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BLACK SUNSHINE · 08-31-2011, 03:31 PM

I am having extreme power loss on my 2010 V6. Doesnt miss, but has not balls at all. Took it to a mechanic friend and he hooked it up to the standard, he got a Cam Timing Error. He said that this V6 engine is notorious for oil issues that affect this. Essentially he explained that if the oil gets long in the tooth it will throw the timing off. He said essentially the timing is retarded and there is a severe power loss. So I changed the oil and no change. Anyone know of any issues out there like this or what I can do?
Thanks

wreeseelkins · 08-31-2011, 03:43 PM

there is a bulliten for an exhaust cam position sensor for the v6. take it to the dealer and ask

f5journal · 09-01-2011, 07:57 AM

There is a similar issue on the V6 engines for Traverse type vehicles. It is all over the net. Look up the CEL code. I believe it is p0007 or p0011

f5journal · 09-01-2011, 07:58 AM

The issue shows up around 25-35K miles

firestone_ss · 09-01-2011, 01:17 PM

we were just in a gm class about these engines,i would suggest take it in to your dealer for poss warr.issue.i think we counted 8-10 different sensors and solenoids that are actively controlling timing on these engines and there are common problems with them right down to the exciter ring on the crank slipping so just take it in

BLACK SUNSHINE · 09-01-2011, 03:15 PM

Thanks all, will do. BTW the car has 38K on it so it sounds about right.

BLACK SUNSHINE · 09-15-2011, 08:26 AM

So how does a person go about figuring out what is causing this issue? I am less than thrilled about taking it in right out of the gate and was wondering if there were some tests I can perform myself to see what is going on.

Russell James · 09-15-2011, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACK SUNSHINE

So how does a person go about figuring out what is causing this issue? I am less than thrilled about taking it in right out of the gate and was wondering if there were some tests I can perform myself to see what is going on.

That's what technicians are for. Without the training, tools, service manual, and parts dept, I doubt you're going to do much DIY with a cam timing error.

BLACK SUNSHINE · 11-10-2011, 02:26 PM

BTW here is the scoop on what happened:
I know this is an older thread but figured I would post for prosperity's sake: Just had my car into the dealer for loss of power and an engine light. Guess what? Streched timing chain and I have 42K miles on it. Talked to the guy at Chevy and he said they have been seeing this in a lot of other models but not the Camaro. This is the first one they saw it in. He said there is a stronger timing chain that they are going to put in. All covered under the powertrain warranty.... THANK GOD!!!!

TJ91 · 11-14-2011, 12:29 AM

funny you posted back in this. I did a hard pull today and all of a sudden my car felt like a SLUG! After some time it seemed to gain some power back. Bringing it to the dealer tomorrow. The rpm tach goes up smooth but comes down notchy now! But it does this even when it starts up and does that first full swipe so im hoping its just the guages.

BLACK SUNSHINE · 11-14-2011, 10:11 AM

The car is running like a Raped Ape!!! I swear to God the power that is there now is amazing. I dont think it ever had that kind of power before. Maybe there was an issue present from day 1??? Dont know, but I know that this baby is cooking!!! Good luck with yours. The guys over at Christianson Chevy in Highland IN were awesome. They got the car in and out in 2 days. Wonderful service.

garcmol · 11-14-2011, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACK SUNSHINE

BTW here is the scoop on what happened:
I know this is an older thread but figured I would post for prosperity's sake: Just had my car into the dealer for loss of power and an engine light. Guess what? Streched timing chain and I have 42K miles on it. Talked to the guy at Chevy and he said they have been seeing this in a lot of other models but not the Camaro. This is the first one they saw it in. He said there is a stronger timing chain that they are going to put in. All covered under the powertrain warranty.... THANK GOD!!!!

Is there a way you could scan the work ticket and post it? I, and others, would benefit from it if something like this happens to us. It would give us the "Customer states......" and their diagnosis, parts and fix. That would be great info!

Did they tell you what code you threw? And don't we have more that one timing chain? Did they replace them all?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACK SUNSHINE

The car is running like a Raped Ape!!! I swear to God the power that is there now is amazing. I dont think it ever had that kind of power before. Maybe there was an issue present from day 1??? Dont know, but I know that this baby is cooking!!! Good luck with yours. The guys over at Christianson Chevy in Highland IN were awesome. They got the car in and out in 2 days. Wonderful service.

