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bigsquirrel · 10-10-2010, 09:16 PM

I'm getting ready to purchase but I have a few install questions, I'm hoping someone can answer, these involve pinning the crank.

Q1:
Install both .251 dowels into the holes. NOTE: Make sure that when the dowel is installed it is LOWER than the HARMONIC BALANCER. The dowel should NOT touch the harmonic balancer when INSTALLED.

I'm not sure what they mean by this, do I push the dowels all the way through? Aren't they there to hold the crank pulley in place? Will this be more obvious to me when I install?

Q2:
Installed ARP bolt. Torque to 240 foot pounds. NOTE: On the 6 speed car apply parking brake, shift car into 1st gear and have a assistant apply the brakes to torque the bolt. On the automatic trans car unbolt the starter and install GM KENT MOORE J45059 tool to torque bolt.

I have no idea what this means or what this tool is, is this something I can rent, will it be self explanatory? This seems optional to installing the OEM bolt if so is there a benefit to using the ARP bolt?

rtkjadams · 10-10-2010, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsquirrel

I'm getting ready to purchase but I have a few install questions, I'm hoping someone can answer, these involve pinning the crank.

Q1:
Install both .251 dowels into the holes. NOTE: Make sure that when the dowel is installed it is LOWER than the HARMONIC BALANCER. The dowel should NOT touch the harmonic balancer when INSTALLED.

I'm not sure what they mean by this, do I push the dowels all the way through? Aren't they there to hold the crank pulley in place? Will this be more obvious to me when I install?

Q2:
Installed ARP bolt. Torque to 240 foot pounds. NOTE: On the 6 speed car apply parking brake, shift car into 1st gear and have a assistant apply the brakes to torque the bolt. On the automatic trans car unbolt the starter and install GM KENT MOORE J45059 tool to torque bolt.

I have no idea what this means or what this tool is, is this something I can rent, will it be self explanatory? This seems optional to installing the OEM bolt if so is there a benefit to using the ARP bolt?

Q1: Just push the dowel pins all the way in until they bottom out..... make sure you have the drill on low speed and stop and oil the bit often...

Q2: If you have an auto, you need a way to stop the flex plate from turning... No you can not rent the "J" tool... On Lightnings we would make up our own tool using flat steel with some slight bends, that would bolt up to converter using one of the exiting bolts and the other end to the bell housing, using an exiting bolt. BTW, if you have a 6 speed car, it works better if you put the car in 4th gear. When I had the car in 1st gear, the brakes couldn't hold the tires from turning, but 4th gear would.....

Ray

bigsquirrel · 10-11-2010, 12:04 AM

Thanks, If I use the OEM blot can I avoid using the J tool? The instructions made it sound like this was optional.

bigsquirrel · 10-11-2010, 02:22 PM

Got some answers from Whipple, the tool # was wrong it's J42386-A a flywheel holding tool like rtkjadams referenced. That makes much more sense, and it's only $80.

tandtperformance · 10-11-2010, 10:43 PM

use the arp bolt with some red lock tite and a 1/2inch impact thats all you need

GEEo · 10-11-2010, 10:44 PM

bigsquirrel · 10-12-2010, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GEEo

I haven't bought it yet, working through the details before I buy. I'd hate to buy it and then figure out I don't have the right tool etc.

bigsquirrel · 10-12-2010, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tandtperformance

use the arp bolt with some red lock tite and a 1/2inch impact thats all you need

I have a battery powered hitachi impact it's rated for 1240 inch pounds, is that enough?

rtkjadams · 10-12-2010, 01:53 PM

NO WAY!!!!!

bigsquirrel · 10-12-2010, 05:02 PM

I ordered the whipple, thanks tim!

bigsquirrel · 10-12-2010, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtkjadams

NO WAY!!!!!

That's over 100 foot lbs. More than the instructions call for.

GMRULZ · 10-12-2010, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsquirrel

I ordered the whipple, thanks tim!

Damn good choice! Nice guy you are getting it from as well.

McBeevee · 10-12-2010, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsquirrel

That's over 100 foot lbs. More than the instructions call for.

You stated in your first post that the instructions call for 240 foot lbs. That is a lot more than what you claim your cordless gun to be (1240 inch lbs). I'm confused.

bigsquirrel · 10-12-2010, 07:35 PM

oh you are right. I'll be doing that by hand then

10-10-2010, 09:16 PM	#1
bigsquirrel My car runs on acorns.... Drives: 2010 SS RS Inferno Orange Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,351 View My Garage	Whipple Install Questions I'm getting ready to purchase but I have a few install questions, I'm hoping someone can answer, these involve pinning the crank. Q1: Install both .251 dowels into the holes. NOTE: Make sure that when the dowel is installed it is LOWER than the HARMONIC BALANCER. The dowel should NOT touch the harmonic balancer when INSTALLED. I'm not sure what they mean by this, do I push the dowels all the way through? Aren't they there to hold the crank pulley in place? Will this be more obvious to me when I install? Q2: Installed ARP bolt. Torque to 240 foot pounds. NOTE: On the 6 speed car apply parking brake, shift car into 1st gear and have a assistant apply the brakes to torque the bolt. On the automatic trans car unbolt the starter and install GM KENT MOORE J45059 tool to torque bolt. I have no idea what this means or what this tool is, is this something I can rent, will it be self explanatory? This seems optional to installing the OEM bolt if so is there a benefit to using the ARP bolt?

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10-11-2010, 12:04 AM	#3
bigsquirrel My car runs on acorns.... Drives: 2010 SS RS Inferno Orange Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,351 View My Garage	Thanks, If I use the OEM blot can I avoid using the J tool? The instructions made it sound like this was optional.

10-11-2010, 02:22 PM	#4
bigsquirrel My car runs on acorns.... Drives: 2010 SS RS Inferno Orange Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,351 View My Garage	Got some answers from Whipple, the tool # was wrong it's J42386-A a flywheel holding tool like rtkjadams referenced. That makes much more sense, and it's only $80.

10-11-2010, 10:43 PM	#5
tandtperformance Drives: 2010 Camaro 2011 PACE CAR 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: frederick Posts: 969	use the arp bolt with some red lock tite and a 1/2inch impact thats all you need

10-11-2010, 10:44 PM	#6
GEEo OKCamaros Drives: 4 banger Diesel Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 4,572

10-12-2010, 01:53 PM	#9
rtkjadams Drives: Red Jewel SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: S.Florida Posts: 59	NO WAY!!!!!

10-12-2010, 05:02 PM	#10
bigsquirrel My car runs on acorns.... Drives: 2010 SS RS Inferno Orange Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,351 View My Garage	I ordered the whipple, thanks tim!

10-12-2010, 07:35 PM	#14
bigsquirrel My car runs on acorns.... Drives: 2010 SS RS Inferno Orange Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,351 View My Garage	oh you are right. I'll be doing that by hand then