post what others have posted. Please do tell.

Nightmare2012 · 12-18-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwoodisme

First off, to divert "cooler air" would mean air that is more dense. More dense air means more horsepower created from the combustion process. Please tell me you didn't mean to say this...

Second, The boys over Kesatie did a back to back test on the VMAX. And it DOES add horsepower. I don't know what happened with yours but there is a purpose. There is a dyno sheet available but even better, HERE'S THE VIDEO!!

and just in case you want one, Chase quoted the CNC Spiral good for 12-16 REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235022

I don't feel I need to post Ted's results on the CAI testing that he did because most should already know. But in case you don't: the CAI with JRE Scoop was good for 18HP. The K&N (the intake he already has) was good for 9HP in the same test. So he gains atleast 9 from the CAI switch and scoop add-on and 9-16HP for the TB. You do the math. But just remember, there are links to back up the number I am quoting here. Just follow the links. Go on. Learn.

He is trying to hit 500 at the Crank not Rear Wheel...

Why was I quoted in this response? Even if all your math and theories are correct who cares? You seem like you got a lot of time on your hands to go back and search all those threads do me a favor send me your PayPal account I'll send you 5 bucks so that you can buy yourself a life.

eastwoodisme · 12-18-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

You are a copy and paste king. Do you have one? Have you gone to the track? Do you have a personal experience with both? Don't post what others have posted. Please do tell.

1. Thank you.
2. A (one) scoop or TB?
3. Yes
4. Both scoops?
5. Why not?
6. Tell you what?

12-18-2013, 08:08 PM	#79
matt55 Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 1,069	“Is that true?” “Is any of this?” __________________ 10.8@130.8 610 whp, CAI, 2.5, E85, id850 on street tires.

12-18-2013, 08:12 PM	#80
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	First Off Chase doesn't even have a 5th Camaro or a dyno or a shop to install these and prove it himself. Second if I made up a part OF COURSE I'm going to say it makes horsepower. Do you really think an 18" fan in front of a bumper is really gonna work? Do you really think a cold air intake kit test is going to be FAIR on a chassis dyno. I don't. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

12-18-2013, 05:22 PM	#71
nightrider28 Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Batavia, IL Posts: 234	Little- im not gonna say who told me that, but it wa a sponsor. What do you think is the next great thing I should do? Change my K&N to a better intake (if so which one) or do you have any other suggestions which I can just save up for???

12-18-2013, 06:58 PM	#77
nightrider28 Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Batavia, IL Posts: 234	I like it love the addition of headers, and sounds really nice with the Borla catback. However, I plan on heading to the track next summer and want to do a little more upgrades before then.