Glad they got you fixed up.

TJ91 · 11-14-2011, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACK SUNSHINE

The car is running like a Raped Ape!!! I swear to God the power that is there now is amazing. I dont think it ever had that kind of power before. Maybe there was an issue present from day 1??? Dont know, but I know that this baby is cooking!!! Good luck with yours. The guys over at Christianson Chevy in Highland IN were awesome. They got the car in and out in 2 days. Wonderful service.

oh wow that sounds awesome!
I never got a CEL though

BLACK SUNSHINE · 11-14-2011, 12:40 PM

I think the car was having a problem long before the CEL becuase it didnt have this much power before. Im not sure if GM would do anything without a CEL though. I never had an RPM issues with my problem. Just loss of power

08-31-2011, 03:31 PM	#1
BLACK SUNSHINE Drives: 68 Firebird Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 176	V6 Cam Timing Error I am having extreme power loss on my 2010 V6. Doesnt miss, but has not balls at all. Took it to a mechanic friend and he hooked it up to the standard, he got a Cam Timing Error. He said that this V6 engine is notorious for oil issues that affect this. Essentially he explained that if the oil gets long in the tooth it will throw the timing off. He said essentially the timing is retarded and there is a severe power loss. So I changed the oil and no change. Anyone know of any issues out there like this or what I can do? Thanks __________________ __________________ Victory Red, 2LT, RS, Auto, Polished 1100 = Preliminary Order: 2/26/09 ..............................3800 = Produced: 6/29 VIN: 2G1FC1EV9A9122433 2000 = Accepted By GM: 5/19/09 ...............................4000 = Available to Ship: 7/1/09 3000 = Accepted By Production Control: ? ..........4200 = Shipped: 7/03/09 3300 = Scheduled For Production:6/6/09.......................5000 = Delivered To Dealer: 7/14/09 3400 = Broadcast:6/16/09............................... 6000 = Delivered To Customer: 7/15/09

09-01-2011, 03:15 PM	#6
BLACK SUNSHINE Drives: 68 Firebird Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 176	Thanks all, will do. BTW the car has 38K on it so it sounds about right. __________________ __________________ Victory Red, 2LT, RS, Auto, Polished 1100 = Preliminary Order: 2/26/09 ..............................3800 = Produced: 6/29 VIN: 2G1FC1EV9A9122433 2000 = Accepted By GM: 5/19/09 ...............................4000 = Available to Ship: 7/1/09 3000 = Accepted By Production Control: ? ..........4200 = Shipped: 7/03/09 3300 = Scheduled For Production:6/6/09.......................5000 = Delivered To Dealer: 7/14/09 3400 = Broadcast:6/16/09............................... 6000 = Delivered To Customer: 7/15/09

09-15-2011, 08:26 AM	#7
BLACK SUNSHINE Drives: 68 Firebird Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 176	So how does a person go about figuring out what is causing this issue? I am less than thrilled about taking it in right out of the gate and was wondering if there were some tests I can perform myself to see what is going on. __________________ __________________ Victory Red, 2LT, RS, Auto, Polished 1100 = Preliminary Order: 2/26/09 ..............................3800 = Produced: 6/29 VIN: 2G1FC1EV9A9122433 2000 = Accepted By GM: 5/19/09 ...............................4000 = Available to Ship: 7/1/09 3000 = Accepted By Production Control: ? ..........4200 = Shipped: 7/03/09 3300 = Scheduled For Production:6/6/09.......................5000 = Delivered To Dealer: 7/14/09 3400 = Broadcast:6/16/09............................... 6000 = Delivered To Customer: 7/15/09

11-10-2011, 02:26 PM	#9
BLACK SUNSHINE Drives: 68 Firebird Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 176	BTW here is the scoop on what happened: I know this is an older thread but figured I would post for prosperity's sake: Just had my car into the dealer for loss of power and an engine light. Guess what? Streched timing chain and I have 42K miles on it. Talked to the guy at Chevy and he said they have been seeing this in a lot of other models but not the Camaro. This is the first one they saw it in. He said there is a stronger timing chain that they are going to put in. All covered under the powertrain warranty.... THANK GOD!!!! __________________ __________________ Victory Red, 2LT, RS, Auto, Polished 1100 = Preliminary Order: 2/26/09 ..............................3800 = Produced: 6/29 VIN: 2G1FC1EV9A9122433 2000 = Accepted By GM: 5/19/09 ...............................4000 = Available to Ship: 7/1/09 3000 = Accepted By Production Control: ? ..........4200 = Shipped: 7/03/09 3300 = Scheduled For Production:6/6/09.......................5000 = Delivered To Dealer: 7/14/09 3400 = Broadcast:6/16/09............................... 6000 = Delivered To Customer: 7/15/09

11-14-2011, 12:29 AM	#10
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,033	funny you posted back in this. I did a hard pull today and all of a sudden my car felt like a SLUG! After some time it seemed to gain some power back. Bringing it to the dealer tomorrow. The rpm tach goes up smooth but comes down notchy now! But it does this even when it starts up and does that first full swipe so im hoping its just the guages. __________________ CAMARO Consult your doctor before taking Camaro Side effects include Sudden increase in Heart Rate, Insomnia and occasional hallucinations If you experience Permagrin exceeding 4 hours after taking Camaro, seek immediate Camaro5 Help CAMARO Bringing excitment back into the Garage

08-31-2011, 03:43 PM	#2
wreeseelkins Reese's Drives: 2011 camaro 1LT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: tallahassee,florida Posts: 472	there is a bulliten for an exhaust cam position sensor for the v6. take it to the dealer and ask

09-01-2011, 07:57 AM	#3
f5journal Senior Camaro Fanatic Drives: 2011 SS/RS manual - White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: aiken, sc Posts: 1,980	There is a similar issue on the V6 engines for Traverse type vehicles. It is all over the net. Look up the CEL code. I believe it is p0007 or p0011

09-01-2011, 07:58 AM	#4
f5journal Senior Camaro Fanatic Drives: 2011 SS/RS manual - White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: aiken, sc Posts: 1,980	The issue shows up around 25-35K miles

09-01-2011, 01:17 PM	#5
firestone_ss Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 779	we were just in a gm class about these engines,i would suggest take it in to your dealer for poss warr.issue.i think we counted 8-10 different sensors and solenoids that are actively controlling timing on these engines and there are common problems with them right down to the exciter ring on the crank slipping so just take it in

11-14-2011, 10:11 AM	#11
BLACK SUNSHINE Drives: 68 Firebird Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 176	The car is running like a Raped Ape!!! I swear to God the power that is there now is amazing. I dont think it ever had that kind of power before. Maybe there was an issue present from day 1??? Dont know, but I know that this baby is cooking!!! Good luck with yours. The guys over at Christianson Chevy in Highland IN were awesome. They got the car in and out in 2 days. Wonderful service. __________________ __________________ Victory Red, 2LT, RS, Auto, Polished 1100 = Preliminary Order: 2/26/09 ..............................3800 = Produced: 6/29 VIN: 2G1FC1EV9A9122433 2000 = Accepted By GM: 5/19/09 ...............................4000 = Available to Ship: 7/1/09 3000 = Accepted By Production Control: ? ..........4200 = Shipped: 7/03/09 3300 = Scheduled For Production:6/6/09.......................5000 = Delivered To Dealer: 7/14/09 3400 = Broadcast:6/16/09............................... 6000 = Delivered To Customer: 7/15/09

11-14-2011, 12:40 PM	#14
BLACK SUNSHINE Drives: 68 Firebird Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 176	I think the car was having a problem long before the CEL becuase it didnt have this much power before. Im not sure if GM would do anything without a CEL though. I never had an RPM issues with my problem. Just loss of power __________________ __________________ Victory Red, 2LT, RS, Auto, Polished 1100 = Preliminary Order: 2/26/09 ..............................3800 = Produced: 6/29 VIN: 2G1FC1EV9A9122433 2000 = Accepted By GM: 5/19/09 ...............................4000 = Available to Ship: 7/1/09 3000 = Accepted By Production Control: ? ..........4200 = Shipped: 7/03/09 3300 = Scheduled For Production:6/6/09.......................5000 = Delivered To Dealer: 7/14/09 3400 = Broadcast:6/16/09............................... 6000 = Delivered To Customer: 7/15/09

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